I have a crazy idea. Joe Biden in 2020.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

It worked in California. Californians replaced a celebrity executive with a proven veteran and the results have been positive. Californians wanted steady progressive and pragmatic leadership after the Schwarzenegger fiasco and Jerry Brown provided it.

After four years of Trump a steady pragmatist and progressive like Ole Joe Biden who knows how things work will look pretty good.

I know it's early to discuss 2020 but the parallels dawned on me.

[doc03]

1. Don't we have anyone that isn't on SS and Medicare? nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. He pretty vibrant...

I have to see how he holds up over the next four years. He will be 78.

On the other hand Konrad Adenauer governed post WW ll Germany at 87.

[doc03]

5. I like Biden, Hillary and Bernie but surely there must be someone

younger. That's the problem we thought it was Hillary's turn and we have nobody on the bench other than
a handful of elderly people. I am 69 myself and I know I can't function either mentally or physically anyway
near what I could ten years ago I think there is a retirement age for a reason.

[ATL Ebony]

41. Like Biden too -- he maybe on SS or Medicare but not out to pasture yet and has many good years left

With a VP as good to him as he was to BHO -- it would be a winning team. He's not someone you'd have to guess where his heart is -- he'll tell you, make no mistake about it. He could keep the seat warm while some of the 2018 inductees get their political legs and footing.

[BainsBane]

3. Jesus

Isn't there anyone whose age will be below the average life expectancy that people like?

I favored Biden in 2008. That was 12 years before 2020.

[monmouth4]

4. Oh no...just plain no...n/t

[StevieM]

6. I don't think that age should be held for or against a candidate.

So I have no problem with Biden or Sanders running.

The two candidates who I like right now are Elizabeth Warren and Jay Inslee. Warren will be 71 in 2020. Inslee will be 69.

[Phoenix61]

7. Not to be unkind but

That is a crazy idea. He is, simply, too old. He's great but, we can do better.

[Voltaire2]

8. He is a terrible candidate.

[mainstreetonce]

9. Go Joe!

Yes

[NurseJackie]

10. I adore Joe ...

... but, no.

[L. Coyote]

11. First, let's see who will be President next year.

Trump's got too many problems to last much longer, and he's getting more demented by the day.

[Starry Messenger]

12. Ironically, Anita Hill is speaking just right this minute at the Kapor Center.

I like Joe, but there is deep deep baggage there.

[colsohlibgal]

13. Just No

78 is just too old and he would be 82 after 4 years.

We have more than a few younger and more energetic potential candidates.

[trueblue2007]

14. I have a brilliant idea. Joe Biden in 2020.

and DemocratSinceBirth you are BRILIANT ALSO. Joe isn't a crazy idea.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

15. I wish I could put him in Doc Brown's DeLorean and make him ten years younger

Jerry Brown is a vibrant 79 but he's retiring.

[emulatorloo]

18. Check out the latest 2020 poll from ppp. Joe 54% Trump 40%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2017/04/democrats-have-big-enthusiasm-edge-for-2018.html

-We tested some early 2020 match ups for President and Trump has deficits of 14 points against Joe Biden (54/40), 9 points against Bernie Sanders (50/41), and 4 points against Elizabeth Warren (46/42). Trump does at least manage ties with Al Franken at 43% and Cory Booker at 42%, although previous polling we've done has found neither of them is universally well known nationally.

[egduj]

16. Maybe a crazy idea for 2020, but would've been a great idea for 2016

[Golden Raisin]

17. We need change and a more youthful candidate.

And I say this as a senior citizen. Plus, if Trump gets us into a war with N. Korea, or Iran, or fill-in-the-blank I could easily see him suspending elections.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

20. Elections won't get suspended.

That idea was bruited around quite seriously in 2003/04. Didn't happen then. Has never happened. Won't happen.

There will be an election in 2020.

[PoindexterOglethorpe]

19. Oh, jeez. Not this again.

Yes, he's too old. Quite frankly, he was too old last year. So was Hillary, and so was Bernie. Not to mention the man who currently resides in the White House.

If we keep on electing older and older people to the job, pretty soon we'll run out of octogenarians.

No one currently over the age of 50 ought to be seriously considered for 2020. That does leave out a lot of otherwise appealing candidates, like Sherrod Brown, Al Franken, Elizabeth Warren.

We absolutely need to be looking toward the future, not the past. Surely some smart Millennial (born after 1980) is out there waiting to step up.

[Jim Lane]

46. Age is an issue but a cut-line at 50 years is too low

Yes, Obama, Bill Clinton, and JFK were in their 40s when inaugurated, but Carter and LBJ were in their 50s, and Truman was 64 when elected in 1948. (Among recent Republicans, Shrub was 54; his father and Reagan were both in their 60s.)

Another issue is that the Democrats' current national leadership pool does happen to skew older than in past years. For example, Al Franken is considered a fresh face, but he'll turn 69 during the 2020 campaign. Kirsten Gillibrand has attracted a few mentions for 2020, but even she (born 1966) would be too old by your criterion.

There's some enthusiasm on the left for Tulsi Gabbard, who'll be 39 by next Inauguration Day. Other than her, I don't recall anyone else under 50 even getting much mention. Another JFK, Clinton, or Obama in his or her 40s may emerge as a serious contender, but I wouldn't count on it.

[IronLionZion]

21. Make America Like California Again

We could exhume Ronald Reagan's dead corpse and run him for president

We'd probably win

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. America could do a lot worse than being like the Golden State.

[Dolly123Jimmy]

22. Really????

[luvMIdog]

23. I love Joe Biden , but no we have to win next time

No Joe, no Hillary, no Bernie. We MUST have someone younger. Like it or not most people do take age as a consideration when voting. We have to have a candidate that can win, so we need a candidate that doesn't start out with health /age factors being held against them

[Maynar]

25. How about young Kennedy?

He's got the fire in the belly.

[luvMIdog]

27. I haven't really considered him & don't know that much about him, but yes someone young like that

[Heartstrings]

36. Oh I agree...passionate!

[Warren DeMontague]

40. All I know about that guy is, his last name and he's got red hair

that's the best we can do in terms of leadership at this point?

[Maynar]

50. He might not be ready quite yet

but to me he looks promising. If he gets out some really populist policy, this could get interesting quickly.

[Warren DeMontague]

53. I don't go in for the idea that there's some magic talisman to win elections, like a last name.

Our last two Democratic Presidents both came out of nowhere.

[Maynar]

54. I didn't suggest his name was a talisman (altho I can see why some might agree)

I saw a couple of speeches and thought "he's got promise." My opinion was based on his performances, not his pedigree.

That's all.

[Warren DeMontague]

55. Fair enough.

I will keep an open mind.

Although I'd also really like to see some leaders from the West Coast take the reins. I feel like the beltway forgets we exist and gives our issues short shrift.

[Maynar]

57. Gotta agree with that.

I'm West Coast too.

[Brainstormy]

24. Love Joe, but he's too old. n/t

[SaschaHM]

26. I'd vote for VP Biden, but I'll be rolling my eyes as he gets a pass for most of the things that...

Hillary was bashed for. I'd prefer someone else though and the only 2016 contender I'd want to see is O'Malley.

[JHan]

29. yeah.. well.. you know how it goes.

I'm also with you on O'Malley.

[democratisphere]

28. Time to get real.

[Binkie The Clown]

30. What? And perpetuate the ruling dynasty?

We need to branch out and stop being so inbred with our candidate choices.
We also need fresh blood and new ideas, and people who will inspire the younger voters.

[Chemisse]

31. I love Joe, but let's get some fresh blood.

We need to look toward the future, not keep trying to revive the past.

[PdxSean]

32. We can do better.

Our mission if we choose to accept it:

Take Obama's smarts and integrity, add the fire in the belly of Bernie Sanders, then top it off with the political acumen and courage of Hillary Clinton. Dunno who that is, but s/he's out there. Actually, I suspect there are several Democrats who would fit the bill, but we've grown too lazy to look outside the usual boxes.

[jberryhill]

33. No

I am a native Delawarean. I have known Joe Biden for most of my life. Joe Biden was one of my law professors. I got the highest grade in his class. Joe has fought a lot of good fights, and I have supported him in every presidential primary since Dukakis.

Joe has had a great political career. It is over.

[ZX86]

34. I have a crazy idea.

How bout the most popular politician in the nation?

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

35. I have a better idea...

Bernie & Elizabeth 2020!!!

[Doreen]

37. Or Elizabeth & Bernie.

Either way would be great. Elizabeth is also younger if everyone is freaking out about age.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

48. I like it too tho I was thinkin of a 16-year run, Bernie for 8 years, then Elizabeth for anotha 8

[Doreen]

49. I like that also. With those two in office for that long I think

they could actually repair the damage that this country is going to suffer.

[MrScorpio]

38. I love JOE! He's like everyone's favorite uncle...

And as a favorite uncle myself, I can appreciate the appeal...

But no.

We need a bring up a new generation of strong Democratic Party leadership for the future.

Let Joe ride off into the sunset and enjoy his life.

[Warren DeMontague]

39. Newsom. Inslee. Warren. Buttigeig. Franken. Duckworth. Gillibrand. Booker. Hickenlooper.

...someone whose name we aren't even familiar with yet, like "Obama" circa 2003...

etc..





Point is, for the love of God, lets expand our bench, please. In terms of age, in terms of geography, etc.

And no more "marquee" candidates sucking all the air out of the room and turning what should be a vigorous primary contest full of debates about direction of the party, into a "it's your turn, now" coronation.

[NCTraveler]

45. Make it so, number one.

[opiate69]

58. !!!!

You.... you...


YOU SAID THE C-WORD!!!

[NCTraveler]

43. I think it's a good time to talk options...

And have great respect for Biden. I will say our field would have to be pretty weak for me to vote for him in a primary.

[obamanut2012]

44. No, absolutely no

And, I like Biden. But no.

[Demsrule86]

47. I love Joe Biden.

He would make a wonderful president...met him several times and once called his office, and he answered his own phone; He actually discussed the issues with me....amazing....great person.

[Initech]

51. I love Biden, but...

After the way the GOP has treated us over the last 8 years, if we want to beat Trump, we can't have anything tying us to Clinton or Obama. It really sucks but we need to beat these fucking assholes at their own game. And I think that's the way to do it.

[CK_John]

52. Why not Jerry Brown????

[Jersey Devil]

56. How about Methuselah in 2044?

Is everyone under the age of 70 now disqualified from running for President?

[GulfCoast66]

59. You are correct.