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musette_sf

(10,202 posts)
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 03:47 PM Apr 2017

Why are Sanders AND ELLISON speaking at a rally for a gestational slavery advocate????

Inexcusable for Sen Sanders to endorse gestational slavery advocate Heath Mello, but then again, Sen Sanders is already known for deprioritizing women's rights.

But DNC Deputy Chair Ellison? REALLY? What is going on here? When did our hard-won rights become a bargaining chip for the Democratic Party? It's sadly becoming more and more apparent to me that the #1 problem with Sec'y Clinton's candidacy was that SHE IS A WOMAN. And I now believe that I will not see in my lifetime a woman in the White House who is an uncompromising advocate and champion of women's rights.



https://rewire.news/article/2017/04/20/why-is-dnc-embracing-aggressively-anti-choice-democrat/

"The basic freedom of the world is woman's freedom. A free race cannot be born of slave mothers. A woman enchained cannot choose but give a measure of bondage to her sons and daughters. No woman can call herself free who does not own and control her body. No woman can call herself free until she can choose consciously whether she will or will not be a mother." - Margaret Sanger, 1919

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Why are Sanders AND ELLISON speaking at a rally for a gestational slavery advocate???? (Original Post) musette_sf Apr 2017 OP
It's bullshit. JTFrog Apr 2017 #1
Definitely that. Cha Apr 2017 #53
I think people should learn more about Sanger obliviously Apr 2017 #2
Yeah they might be kinda shocked to find out what she advocated back in the day. nt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #3
"they might be kinda shocked to find out what she advocated" musette_sf Apr 2017 #8
She was a proponent of eugenics. Many on the left were in those days.nt m-lekktor Apr 2017 #45
"Many on the left were in those days" musette_sf Apr 2017 #46
Yeah, they should, especially how she has been demonized musette_sf Apr 2017 #7
Demonizing Margaret Sanger is a common Anti Choice tactic. Vesper Apr 2017 #11
+ 1 xoxo musette_sf Apr 2017 #13
Yes, I see it on Twitter a lot-from the RW!! riversedge Apr 2017 #26
It is part of their script, recognizable from the rote repetition. Vesper Apr 2017 #41
Don't even try to smear the messenger.. it's not working Cha Apr 2017 #17
You do realize you are carrying anti choicers water with this dreck, right? obamanut2012 Apr 2017 #33
I think people should learn more about how that's right wing bullshit n/t kcr Apr 2017 #34
Is the calulation to increase the number of Democrats loyalsister Apr 2017 #4
Tom Perez chairman of the DNC is speaking there too Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #5
I just read in Politico that he will not be. Vesper Apr 2017 #14
DNC Chairman Tom Perez was originally scheduled to appear at the Omaha Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #15
Seems like he chose to support the Democrat D mocrats prefer and not Vesper Apr 2017 #19
There were over a dozen different D groups that showed up to support Heath Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #20
There even more who are explaining why he's not trustworthy on basic issues. Vesper Apr 2017 #21
Did you find who these dozen groups were? Vesper Apr 2017 #42
3 hours and 6,000 D's in the house Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #43
Where are the women? Where is Planned Parenthood and NARAL? Vesper Apr 2017 #47
So you didn't view the video but know there are no women in it? Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #48
"Kaine says he changed and won't pass anti-abortion laws anymore, just like Mello." musette_sf Apr 2017 #51
Bold Nebraska has been fighting Keystone XL since day one, guess who they endorsed for mayor Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #49
Uh, his letter in support of the Keystone Pipeline? Guess who signed it? Vesper Apr 2017 #52
+ 1 xoxo musette_sf Apr 2017 #50
Uh oh--is Ellison under the bus too now? panader0 Apr 2017 #6
Yes because ignoring women's concerns of their health care Chevy Apr 2017 #10
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walkers appearance in Omaha to campaign for Stothert (Mello's opponent) Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #9
Mello vs. Stothert OilemFirchen Apr 2017 #12
Scott Walker and Bernie Sanders making Omaha appearances for mayor's race Omaha Steve Apr 2017 #44
He was endorsed in 2010 by anti-choice group Nebraska Right to Life. Cha Apr 2017 #16
You're welcome musette_sf Apr 2017 #23
Kick for your important thread, musette Cha Apr 2017 #24
BS calls Mello a "progressive" who is anti-choice and he didn't know Cha Apr 2017 #18
That is exactly the problem Cha. While I can understand support for Mello still_one Apr 2017 #27
That's how I feel about it, too.. the Diarist @ Dkos Cha Apr 2017 #28
The devil is in the details as always. nikibatts Apr 2017 #29
Well that doesn't make much sense! What the hell is going on? Something's not right... NurseJackie Apr 2017 #30
I know..I've been gathering clues.. BS said "..he isn't prepared to back Democrats just because of Cha Apr 2017 #32
So I guess a mayoral election is now more important than a Congressional election. Weird. George II Apr 2017 #37
Not for the country and the Planet it's not.. but, Cha Apr 2017 #39
I am not a progressive! GulfCoast66 Apr 2017 #22
Excellent post. Thank you! NurseJackie Apr 2017 #31
Time to end the roadshow. Expecting Rain Apr 2017 #25
K&R mcar Apr 2017 #35
Is he the Democrat in the race? alarimer Apr 2017 #36
I'm glad it's becoming transparent how willing they are to maintain the status quo. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #38
K and r. nt cwydro Apr 2017 #40

musette_sf

(10,202 posts)
8. "they might be kinda shocked to find out what she advocated"
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 05:10 PM
Apr 2017

How could any genuine Democrat be "shocked" about what Margaret Sanger advocated?

"We hold that children should be
Conceived in love;
Born of the mother's conscious desire;
And only begotten under conditions which render possible the heritage of health.
Therefore we hold that every woman must possess the power and freedom to prevent conception except when these conditions can be satisfied."

These are the principles on which the American Birth Control League (predecessor to Planned Parenthood) was founded.

musette_sf

(10,202 posts)
46. "Many on the left were in those days"
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 12:22 PM
Apr 2017

hmmmmm

...like those prominent leftists Winston Churchill, Alexander Graham Bell, Helen Keller, Luther Burbank, and Theodore Roosevelt?

The fact is that the study of Eugenics was, at the turn of the twentieth century, an integral part of the biological sciences curriculum at every major university and college in the US.

And the party line that you seem to be attempting to catapult here, in your two comments on this thread, is that of the gestational slavery advocates, and their maliciously false propaganda concocted to demonize the reproductive justice movement. DU supports the Democratic Party platform, and that includes the the reproductive justice plank.

Democrats are committed to protecting and advancing reproductive health, rights, and justice. We believe unequivocally, like the majority of Americans, that every woman should have access to quality reproductive health care services, including safe and legal abortion — regardless of where she lives, how much money she makes, or how she is insured.

Margaret Sanger was one of the greatest humanitarians of the twentieth century, who worked tirelessly (at great personal risk to her own safety and freedom) to help women of ALL races, colors and creeds live healthier lives and have healthier and happier families.

musette_sf

(10,202 posts)
7. Yeah, they should, especially how she has been demonized
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 05:06 PM
Apr 2017

by the radical theocratic Christo-fascists, who intentionally and maliciously spread lying hate speech propaganda about one of the most important humanitarians of the 20th century, and who fail to acknowledge that Margaret Sanger was greatly admired and respected by each and every African-American leader of her day, up to and including Dr Martin Luther King Jr.

"There is a striking kinship between our movement and Margaret Sanger's early efforts. She, like we, saw the horrifying conditions of ghetto life. Like we, she knew that all of society is poisoned by cancerous slums. Like we, she was a direct actionist - a nonviolent resister. She was willing to accept scorn and abuse until the truth she saw was revealed to the millions. At the turn of the century she went into the slums and set up a birth control clinic, and for this deed she went to jail because she was violating an unjust law. Yet the years have justified her actions. She launched a movement which is obeying a higher law to preserve human life under humane conditions. Margaret Sanger had to commit what was then called a crime in order to enrich humanity, and today we honor her courage and vision; for without them there would have been no beginning. Our sure beginning in the struggle for equality by nonviolent direct action may not have been so resolute without the tradition established by Margaret Sanger and people like her." - Dr Martin Luther King Jr., 1966

http://www.thekingcenter.org/archive/document/family-planning-special-and-urgent-concern

https://www.nyu.edu/projects/sanger/articles/demonization_of_ms.php

 

Vesper

(229 posts)
11. Demonizing Margaret Sanger is a common Anti Choice tactic.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 05:32 PM
Apr 2017

It is on their list, after calling everyone a baby killer. It would be nice if people did learn about her and what she actually did.

 

Vesper

(229 posts)
41. It is part of their script, recognizable from the rote repetition.
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 03:35 AM
Apr 2017

Every troll that chimes in on every single bit of news about abortion or Planned Parenthood repeats it. Or pastes it.

I think some here accidentally outed themselves. It's like a knee jerk thing with them.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
4. Is the calulation to increase the number of Democrats
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 04:47 PM
Apr 2017

by allowing for a minority with views that are contrary to most of us? In MO we have more anti-choice Democrats than I would hope, but they wouldn't have their seats otherwise. It feels like a disgusting compromise, but they may be thinking it's worth it to boost our numbers and be able to count on their votes on other issues.
The Joe Manchin's of the party deserve our ire, but credit when due.

Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
15. DNC Chairman Tom Perez was originally scheduled to appear at the Omaha
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 11:39 PM
Apr 2017

http://www.omaha.com/news/politics/sanders-stumps-for-mello-in-omaha-stirs-national-debate-about/article_284457a1-a7d1-5d79-ae2e-9c8bc68ea31e.html

Democratic National Committee Chairman Tom Perez was originally scheduled to appear at the Omaha rally, but Ellison appeared instead.


Nebraska Democratic Party Chairwoman Jane Kleeb said that the switch was the result of a scheduling issue and that Perez is appearing today in Georgia with congressional candidate Jon Ossoff.
 

Vesper

(229 posts)
19. Seems like he chose to support the Democrat D mocrats prefer and not
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 12:05 AM
Apr 2017

the anti choice guy that Dems do not like.

 

Vesper

(229 posts)
21. There even more who are explaining why he's not trustworthy on basic issues.
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 12:32 AM
Apr 2017

Planned parenthood for one. Which groups make up this dirty dozen that approve of a man who sponsored a 20 week ban etc.

NARAL and PP can be ignored? Why? How is that part of a progressive or Democratic agenda that we are all fighting for and which Bernie insisted we do?

Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
43. 3 hours and 6,000 D's in the house
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 08:40 AM
Apr 2017

Three hour (quality goes in and out) video starts with the Water Protectors of Standing Rock (Keystone XL) doing native dances



Nebraska AFL-CIO, South Omaha Latino coalition including mariachi band, State D Party, Omaha Firefighters, Douglas County Democrats, an East African group, Omaha Teacher's association, Lancastor County Dems, Sarpy County Dems, D candidates in upcoming May elections, and more.

A true rainbow coalition. Tune in and make your own full list. I'm headed to a March for Science today. Enjoy it.

A last-minute addition to the rally was Sofia Jawed-Wessel, an assistant professor of public health and health behavior at UNO, who spoke about her support of Planned Parenthood.

“Rally behind Heath Mello and support the candidate who supports Planned Parenthood,” she said.
 

Vesper

(229 posts)
47. Where are the women? Where is Planned Parenthood and NARAL?
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 01:27 PM
Apr 2017

This is not a rainbow coalition, it's not even a Democratic one. I am not going to tune into 3 hours of someone supporting a man who is NOT pro choice or progressive.

I don't like these pointless rallies, I prefer policies and platforms and the record of the candidate.

It seems like they found some woman to say some words who is not knowledgeable about this man, who holds no degrees in Public Health (it's a deep field that has its own graduate schools, its own degrees and it's own publications. This woman is a sex researcher focusing on sex education for couples after pregnancy, and their pleasure. She sounds like a sex therapist on her bio at UNO. She is not associated in anyway with Planned Parenthood. She does not know that this man has himself sponsored legislation that progressive groups, physicians, public health officials, etc. find dangerous and reprehensible. Is she the best they could do? That's not saying much. Not a single ObGyn familiar with what a 20 week ban would wreak upon women was willing to vouch for him?

What were the water protectors doing there for a man who was FOR the Keystone Pipeline???!!?
http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska-senators-sign-letter-in-support-of-keystone-xl-pipeline/article_9b0b2735-b218-5b2b-9909-c487ca621e64.html

This is not passing the smell test, and erasing women, health groups and the community protecting choice is not a true Rainbow coalition, it's pretty monochrome, not even representative of even a partial Democratic coalition.

Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
48. So you didn't view the video but know there are no women in it?
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 10:53 PM
Apr 2017

This is not passing the smell test!!!

Let me educate you about former candidate for Vice President Kaine! He had an anti-abortion past from 2005-2013 with quotes and links below.

Kaine says he changed and won't pass anti-abortion laws anymore, just like Mello.

Mellow however during the time you are mad at him about passed an amendment to make the procedure less invasive.

From Nebraska's largest new gathering agency: http://www.omaha.com/news/politics/bernie-sanders-stumps-for-heath-mello-in-omaha-stirs-national/article_284457a1-a7d1-5d79-ae2e-9c8bc68ea31e.html

In 2009, the version of Legislative Bill 675 that became law, on a 40-5 vote, was viewed as a compromise measure. As first introduced, the bill would have required a woman to look at the ultrasound image.

Mello’s campaign said he signed on to the bill to support the compromise version.

Mello, who is Catholic, said he remains pro-life.

“While my faith guides my personal views, as mayor I would never do anything to restrict access to reproductive health care,” Mello said in the statement.


40 to 5. The more restrictive bill would have passed with far fewer votes even without the amendment because Gov. Heineman was anti-abortion. Only need 33 to override a veto in the unicameral

Kaine: on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” an exchange emblematic of the challenge he faces in talking about a politically volatile topic where his religion conflicts with his policy stance. “I’m kind of a traditional Catholic. Personally, I’m opposed to abortion, and personally, I’m opposed to the death penalty.”

Major abortion rights groups and some of their allies on Capitol Hill are tip-toeing around the prospect of a Clinton-Kaine ticket.

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/tim-kaine-abortion-predicament-225053

By DARREN SAMUELSOHN and DANIEL STRAUSS 07/04/16 07:23 AM EDT

But he hasn’t always advanced policies directly in line with those of abortion rights advocacy groups. He pledged in his 2005 gubernatorial campaign to reduce the number of terminated pregnancies in the state by promoting adoption and abstinence-focused education. That cycle, the state NARAL chapter ripped Kaine’s GOP opponent, Jerry Kilgore, as “an extremely anti-choice candidate” but still withheld its endorsement of Kaine because he “embraces many of the restrictions on a woman’s right to choose.”

In a 2007 NARAL scorecard, Kaine was described as a “mixed-choice” governor and his state got an F grade thanks in part to a number of laws and other policies restricting access to abortions. Two years later, Kaine upset both local and national reproductive rights groups by signing a law that authorized the sale of customized “Choose Life” license plates. Kaine argued he was supporting free speech, but his critics complained that the law would fund pro-life organizations and didn’t square with another very important hat that he was wearing at the time: Obama’s personally picked head of the Democratic National Committee.

Kaine brings many other attributes as a running mate, including a widely respected reputation for bipartisanship, after serving just under four years in the Senate, and his own proven political chops winning three straight statewide races in the critical battleground of Virginia. But the hot button issue of abortion, where he has a much more nuanced stance than many of his fellow Democrats, is the baggage he carries.

Major abortion rights groups and some of their allies on Capitol Hill are tip-toeing around the prospect of a Clinton-Kaine ticket.

DNC chair infuriates abortion backers: http://www.politico.com/story/2009/03/dnc-chair-infuriates-abortion-backers-020686

Tim Kaine, the Virginia governor and President Barack Obama's hand-picked choice as the head of the Democratic National Committee, infuriated abortion-rights groups Monday by signing legislation that gives abortion foes a long-sought victory.

Kaine brushed off intense lobbying by abortion rights supporters in Richmond to sign a bill that allows Virginia motorists to advertise their anti-abortion views by sporting "Choose Life" specialty license plates.

The revenue from the specialty plates would go to crisis-pregnancy centers, which many abortion-rights backers believe proslyetize against abortion and encourage women to keep unwanted children.

If Kaine were merely the governor of the Old Dominion, the move might have been less notable. Kaine—a Catholic who says he is personally opposed to abortion but pledged to leave the right to choose intact—won office in Virginia partly by seeking to reassure social conservatives.

Abortion Rights Group in Va. Skips Gubernatorial Endorsement: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/16/AR2005081601329.html

By Michael D. Shear
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, August 17, 2005

RICHMOND, Aug. 16 -- The Virginia chapter of NARAL Pro-Choice America said Tuesday that it will not endorse any candidate in this fall's governor's race, citing a lack of support for abortion rights among the two leading candidates.

The group endorsed Democrats for lieutenant governor, attorney general and most delegate races but said Democratic Lt. Gov. Timothy M. Kaine failed to earn its backing for governor because of his support for some abortion restrictions.

The group condemned Republican gubernatorial candidate Jerry W. Kilgore as an "extremely anti-choice" candidate, and it charged that he would sign legislation to criminalize abortion and restrict access to contraceptives if given the chance.

"Tim Kaine . . . has said he would not sign such legislation, but he embraces many of the restrictions on a woman's right to choose that are opposed by NARAL," the group's statement said. "We cannot therefore offer any endorsement in this year's race for governor."

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/hillary-clinton-2016-vp-pick-tim-kaine-213997: “Picking Kaine, a centrist, DLC [the now-defunct Democratic Leadership Council] Democrat, who happens to have some scary positions on abortion and the deficit,

Plenty more info on this with Goggle!

Where was your rage when Kaine's name first popped up?? Or was Kaine OK because he was Hillary's pick, but Mello's help from Bernie is bad. Caught in a double standard?

Now if you are so against Mello, we have to wonder how many with that attitude against former pro-lifer Dems stayed home last Nov. in close swing state votes!

OS

musette_sf

(10,202 posts)
51. "Kaine says he changed and won't pass anti-abortion laws anymore, just like Mello."
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 01:12 PM
Apr 2017

That's a factually inaccurate comparison of Kaine to Mello.

Let me quote DUer BainsBane's excellent comparison here:

Mello is completely different from Kaine. Mello has sponsored and voted for anti-choice legislation. Kaine is pro-choice. Now we have people like you here making false equivalencies between personal concerns with abortion to legislation denying a woman's right to choose. That would be like saying I am anti-choice. Bernie has convinced you and others to normalize anti-choice in defense of hm, and that is deeply troubling to me.

The dispute is not just at DU. It's in the DNC as well, which is why Perez issued a statement making clear that being pro-choice was a litmus test for Democrats. Abortion rights advocates made clear they were not going to tolerate the party abrogating defense of their rights. Women are the majority of Democrats, and we will use that power.


Yes, there are others I would have preferred for Sec'y Clinton's VPOTUS pick. But I don't see Kaine as that far off from Biden's stance, for example. Mello is another story entirely, and I deeply resent Sen Sanders' repeated relegation of women, and our inalienable civil, human and Constitutional rights, to the back of the bus. And I am so grateful to see Sec'y Perez take a clear and unambiguous stand for the rights of HALF OF AMERICA.

Women's rights are human rights!


Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
49. Bold Nebraska has been fighting Keystone XL since day one, guess who they endorsed for mayor
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 12:02 AM
Apr 2017





Where do you get your info? Maybe you just don't like the Water Protectors?

Since Bold Nebraska endorsed Mello for mayor you are dead wrong.

Good enough for the people fighting at ground zero here, should be good enough for uninformed outside agitators.

And now you know why Bold Nebraska, Jane Kleeb, and the Water Protectors were there.

OS

VOTE: Bold Endorsements for General Election: http://boldnebraska.org/election2017/

By Linda Anderson

NEWS APRIL 12, 2017
Tagged Elections, Heath Mello, Lincoln, Omaha

We are proud to endorse Heath Mello as a Bold candidate for Mayor of Omaha.

Heath has a demonstrated record of supporting environmental and sustainability issues as a former state senator. He has earned the endorsement of the Nebraska League of Conservation Voters, after also being named the group’s 2016 Conservation Champion.

Heath worked on proposals to improve recycling, support local clean energy initiatives, address water conservation, and create new green jobs. He also worked with his colleagues in the Unicameral to establish the LR455 select committee that produced major policy recommendations to address climate change in Nebraska.

As Omaha’s next Mayor, Heath would continue this collaborative work, and have our city create its own Climate Action Plan to implement our environmental element of the city’s master plan.

In addition, Heath is committed to enhancing and implementing alternative transportation options that improve Omaha’s physical and economic environment, including expanding bike lanes, light rail, and ride sharing.



 

Vesper

(229 posts)
52. Uh, his letter in support of the Keystone Pipeline? Guess who signed it?
Mon Apr 24, 2017, 05:15 AM
Apr 2017

From your hometown newspaper? Is this letter that Mello signed "dead wrong" too?

http://www.omaha.com/news/nebraska-senators-sign-letter-in-support-of-keystone-xl-pipeline/article_9b0b2735-b218-5b2b-9909-c487ca621e64.html

How about the actual letter that bears his signature?

http://content.omaha.com/media/maps/pd/keystoneletter.pdf

Looks like Bold Nebraska made a big boo boo with their choice, just like someone else did.

Seems like those guys on the ground have some willful ignorance or are just sloppy on doing their homework, they just endorsed a guy who is an inside agitator and not at all progressive, not even on Keystone which was so sacred not so long ago.

I do notice that Bold Nebraska doesn't even mention Keystone though, so what's "good enough" for the hometown agitators that are undermining the actual principles progressives are fighting for? Insulting us while being dead wrong on the facts is a really bad look.

musette_sf

(10,202 posts)
50. + 1 xoxo
Sun Apr 23, 2017, 01:01 PM
Apr 2017




NOT going to stand for being relegated to the back of the bus by so-called "progressives".

Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
9. Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walkers appearance in Omaha to campaign for Stothert (Mello's opponent)
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 05:10 PM
Apr 2017

http://www.omaha.com/news/politics/details-set-for-wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-s-appearance-in/article_be2f262e-7b5b-582e-a65b-245ac0366b34.html#tncms-source=article-nav-next

By Roseann Moring / World-Herald staff writer Apr 20, 2017 Updated 5 min ago
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker
JOHN HART/WISCONSIN STATE JOURNAL VIA THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker

Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker will be in Omaha on Monday to campaign with Mayor Jean Stothert.

His visit will come on the heels of one by former presidential candidate Bernie Sanders, a Vermont senator, who will appear today with Stothert’s opponent, Heath Mello.

Stothert’s campaign previously announced Walker’s visit but said it was working on the details.

Walker will appear with Stothert at 4 p.m. Monday at the DC Centre, 11830 Stonegate Drive.

Omaha Steve

(99,659 posts)
44. Scott Walker and Bernie Sanders making Omaha appearances for mayor's race
Sat Apr 22, 2017, 08:50 AM
Apr 2017

Walker interrupted his busy day to take a Koch brothers call was actually a radio host. Remember that. That should tell you the "dime's worth of difference."

Details set for Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker’s appearance in Omaha to campaign for Stothert: http://www.omaha.com/news/politics/details-set-for-wisconsin-gov-scott-walker-s-appearance-in/article_be2f262e-7b5b-582e-a65b-245ac0366b34.html

Cha

(297,303 posts)
16. He was endorsed in 2010 by anti-choice group Nebraska Right to Life.
Thu Apr 20, 2017, 11:49 PM
Apr 2017
Heath Mello has sponsored a range of anti-choice measures, including a 20-week abortion ban.

Wow.. look at all the men on board.

Thank you for shining the Light on this, musette

Cha

(297,303 posts)
18. BS calls Mello a "progressive" who is anti-choice and he didn't know
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 12:01 AM
Apr 2017

if Pro choice Jon Ossoff was a progressive..

Sanders voiced his support for Mello in a statement published Wednesday by the Wall Street Journal. “If this fellow wins in Nebraska, that would be a shot across the board, that in a state like Nebraska a progressive Democrat can win, that will give hope to folks in other conservative states that perhaps they can win as well,” he said.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
27. That is exactly the problem Cha. While I can understand support for Mello
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 02:32 AM
Apr 2017

over the republican, in spite of his anti-choice positions, because in general, a Democrat is going to be better on most of the issues than the republican. That is a question of pragmatism.

However, for that same person to claim ignorance regarding Jon Ossoff's progressive credentials is not acceptable. You cannot claim ignorance when there is plenty of information out there where he stands on the issues, and especially for the special election in the 6th district in Georgia which has generated so much publicity:

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/04/19/1654449/-Jon-Ossoff-on-the-issues-presented-in-a-way-Bernie-Sanders-can-understand



Cha

(297,303 posts)
28. That's how I feel about it, too.. the Diarist @ Dkos
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 03:30 AM
Apr 2017

gets it. That's an excellent source for Jon Ossoff's progressive creds. Thanks, Good Find!

Jon Ossoff on the issues, presented in a way Bernie Sanders can understand

snip//

Women’s Heath & Planned Parenthood”

Ossoff is an unapologetic supporter of the concept of women being able to make their own decisions regarding reproductive health care, and Ossoff is a strong supporter of Planned Parenthood.

What a concept for a "progressive"!!!

snip//

National Security”

•Ossoff has promised to “oppose unnecessary military intervention overseas and...only support the use of force where US national security is at stake”
•Ossoff opposes the use of torture
•Ossoff has called for an investigation into "Russian interference in American politics”
•Ossoff referred to the Iraq War as “reckless”

Much More.. https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/04/19/1654449/-Jon-Ossoff-on-the-issues-presented-in-a-way-Bernie-Sanders-can-understand

Speaking of Dkos.. here they are pulling their endorsement of Heath Mello because of this..

The Daily Kos, which describes itself as “a news organization, community, and activist hub,” pulled its endorsement of Mello after revelations about the Democrat’s stance on abortion. The site said it had been unaware of Mello’s anti-choice stance, but that “as soon as we learned this information, we withdrew our endorsement, because this legislation clearly runs contrary to Daily Kos’ deepest values, including our support for women’s reproductive rights and our staunch opposition to laws that in any way impede women’s access to reproductive health care.”


musette https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8955986

https://rewire.news/article/2017/04/20/why-is-dnc-embracing-aggressively-anti-choice-democrat/

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
30. Well that doesn't make much sense! What the hell is going on? Something's not right...
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 07:09 AM
Apr 2017

... and I can't figure out what it is.

Cha

(297,303 posts)
32. I know..I've been gathering clues.. BS said "..he isn't prepared to back Democrats just because of
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 07:50 AM
Apr 2017
..a party label.."..




But, BS calls Heath Mello, the aggressively anti-choice, candidate a "progressive"..

Why Is the DNC Embracing an Aggressively Anti-Choice Democrat

snip//

He was endorsed in 2010 by anti-choice group Nebraska Right to Life.

Heath Mello has sponsored a range of anti-choice measures, including a 20-week abortion ban.

Heath Mello is a sponsor of the final version of a 20-week abortion ban approved by the governor in 2010, and cast anti-choice votes in favor of requiring physicians to be physically present for an abortion in order to impede access to telemedicine abortion care, and a law banning insurance plans in the state from covering abortions.

Try that ol Establishment Planned Parenthood.

snip// Dkos pulls their endorsement of Heath Mello

The Daily Kos, which describes itself as “a news organization, community, and activist hub,” pulled its endorsement of Mello after revelations about the Democrat’s stance on abortion. The site said it had been unaware of Mello’s anti-choice stance, but that “as soon as we learned this information, we withdrew our endorsement, because this legislation clearly runs contrary to Daily Kos’ deepest values, including our support for women’s reproductive rights and our staunch opposition to laws that in any way impede women’s access to reproductive health care.”

musette https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8955986

https://rewire.news/article/2017/04/20/why-is-dnc-embracing-aggressively-anti-choice-democrat/

When, Jon Ossoff, who is Pro-Choice, actually is one.. but BS "doesn't know him"..

"Jon Ossoff on the issues, presented in a way Bernie Sanders can understand"

snip//

Women’s Heath & Planned Parenthood”

Ossoff is an unapologetic supporter of the concept of women being able to make their own decisions regarding reproductive health care, and Ossoff is a strong supporter of Planned Parenthood.

What a concept for a "progressive"!!!

snip//

National Security”

•Ossoff has promised to “oppose unnecessary military intervention overseas and...only support the use of force where US national security is at stake”
•Ossoff opposes the use of torture
•Ossoff has called for an investigation into "Russian interference in American politics”
•Ossoff referred to the Iraq War as “reckless”

Much More.. https://www.dailykos.com/story/2017/04/19/1654449/-Jon-Ossoff-on-the-issues-presented-in-a-way-Bernie-Sanders-can-understan

Jon Ossoff took the high road in Georgia.. I hope he wins so badly.. Nancy Pelosi was there for him as was Samuel L Jackson.. Hollywood came out for him! Alyssa Milano and Christopher Gorham got the Vote out!

We'll never know if a few positive words instead of dismissal could have made the difference from the "most popular politician in America".

Not sure why BS wouldn't want to have gotten to know Jon Ossoff who would have immediately gone to Congress if he had won 50% and we would have had one more Dem to fight the Fascistrumps.

Jackie!



Cha

(297,303 posts)
39. Not for the country and the Planet it's not.. but,
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 09:30 AM
Apr 2017

evidently to the one pushing the "aggressively anti-choice" "progressive" it is.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
22. I am not a progressive!
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 12:35 AM
Apr 2017

Historically the progressive movement has sometimes been nationalistic, racist and misogynistic.

It placed leftist economic policies above all others. I am a proud member of the Democratic Party and support all planks in the party platform including those espousing social and economic justice, racial and gender equality.

The fact that so many members of DU migrated to a site rife with misogyny and dog whistles to support a progressive candidate cemented my opinion. And I do not think that candidate necessarily exposed those vices, but as the saying goes 'you are known by the company you keep'.

alarimer

(16,245 posts)
36. Is he the Democrat in the race?
Fri Apr 21, 2017, 08:44 AM
Apr 2017

That should be good enough for most folks here. I've heard it time and again that only the D matters, every time we progressives complain about Joe Manchin or the like. But "purity tests" blah, blah, blah. "Any D is better than any R."

For the record, I do agree with you. But many folks here make the point that we take what we can get in red states and that is also true.

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