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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsClaude Taylor explains Dianne Feinstein's reaction after the Intel Committee briefing
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It's the first leak that I've seen about that day. No wonder.
Baitball Blogger
(46,736 posts)iluvtennis
(19,863 posts)ananda
(28,866 posts)Here we are today and ... nothing.
If they have evidence, well, ....
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)This case is enormous, much bigger and more important even than Watergate.
It has to be done right. There is the principle "Innocent until proven guilty" and that goes double for the President, even if he is only the Minority President.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)Thank-you! Our country has never been through anything like this and it's gonna take some time to get it right.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)from.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)have to be verified and supported for possible use is complicated and time consuming. Trump's circle of possible traitors are scared. Bigly!
Raster
(20,998 posts)... WE HAVE NEVER IN OUR LIFETIMES seen a political situation such as that which faces us now. EVERYTHING about the tRump* affair is foreign and vague. We are seeing signs that our own political weaknesses are being gamed and used against us by nefarious agents --both internal and external. And, if the preliminary suppositions are supported by the data now being gathered, we are seeing one of this country's major governing political parties COLLUDING WITH SAID NEFARIOUS AGENTS for their own political gains. How we proceed is of the utmost importance, as many avenues may be wrought with peril, and could have lasting ramifications on our country and our American society.
bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)Western jurisprudence is on the docket. 800 years after Magna Carta, do we have what it takes to defend our civilization from despots, or are we better off with autocrats?
The net must be widely cast, so as to capture the worst perps and follow all leads. Timing is critical too. Public opinion must be
turned against the criminals because impeachment is a political act to punish politically criminal behavior. You're better off with 60% of the deplorables with you, than 90% of them against you.
I think Old School true Royalty never thought much of democracy, though many countries are now Constitutional monarchies, or with single house Parliments or even bicameral legislatures with a titular head of state. They still look to entrenched political power and wisdom for direction in the long run. We don't have that long run head of state ruling family. We have institutions, that are still evolving and often on trial.
So you can't just rush and topple our government. No votes of confidence, no early elections. We have long run interests in mind, but we don't respond quickly to crises.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,007 posts)FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)...but we must face this with hope and resolve.
I believe Obama is working quietly because he saw the ramifications of what Trump was doing even before the election. He's careful to stay out of the limelight but he's not walking away from it.
You're right this isn't going to happen quickly, but it will happen.
If we believe in our Constitution, we need to have hope. And resolve.
Pluvious
(4,313 posts)There must be so many bread crumbs to follow.
We've never been more reliant on the right people to think of the good of the Country and not their goddamned party.
History is watching us all this moment.
FakeNoose
(32,645 posts)... so I can only guess what Obama's doing.
I read that Obama and Sally Yates (and probably others) made sure that documents were numbered and preserved so they wouldn't disappear when Trump came in. Obama realized that it would take more time than he had left as POTUS to get the ducks lined up. But he did see the evidence - including the Steele report - while he was still in office
I believe Sally Yates is the key and she needs to be called in to testify as soon as possible.
Pluvious
(4,313 posts)And they make a great bigly beautiful movie !
randome
(34,845 posts)And plan how to refute them accordingly. That can take time.
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L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)revealing their legal strategy of trying to get the evidence throw out as a political witch hunt.
In other words, caught and guilty, no other recourse but to impugn the evidence.
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Especially not against a president backed by the money, power and corruption of the Russian oligarchy.
Patience is a virtue. This isn't Fitzmas.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I would think that the problem of deranged, weaponized trumpanzees is also being factored into strategy. They have to have comprehensive plans to minimize threats to the public and to the government.
Edit to add: Not to mention, the threat of a pissed off Putin.
There were no issues like this to be dealt with during Watergate.
BumRushDaShow
(129,096 posts)and not just due to the trumpanzees but also dealing with the extent, depth, and breadth of involvement of apparently a number of high level members of the Executive and Legislative branches. This is some nasty business.
Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)investigation in the history of the world, so we gotta relax -
Well, okay, if reading five thousand tweets and two thousand DU posts a day is "relaxing", then I guess I'm relaxxxxed!
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Son! I say... I say...Sonnn!
(sorry, hope you don't mind. I could NOT resist!!)
ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)These things move too slowly for most of us, but wait and see.
yardwork
(61,650 posts)triron
(22,007 posts)calimary
(81,322 posts)I haven't seen that face on her since she announced the murders of George Moscone and Harvey Milk on THAT awful night in San Francisco. Absolutely punched-in-the-gut. And trying like hell to maintain her composure.
Paladin
(28,264 posts)Her reaction that day was when I started believing the trump administration was in jeopardy. Hope it comes to pass, and damned soon.
Vesper
(229 posts)calimary
(81,322 posts)You've mentioned another "woman I love."
I LOVE LOVE LOVE the Great Lady Maxine. She's been a thorn in the bad guys' sides for a long time. She sure speaks for me - even more now than ever before.
Vesper
(229 posts)I needed to vent after reading rewire. They don't allow comments anymore.
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)lark
(23,105 posts)If they have the evidence, which everything they say points to the fact that they do indeed have this, then WTF don't they do anything with it? Treason has been committed and is enlarged every day orange assface is in his stolen office. he just about lied us into war over the weekend and he's only been in office less than 100 days. He will destroy us for his own profit if left in office and the US constitution will be just a fond memory.
Bernardo de La Paz
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spanone
(135,844 posts)Duppers
(28,125 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,182 posts)I read her reaction as shock, dread, the weight of the world suddenly upon
her shoulders and no clear path of what to do about it
GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)zentrum
(9,865 posts)....please Hurry Up, Di. We don't have much time. People are being deported. We've already lost the SC. The MOAB dropped.Hurry.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)GliderGuider
(21,088 posts)Far, far worse than the consequences of living with the Orange Shitgibbon for another few months.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)flamingdem
(39,313 posts)VigilantG
(374 posts)Some good voices on this thread. No trolls.
I keep hearing the cliche in my head "Patience is a virtue." Ugh! The process HAS to be done right though.