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http://www.rawstory.com/2017/04/trumps-missile-attack-on-syria-was-justified-with-fake-intelligence-experts/Trumps missile attack on Syria was justified with fake intelligence: experts
Steven Rosenfeld, AlterNet
18 Apr 2017 at 23:23 ET
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But these assertions are not clear, consistent or convincing, said Theodore Postol, a professor of Science, Technology, and International Security at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Postol, who has received numerous awards for his work on missile systems and has worked for the Office of the Chief of Naval Operations, looked at the same information sources cited by the White House and concluded in a 14-page analysis that, first of all, whatever happened in Khan Shaykhun was not the result of an air attack.
Its important to be clear about what Im saying, he told AlterNet. Im saying that a so-called White House intelligence report issued on April 11 is totally inconsistent with the claims its making. Im not so much saying that I know what happened, because actually I dont. What I do know is that this report was, to be blunt, fabricated without the intelligence methodologies that it claims to have used. Because I have data that I have been poring over for example, theres video data of this crater that they allege was the source of an air attack, an air munitions. It was not an air munition. You could see that very easily.
Bennis agreed that the White House intelligence report doesnt prove what it claims.
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Less than 100 days into Trumps presidency, the White House has failed to pass a single major piece of legislation. Instead, beyond placing a right-wing justice on the Supreme Court with the GOP-majority U.S. Senates help, Trump has already committed an act of war: an unauthorized attack on a foreign power. And his administration has fabricated the evidence for that attack, an intelligence report that doesnt prove what it purports.
As Postol said, something is going on with the nations intelligence apparatus and the politics surrounding it, and its not making the world a safer place.
spanone
(135,858 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)as to dream up and orchestrate events like these for any of multiple reasons?
Stay out of modern American history if you think this isn't possible.
Phoenix61
(17,011 posts)Wouldn't surprise me a bit. That it would be a lie that could be proved to be a lie hasn't seemed to matter in the past so I'm not sure why anyone would think it would matter now. They are the worst thing that has ever happened to this country.
Baitball Blogger
(46,755 posts)media having trouble calling these people liars?
babylonsister
(171,079 posts)Trumps Syria strike clearly broke international law and no one seems to care
https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/4/19/15345686/syria-un-strike-illegal-un-humanitarian-law
DK504
(3,847 posts)Blow shit up and lie about the reasons or can't be bothered to act correctly on the information.
panader0
(25,816 posts)killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)However Turkey is not neutral in this conflict.
panader0
(25,816 posts)It is possible that chorine was the killer gas, and that it was stored in a building that
was bombed. I don't know. I just don't automatically believe what the White House
says. Rescuers were using their bare hands to wash down the victims. I watched
the videos. If sarin was used, the rescuers would have died too.
hedda_foil
(16,375 posts)Something happened to those people that certainly behaved like poison gas. He's saying that he doubts it was dropped from a plane because of something to do with the crater.
Maybe he's right, but it reads to me like another case of "trust me, I'm an expert no one has ever heard of."
The asshole in Chief and his gang of thugs are more likely to behave stupidly than not, but this piece is pretty flimsy.
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woundedkarma
(498 posts)I'm guessing whoever this guy is he was either given this info or he's a russian plant.
I am not defending and never will defend trump.
This sure looks like a setup by putin though because putin people came out immediately after the bombing and started saying that the u.s. (trump) planted the sarin evidence using a bomb laced with something that would test positive as sarin.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-usa-putin-idUSKBN17D1K9
My uneducated guess :p is that putin either encouraged assad or set up the sarin attack himself. Then they start laying this foundation that the U.S faked it. Then they release the evidence or pay off some guy to analyze it and say something that supports their claim.
This is either another full on Russian info attack or it's russia taking advantage. Either way, it hurts the U.S and not just trump and we need to call out russia on this bull.
denvine
(802 posts)But, I have always felt as though this was a coordinated distraction. Coordinated with Russia & Syria to take the heat off of Trump's failing presidency and to make people think that Trump and Russia are not buddies. They had nothing to lose and it worked for Trump. The media couldn't say enough good things about it. They knew the strike was coming, so no big loss. I don't trust Trump to put country or anyone ahead of himself.
niyad
(113,518 posts)FakeNoose
(32,713 posts)... who's more likely to have lied?
The Trump administration or the Putin flunkies?
Or are they pretty much the same thing?
Foamfollower
(1,097 posts)No offense, but RawStory tends to throw a spin on things that doesn't pan out in reality.
babylonsister
(171,079 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Richard Clarke had posted this on his FB page and when I posted here it was removed as a kooky CT.
lillypaddle
(9,581 posts)they just keep coming, and yet ...
askyagerz
(776 posts)Every expert that saw that crater and smashed munition was like wait a minute that doesn't make any sense whatsoever
killbotfactory
(13,566 posts)As Assad apologists or Russian stooges, while cheering on the Trump missle strikes.
askyagerz
(776 posts)We know who they are...