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kentuck

(111,097 posts)
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:38 PM Apr 2017

Is Donald Trump lying to the American people when he says his taxes are under audit ??

Why should the IRS not be able to respond to that simple question? It's not like asking for personal financial information, debits and credits.

A simple yes or no would suffice.

Would Donald lie?

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Is Donald Trump lying to the American people when he says his taxes are under audit ?? (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2017 OP
Does't matter if they are under audit, he can still release them. nt fleabiscuit Apr 2017 #1
Is his mouth moving? eom Maeve Apr 2017 #2
Even if his taxes are being audited, I believe they still be released. panader0 Apr 2017 #3
The IRS has said an audit does not Flaleftist Apr 2017 #4
Yes malaise Apr 2017 #5
If ever there was a man whose taxes needed to be perpetually audited Mr. Ected Apr 2017 #6
He should produce an audit letter mainstreetonce Apr 2017 #7
Thank you. An audit letter would be a good start. underpants Apr 2017 #15
Maybe Quackers Apr 2017 #8
I've seen whole companies get audited more quickly than Trump. milestogo Apr 2017 #9
IRS: Nothing prevents Trump from releasing tax returns spanone Apr 2017 #10
Yes Progressive dog Apr 2017 #11
I doubt he is lying. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #12
I think a lot of his "business interests" are labeled "Trump, LLC's"... kentuck Apr 2017 #18
Wish I had more time to look at them. NCTraveler Apr 2017 #22
Thanks for the link! kentuck Apr 2017 #31
It doesn't matter. Buffett was under audit too released his to prove Trump wrong... WePurrsevere Apr 2017 #13
No, he's not lying when he says they're under audit. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2017 #14
He might not be lying when he says they are under audit, but smirkymonkey Apr 2017 #16
Does a howler monkey sniff when making speeches? JHB Apr 2017 #17
Notice they always say "normal audit" duncang Apr 2017 #19
yes Angry Dragon Apr 2017 #20
Ironically now that he is president he is required by law to be audited every year. briv1016 Apr 2017 #21
He probably is not lying about the audit every year especially with his taxes Kathy M Apr 2017 #23
He just doesn't want us to see all that Russian income in there world wide wally Apr 2017 #24
The other thing forgot about are the estimated taxes paid every few months with Kathy M Apr 2017 #25
Yes!!! nt jrthin Apr 2017 #26
Doesn't he earn an automatic annual audit as POTUS? struggle4progress Apr 2017 #27
If he's talking, he's lying n/t ornotna Apr 2017 #28
Yes. NewDealProgressive Apr 2017 #29
He didn't say *who* is conducting the audit! unblock Apr 2017 #30
What about past tax returns califootman Apr 2017 #32
Yes, and he could easily clear it up... Wounded Bear Apr 2017 #33

panader0

(25,816 posts)
3. Even if his taxes are being audited, I believe they still be released.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:41 PM
Apr 2017

Not by the IRS but by Trump.
But I'm not sure if the IRS can say whether they are being audited or not.
I doubt if they can release that info. And I'll bet Trump's lawyers knew that.

Flaleftist

(3,473 posts)
4. The IRS has said an audit does not
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:42 PM
Apr 2017

prevent him from releasing his taxes. That's just another one of his many lies.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
6. If ever there was a man whose taxes needed to be perpetually audited
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:43 PM
Apr 2017

That man would be Donald J Trump.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
7. He should produce an audit letter
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:43 PM
Apr 2017

If that doesn't exist, all his excuses are a total lie,including the phony letter he showed from his attorney.

Quackers

(2,256 posts)
8. Maybe
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:44 PM
Apr 2017

The IRS isn't allowed to disclose if someone is under audit or not, unless they charge them with some tax crime. Whether he is or not, theres no rule that says you're prohibited from releasing your own taxes even if they are currently being audited.

He's just lying.

spanone

(135,834 posts)
10. IRS: Nothing prevents Trump from releasing tax returns
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:47 PM
Apr 2017
Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump is not prohibited from releasing his tax returns because he is being audited, according to the Internal Revenue Service.

“Nothing prevents individuals from sharing their own tax information,” the IRS said in a statement.

Trump, a wealthy businessman, said during Thursday’s debate that he can’t release his tax returns because he is the subject of an audit. At a press conference on Friday, he reiterated that he would not make his returns publicly available until the audit is complete.
“I’m just going to put you people to rest: Until my audit is finished, very simple, you are not going to see anything,” he said.

But while tax law does not prevent Trump from releasing his returns, waiting until his audit is completed may be beneficial, experts said.


http://thehill.com/policy/finance/270964-irs-nothing-prevents-trump-from-releasing-tax-returns
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
12. I doubt he is lying.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:49 PM
Apr 2017

I have looked thru his list of bussiness entities. Most are insignificant but it is still a lot. There is a very good chance that one of his interests is always being audited.

Releasing his taxes would not interfere with an audit.

kentuck

(111,097 posts)
18. I think a lot of his "business interests" are labeled "Trump, LLC's"...
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:23 PM
Apr 2017

Those would be difficult to explain or to comprehend. Probably because most of them have been used to launder money? Perhaps?

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
22. Wish I had more time to look at them.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:42 PM
Apr 2017

One is an entity set up to get and manage a cemetart for his family and select associates. I spent about three hours looking at some of them. I just don't have time to look more.

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/TrumpFinancialDisclosure20150722.pdf

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
13. It doesn't matter. Buffett was under audit too released his to prove Trump wrong...
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:54 PM
Apr 2017
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/11/business/buffett-calls-trumps-bluff-and-releases-his-tax-return.html?_r=0

In the above link it also mentions that the IRS has said that an audit doesn't prevent Trump from making his returns public.

The FACT is that Trump is LYING about not being able to release them. Why LIE about this when releasing them would stop the demands to see them UNLESS of course you have something to hide that releasing them would reveal.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,178 posts)
14. No, he's not lying when he says they're under audit.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 07:56 PM
Apr 2017

He's in that bracket that gets audited EVERY year.

He's lying when he says that the audit is why he can't release them. The IRS can't release them. He can. And the first thing the IRS would probably do is take a quick look and see if there's any difference between what he'd released to the public and what he'd filed.

It's a no-win situation for him. I love it.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
16. He might not be lying when he says they are under audit, but
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:17 PM
Apr 2017

he is lying when he says they can't be released.

duncang

(1,907 posts)
19. Notice they always say "normal audit"
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:24 PM
Apr 2017

So if it is normal and nothing to see hear. The next question is why not release? Now this part I am going the "kindest" possible interpretation I can come up with. It could possibly be "legal" but shows conflicts of interest. Where he should be expected to recuse his self from any executive orders maybe even commenting on it. Personally I think there is a lot more to it then that.

briv1016

(1,570 posts)
21. Ironically now that he is president he is required by law to be audited every year.
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 08:30 PM
Apr 2017

That being said. Every president since Carter has released their taxes every year of their presidency while under these audits.

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
23. He probably is not lying about the audit every year especially with his taxes
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 09:01 PM
Apr 2017

the other thing to keep in mind are extensions . Even living in small town we do I know a few who have filed extensions .

Kathy M

(1,242 posts)
25. The other thing forgot about are the estimated taxes paid every few months with
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:22 PM
Apr 2017

businesses / corporations

unblock

(52,233 posts)
30. He didn't say *who* is conducting the audit!
Mon Apr 17, 2017, 10:41 PM
Apr 2017

Kpmg? Ernst&young? Deloitte? Price Waterhouse Cooper?

If the IRS isn't auditing his taxes, he could pay any of them a small fee to conduct a private "audit" of his taxes. The scope letter could specify do not actually look at his taxes and to never finish it, lol!

califootman

(120 posts)
32. What about past tax returns
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:18 AM
Apr 2017

Shouldn't some of his past tax returns have cleared audit and therefore be releasable by his criteria? Even if they were five or ten years old it would be a good faith gesture to release them and quell some of the uproar over his lack of transparency.

Perhaps he knows their release would only create more uproar.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
33. Yes, and he could easily clear it up...
Tue Apr 18, 2017, 12:47 AM
Apr 2017

by showing the letter from the IRS telling him he's under audit.

The IRS didn't tweet him that he was under audit.

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