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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 01:15 PM Apr 2017

"I don't want people to get hurt...What I think should happen and will happen is..."



President Donald Trump is now threatening to wipe out health insurance for millions of people in order to make a political statement. In an interview with the Wall Street Journal Wednesday, Trump suggested that unless Democrats agree to his plans to dismantle Obamacare, he might use his executive authority to intentionally trigger a death spiral for the individual insurance markets.

Specifically, Trump threatened to stop making payments to insurance companies to reimburse them for subsidies that help offset the costs of deductibles and copayments for low-income people. Those subsidies are mandated by Obamacare; if the feds stopped reimbursing insurers for this expense, they would likely abandon the individual markets and leave millions without coverage.

The president seemed to acknowledge in the interview that halting the reimbursements would likely result in the health care markets collapsing, but he said he might go through with it in order to extract concessions from Democrats. "Obamacare is dead next month if it doesn't get that money," Trump told the paper. "I haven't made my viewpoint clear yet. I don't want people to get hurt…What I think should happen and will happen is the Democrats will start calling me and negotiating."

As Trump himself said, ending the program would be a disaster for Obamacare. It would cause insurance companies to flee the individual markets (which, in some parts of the country, already suffer from a lack of insurance options). And the remaining insurance offerings would jump in price. An analysis by the Kaiser Family Foundation found that premiums for a baseline plan would jump 19 percent if cost sharing disappears.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2017/04/donald-trump-obamacare-cost-sharing-reductions
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"I don't want people to get hurt...What I think should happen and will happen is..." (Original Post) Miles Archer Apr 2017 OP
I don't want people to get hurt, but I will pull the trigger if I don't get my way. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #1
Ya, see, I don't want nobody should get hurt, so them Democrats MineralMan Apr 2017 #2
That's criminal. dchill Apr 2017 #3
Democrats need to sit back and watch, they were not included by Ryan & the GOP... Historic NY Apr 2017 #4
I don't want people to get hurt... N_E_1 for Tennis Apr 2017 #5
Trump is both stupid and evil enough to go through with this. Charles Bukowski Apr 2017 #6
I wonder if his "followers" will see this for what it is Miles Archer Apr 2017 #8
This is what happens when a mobbed-up thug... GReedDiamond Apr 2017 #7
I didn't think it was possible to hate this monster more NastyRiffraff Apr 2017 #9

Solly Mack

(90,778 posts)
1. I don't want people to get hurt, but I will pull the trigger if I don't get my way.
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 01:20 PM
Apr 2017

And, somehow, the man who pulls the trigger that kills many will successfully blame others for his assault.

The Democrats in Congress left me no choice. I had to kill your child, your spouse, even you, to kill Obamacare.

MineralMan

(146,320 posts)
2. Ya, see, I don't want nobody should get hurt, so them Democrats
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 01:30 PM
Apr 2017

had oughta play along with me, nice-like. That way, everything would be, you know, copacetic.

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
4. Democrats need to sit back and watch, they were not included by Ryan & the GOP...
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 01:38 PM
Apr 2017

they should not have to participate in Trumps campaign promise to eliminate Obamacare. If he wants to fix it he needs to fix it with Republicans....I like to watch them dance on the string above the open flame.

N_E_1 for Tennis

(9,761 posts)
5. I don't want people to get hurt...
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 01:38 PM
Apr 2017

Unless,

They are not able to get "regular" insurance.

If they are of a different color than me.

If they want to come to this country to escape death in their country.

If they are women.

If they protest me at my events.

Oh com'on add some more.......




 

Charles Bukowski

(1,132 posts)
6. Trump is both stupid and evil enough to go through with this.
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 04:29 PM
Apr 2017

His approval rating would drop below 30% with this stunt, but the consequences would be disastrous for all.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
8. I wonder if his "followers" will see this for what it is
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 06:24 PM
Apr 2017

As GReedDiamond states below, it's extortion, plain and simple.

But when Trump places the blame solely on Democrats for "not negotiating"...which he most certainly will...will that register as a lie?

He doesn't want a "negotiation." He wants the Democrats to sign off on RyanCare, and he knows that won't happen, so he's not giving up without making as many people suffer as possible, so he can shift the blame.

I think his "followers" will listen to him first, and reason later...if at all.

I'm saying this from personal experience. I've posted a few threads about my sister and brother in law. They are about as brainwashed for Trump as you can get. I can already anticipate how they would react to this.

GReedDiamond

(5,314 posts)
7. This is what happens when a mobbed-up thug...
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 04:40 PM
Apr 2017

...is the so-called "president."

Extortion.

Destroy the health insurance companies and hurt/kill their insureds unless the Mob Don gets his way.

Fucking pig asshole.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
9. I didn't think it was possible to hate this monster more
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 06:27 PM
Apr 2017

Turns out it is. He's willing to make millions suffer unless he gets his way. I've seen less petulant two year olds.

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