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ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:28 PM Apr 2017

Was Berkely a Conspiracy?

Serious question. There are eighteen states whose rethug legislature introduced bills to curb protesting against tRump. But there is that niggling freedom of speech clause in the constitution. Still, if they can prove that political protests lead to violence, then political protests could, theoretically, be excluded from the protection of freedom of speech.

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L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
10. This was done by outside White Nationalist Trumpster agitators who traveled to Berkeley
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 09:37 AM
Apr 2017

for the express purpose of violent disruption. They are trying to impose anti-protest laws and causing violence is part of that plan.

This is what FASCISTS do.


cheapdate

(3,811 posts)
11. How many demonstrations in Berkely over the past year
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 10:11 AM
Apr 2017

would you say have led to violent confrontations?

Black Bloc and Antifa demonstrators are practically a constant feature of Berkely demonstrations, it's hardly a phenomenon that needs another data point.

For what it's worth, I regularly organize and participate in street demonstrations here in Tennessee. Here's a news clip about what's up in our state legislatively:
http://www.tennessean.com/story/news/politics/2017/03/23/tennessee-senate-passes-anti-protester-bill/99122244/

Edit: there absolutely are fascists and right-wing extremists who go to demonstrations and stage events solely to incite violence. Always have been and probably always will be.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
2. Don't think so but it seems getting rid of Trump will be compatible
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:32 PM
Apr 2017

to pulling a tooth with a pair of pliers.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
3. Trump's core supporters are starting to turn against him...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:36 PM
Apr 2017

now that they know he flip-flops under pressure. This may have been a last ditch attempt by the alt-right and Bannon to draw attention and save face. That poor clown dressed in the American flag pants who got the shit beaten out of him, he must have known what he was getting into.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,855 posts)
5. I doubt it, but the violence from groups like Antifa doesn't help liberals when...
Sat Apr 15, 2017, 09:38 PM
Apr 2017

... people go to vote.

Too many people associate them with liberals because they're often protesting Trump.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
8. By whom?
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 12:05 AM
Apr 2017

How far up the chain does it go? See, I don't think that tRump called for it. I can see some state legislators giving the green light.

Breitbart is claiming left wing people were bused in. I saw someone post about Soros paying (again ).

Something smells rotten in Den...California.

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
12. Yes.
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 10:17 AM
Apr 2017

Anybody interested can start with @RVAwonk here for more info: https://twitter.com/RVAwonk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.democraticunderground.com%2F10028936355

I watched them dig up things as it was happening.

Now Trump is actually asking about Berkley. Coincidence? Really?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
15. Ok, now we know it was planned far in advance
Sun Apr 16, 2017, 12:23 PM
Apr 2017

with the specific intention of causing a riot. And it was posted on FB that whole time. Why the hell was nothing done?

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