Trump demands gold-plated welcome in England.

[kstewart33]

The Times of London:

Donald Trump waving from the Queen’s royal carriage is not a scenario many would have foreseen a year ago, but it has become a very real prospect, forcing security services to plan an unprecedented lockdown.

The White House has made clear it regards the carriage procession down the Mall as an essential element of the itinerary for the visit currently planned for the second week of October, according to officials.

Security sources have warned, however, that the procession will require a “monster” security operation, far greater than for any recent state visit.

The Metropolitan Police was already gearing up for the biggest public order operation in several years, with tens of thousands of people expected to descend on the area to protest. Senior police are already grappling with how to achieve a balance between Mr Trump’s security and allowing the public’s right to demonstrate. One source said that Mr Trump’s decision to opt for the carriage, rather than the bullet and bomb-proof car that was used by his predecessor presented a range of fresh headaches.

Link: https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/trump-demands-gold-plated-welcome-xjnffdq32

[Achilleaze]

1. republican princeling demands ROYAL ass-kiss

Screw that. I'm an American, and I don't bow down to, or kiss any freaking "royal" ass whether it comes from England or a freaking sleazeball New Jersey Casino.

Latter Day republicans might go all submissive for that hierarchical shit and for casino con men, but decent and dignified Americans rejected that crap long ago.

[JoeOtterbein]

2. Royal Carriage! Sounds like something from The Onion!

[forgotmylogin]

36. But...isn't the Royal Carriage for people the crowds *want* to see?

They're going to end up with an egg and tomato-splattered golden carriage driving at high speed if things go as they normally do.

Gadzooks, does 45 think he's Cinderella?

Does he think the UK populace like him?

[2naSalit]

3. He wants the Royal Ass Kiss...

And he intends to be the biggest pain in the ass about it too. If I were the queen, I would refuse to let him place his shit-stained self in that carriage. And besides, if he treats her like he did Chancellor Merkle, that will be awkward.

I thought there was a vote to keep him out with no state dinner hoopla.

[bettyellen]

14. He's insulted both Diana and Princess Kate, so I'm thinking William needs to embarrass him

I can't imagine them allowing him to use them as PR after all the crap he's said about them.

[2naSalit]

54. I'd like to see that.,,nt

[MineralMan]

4. We Regret That We Will Not Be Able to Accommodate President Trump.

That's it. Just send it to him. Screw that!

[Nevernose]

5. That's what I was about to post

Surely Her Majesty could just decline the use of her ride.

[DinahMoeHum]

65. Oh heck, let them boil that down to two words. . .

. . .say either "Sod Off" or "Bugger Off"

[sakabatou]

6. This is satire, right?

[rock]

12. Hard to tell

I can believe it either way.

[kstewart33]

18. No, it's the real deal. nt

[Bengus81]

7. What he's going to GET is 100,000 protesters.....

My daughter lives there,they won't be throwing roses when he arrives.

[NastyRiffraff]

48. The English people hate him

The large majority, at least. That carriage will not be a pretty sight, what with the rotten fruit dripping from it.

[malaise]

8. Let me see - October carriage ride on the Mall - give him

With 71mm of rainfall spread across 15 days, October is the rainiest month in London. It could be hurricane like rain

Wash out

[wryter2000]

31. Lord, I hope it pours

And drowns that poor creature on his head.

[malaise]

44. If it washes off the weave

I'll be fine

[luvMIdog]

9. That jerk WISHES he were a king he stalked Princess Diana

He wanted to be royalty so bad. He stalked Princess Diana and she said he creeped her out LOL.

[malaise]

39. He has to prove to his dead mother that

he will be accepted by royalty

[Historic NY]

10. He probably wants a gold crapper to...

http://www.thomas-crapper.com/High-level-Set-with-Throne-seat.html

[panader0]

15. I think he wants a toilet with a mirror lined bowl

so he can...never mind.

[WhiteTara]

49. ewwww!

[dalton99a]

16. Just do this - if he insists:

[meow2u3]

22. He already has a gold-plated crapper

That's his idea of sitting on the throne like the king he thinks he is!

[Coventina]

11. How did a guy this personally repellant EVER make ANY successful business deals?

I just don't get it.

[Volaris]

23. He didnt. That's the point his whole life is a scam.

Daddy in the ground is either rolling over, or just proud as punch.

[zentrum]

27. Money talks

....and Money walks. Big real estate is often totally corrupt. The top guy always makes out and cities and workers are left holding the bag.

He came from money. You too could be extremely wealthy if you began with millions and knew how to work real estate scams. Not to mention casinos. And how to not pay taxes through bankruptcies that don't touch your assets.

[SergeStorms]

35. Trump has.....

teams of lawyers and negotiators - who he pays quite handsomely - to hammer out the specifics of all contracts. Trump signs them, much like his Oval Office, 'Executive Order', signing ceremonies. He makes a big deal of it, going so far as having "The Art of the Deal" - a work of pure fiction - ghost written for him. His 'Executive Order' signing ceremonies are always attended by as many toadies as possible, with Trump holding them up for all to see, like a 9 year old country hayseed holding up his 3rd place, 4H, hog raising ribbon.
Trump doesn't have the mental capacity to negotiate these deals himself. He's far too busy looking for mirrors in which to admire his own likeness.

[JI7]

55. he didn't. it's why he is indebted to the russians

[uponit7771]

64. He hasn't... Usually debt shifts and stiffs his vendors

[ProudLib72]

13. I'm not British and this still hits a nerve

It's a mockery of the Royal family for him to ride in a carriage. What a dick!

[world wide wally]

17. Be like Nancy... Just say NO

[Bernardo de La Paz]

19. He has a gold-plated ego. . . nt

[FailureToCommunicate]

20. I'm guessing Trump has something more like this in mind...

[potone]

21. OK, I'm missing something here.

What right does he have to make such a demand? It is usually the hosts who establish the terms of the visit, not the guest, isn't it? Why should the Queen degrade herself and her country (and embarrass all decent Americans) by acceding to the wishes of this vulgar,narcissistic fool?

[csziggy]

66. Exactly - he will be a GUEST in the United Kingdom

Guests with any class do NOT make demands. But then, Dolt45 has no class, never did.

He is an embarrassment to this country.

[jmowreader]

24. Pick the bastard up in a paddy wagon

And take him straight to MI6 headquarters.

[zentrum]

25. Mad as hell at

...the Queen for seeing him now. Completely something she could delay.

Seeing him now really elevates his credibility--when we may be on the verge of war and/or impeachment.

Shame. Shame. Shame.

[Rollo]

29. Unfortunately the Queen has little choice in the matter...

Trump, whether anyone likes is, is a head of state, and one of the Queen's major duties, as head of state, is to greet other visiting heads of state. She'd get into a lot of trouble with Parliament if she refused - at least with the ruling Conservative majority.

However there are other ways she can express her disapproval. Not being royalty myself, I don't know what, but it would be highly entertaining to see what nuances she uses to express her revulsion.

Maybe her corgis can stage a sneak attack on Trump's nether regions.

[SergeStorms]

37. Doesn't Trump.....

have to abide by the rules and traditions enjoyed by the Queen, though? Never to leave a room with your back toward the Queen, etc? I can see this orange bull in a china shop making a mockery of the Queens pomp and circumstance.

He will, no doubt, demand it of everyone upon his return to the U.S. The usual air of respect and authority given a President of the United States won't seem nearly as magnificent as he deems necessary for a man of his ________ (fill in the blank).

[zentrum]

45. I have a memory of..

...there being debates in Parliament about preventing his visit. I know there are ways to use the rules to say the visit cannot occur until Parliament has submitted to such and such a rule etc. Ways ot use procedure. The Brits are good at that.

She's old. She can beg off. Some lesser royal can meet with him. Charles probably. But it sure would be a greatly deflated photo-op if it wasn't her.

I think there are things she can do to diminish the impact of this for his stature.

[BannonsLiver]

61. Here's one clue

The Queen's favorite residence (other than Balmoral) is Windsor Castle. If everything is done at Buck House in London then that could give at least one clue. During Obama's last visit to the U.K. he was invited to Windsor. I think it's saved for people she really likes. And they have had many state dinners at Windsor as well. My hunch is that they don't have much use for Trump if for no other reason than he is "new money". In general the Brits don't care for braggarts either.

[Hekate]

26. Just. Say. No.

I didn't think we could get more embarrassed than Dubya on the world stage.

[Txbluedog]

28. This is part of a normal state visit

Just because Obama had the class to decline such an outrageous display doesn't mean that Trump has to follow suit

[Rollo]

30. Trump wouldn't know class if it extended a gloved hand in welcome.

[LeftInTX]

38. The carriages are not as secure as the president's vehicle.

I don't even know if they are bullet proof. I wouldn't be surprised if most presidents in recent history have stuck with their own motorcade.

The Times is behind a paywall, Huffington Post also has an article:

Sources told The Times that the carriage was not as secure as the president’s traditional armored vehicle that is bulletproof, protects against a chemical attack, and can withstand a small bomb.

Security officials are preparing for massive protests during Trump’s visit, which The Times reported will require unprecedented security. The Evening Standard reported in February that policing costs for the visit could be up to 7 million pounds.

“The vehicle which carries the president of the United States is a spectacular vehicle. It is designed to withstand a massive attack like a low-level rocket grenade,” a source told The Times. “If he’s in that vehicle he is incredibly well protected and on top of that it can travel at enormous speed. If he is in a golden coach being dragged up the Mall by a couple of horses, the risk factor is dramatically increased.”

[BannonsLiver]

32. I've seen these carriages up close and they aren't made for morbidly obese people

I don't see how he could even get in one at the rate he's gaining weight and he's already really really fat.

[irisblue]

33. Is there any chance this is a hoax?

[catbyte]

34. Give me a goddamned break. Is this because Princess Di said he was "creepy?"

Besides, who is he to demand anything from them?

[malaise]

40. How else will they know about The Emperor's New Clothes?

http://www.andersen.sdu.dk/vaerk/hersholt/TheEmperorsNewClothes_e.html

Let's find two weavers now

[Ilsa]

41. Everyone staying home, empty streets, would bother him more than a protest.

Seriously, let him have his stupid carriage ride with zero people out there paying any attention to him. One protest sign: "We'd rather be anywhere not around you."

[Ilsa]

42. OMG. Google it! It's a story in multiple papers!

Here's an idea: let him have it, then let Brits bill him for the security.

Spread the word EVERYWHERE that he insisted on being treated this way. Let the deniers explain it.

[mulsh]

43. I believe this is a much more impressive ride with the royals than any carriage ride

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[blogslut]

46. He wants to help Her Majesty in/out of the car so bad!

Elizabeth Alexandra Mary is having none of it.

[alarimer]

47. They should just say no.

Fuck him.

[yortsed snacilbuper]

50. K&R

[sdfernando]

51. That carriage is old

I'm sure it cannot support his hefty weight. And the first step will likely break as he puts his weight on it. If he makes it past that will he even fit through the carriage door?

[Buns_of_Fire]

58. They might have to add a couple horses.

It's not every day they're called upon to lug around Jabba the President.

[sdfernando]

59. Jabba the President!!!

LOL.

I'm totally stealing that!

[ecstatic]

52. Great idea, Trump. Please proceed. nt

[GoCubsGo]

53. Let him have his damn carriage ride.

And, provide security as if he was riding in The Beast. If he wants it so bad, let him deal with any consequences of riding in an unsecured vehicle.

[Solly Mack]

56. Viserys Trumpgaryen.

[Buns_of_Fire]

57. Maybe he's demanding this to avoid an avalanche of spoiled veggies.

I think in most circles, lobbing rotten tomatoes at the Queen's carriage -- especially when she's in it -- is considered terribly bad taste.

[NastyRiffraff]

60. He has no business "demanding" anything

from a sovereign nation. He's going to embarrass us yet again.

[nolabear]

62. Will they let actual citizens line the route? I envision a GREAT mooning!

Seriously, what British police are going to risk lives and reputations protecting that great buffoon from being humiliated on his little carriage ride?

[kstewart33]

67. Bingo.

Very well said.

[Danascot]

63. Here you go Donald

Now stop whining