****BREAKING**** : ".... background of officer who beat Dr. David Dao shows multiple ... "

[uponit7771]

Last edited Wed Apr 12, 2017, 09:41 AM - Edit history (1)

... Nothing,

Not a damn thang

Cause no one has looked into the background of the offender ... MSNBC's Tom (whatever) hasn't mentioned the race or any other stories of the officer(s) background who did the beating.


Cause its easy to blame the victim ... Let's continue to police the victim blaming here on DU, call it out and not let the M$M get away with it either.


No doubt

[LaydeeBug]

1. Off to the Greatest with this...such a good point

[uponit7771]

2. Thx, had to get my denormalizing of Benedict Donald's mindset into my sphere of influence this week

[LaydeeBug]

3. Yep. This is not normal.

[LibraLiz1973]

4. Nailed it.

Recd.

[betsuni]

5. K&R

[FDRsGhost]

6. Amen!

[Worktodo]

7. investigate police training

Really have to wonder if there is any emphasis put on conflict resolution training.

[HughBeaumont]

8. Appeal to moderation.

Always amazes me how conservatives are willing to "see both sides" when authoritarians do something reprehensible to a marginalized group but magically toss that accommodation out when it comes to, say, capitalism's victims needing help.

[dalton99a]

10. +1.

[uponit7771]

17. +1

[BlueMTexpat]

44. I cannot recommend this

enough!

[IronLionZion]

9. It's even the victim's fault when the white supremacist went to NY to stab a black man

There was a lot posted about the victim's history to let us know he deserved a completely random public execution in the street.



For the police issue, they don't want us to question authority. Even DUers of all races say we should just quietly obey the officers and take it to court later. Completely missing the point that we wouldn't even know about it or be discussing the matter if it hadn't gone down so completely wrong.

All airlines (except maybe United) are reviewing their processes to prevent this from happening and promote the idea of happy customers. I flew United last month only because it was the cheapest flight for the time and airports that I wanted. I was worried more about TSA groping me or CBP trying to get in my phone. Now I have to worry about getting beat up too?

[dalton99a]

11. That was despicable

[HughBeaumont]

12. It's like what happened to Tamir Rice.

The nation's white (mostly) guys looked for any excuse to blame a 12 year old that was committing no crime in a relatively empty park for his own drive-up murder at the hands of an incompetent and unstable police officer.

THEY NEVER ONCE BLAMED THE COP. They didn't even inconvenience Timothy Loehmann or Frank Garmback with a trial.

[IronLionZion]

13. White guys point loaded guns at cops and live to do it again

and again and again

But a 12 year old child playing in a park deserves execution even though white children have always played with toy guns without being assumed to be dangerous criminals

[rtracey]

14. my question

My questions, and perhaps they have been answered, and I missed it, is.... Why did they go to him to be removed, there was a plane full of people, why him... was he on a no fly list?, did he start something that was not in the video? He was just an ordinary passenger that was randomly picked to be taken off the plane? hmmmm ok

[Fla Dem]

15. Evidently there is a computer program the airline uses that selects the passengers

based on algorithms.

al·go·rithm
ˈalɡəˌriT͟Həm/
noun
plural noun: algorithms
a process or set of rules to be followed in calculations or other problem-solving operations, especially by a computer.

[LakeArenal]

18. So " they " say...

I'd like to see a printout of the request for deboarding at random.

[tavalon]

40. Most likely based on what you paid, when you got on and surely, surely, not your name.

Which one is the sarcasm smiley. It's been a while.

[athena]

19. His only fault is that he was chosen to be tossed off the plane.

You can see the problem. If United had accepted his refusal, then other people would have seen that and concluded that they could also simply refuse to get off the plane. United didn't want to set a precedent. They put themselves in a situation where they couldn't accept no as an answer and therefore had to physically force the guy out. There are many problems with this, but the deepest one, IMO, is a lack of respect on the part of United for its customers.

[athena]

27. The passenger has every right to refuse illegal orders.

This has been discussed to death, but you don't seem to be listening. Welcome to ignore.

[7962]

37. Still surprised no one changed their mind and offered to take the 800 & leave that guy on.

Although if I were there, I would have taken it to start with. I TRY to book flights most likely to be overbooked. I've had great offers from Delta many times. Sometimes its a stampede to the counter when they announce it.
But United really screwed this whole situation badly

[tavalon]

41. Orrex, you are a high number poster

Don't blow your wad on this! No, really. You are on the wrong side, which, in politics, is a rare thing, to have a right and a wrong side, but here we have it. You're obfuscating and apparently, wasting people's time. At least that's what I'm getting from the frustration being expressed toward you.

Why don't you assume that everyone who wants to hear your point of view has heard it and to beat this surprisingly personal for you dead horse is wasting bandwidth?

I don't ban, nor threaten to ban, but I can't pretend to not notice your lack of reasoned judgement here. How is this personal for you? I figure it must be for you to have hit every thread about it.

[Orrex]

46. I have been convinced of my error and will be posting no further on it (nt)

[uponit7771]

47. Progressive Post Of The Morning !!!! :-)

[BlueMTexpat]

45. Once a paying passenger has been boarded,

seated, and is not causing a disturbance that is harmful to others, s/he has every right to expect that the airline will honor its contract with him/her - failing an emergency situation - which this was not. Period. The only disturbance resulted from the passenger's forcible removal.

Basically, what you are saying is that an airline can unilaterally decide to remove any passenger at any time, no matter what the justification. You basically see the "contract" only and always to be interpreted as the airline wishes. That is not contract law, but blackmail.

The airline was at fault, likely not so much in its decision - depending on how the decision was actually made, but in its timing and certainly in its execution of that decision.

[TransitJohn]

35. Because he would cost United the least in

IDB (Involuntarily Denied Boarding) compensation, probably because he was flying on a very discounted fare.

[SCVDem]

16. This is a byproduct of the Republican doctrine

FEAR! Be Afraid!

If the authorities are doing something, it's to keep YOU safe, so don't ever question authority!

Now don't you feel safer that a non-white passenger was removed?

He must have done something wrong!

Now sue their overly violent asses off!

[uponit7771]

23. Yep

[Raster]

20. ABSOLUTELY! Victim shaming has NO PLACE ON DU...

...Nor does acquiescence to authoritative bullshit.

[world wide wally]

21. Is America great again now?

When did the customer stop being right?

[uponit7771]

24. Ikr !?!?

[mcar]

22. +1000!

I'm disgusted to see victim blaming here.

[Lifelong Protester]

25. I'm so disgusted I put someone on ignore over this.

[athena]

28. I've put perhaps 50 on ignore.

I know it's crazy, but I can't take the hatred any more. I want my DU to be made up exclusively of people who display empathy and compassion.

[Angry Dragon]

30. here is alink to United's COC

https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/contract-of-carriage.aspx?Mobile=1

[uponit7771]

31. +1,

[tavalon]

42. a contract that, and let's be honest here, none of us read before this week

and most of us here have read this week.

[malaise]

32. Great post

Rec

[keithbvadu2]

33. It does not matter the victim or officer's background.

It does not matter the victim or officer's background.

The fault/blame lies wholly on United who assigned the removal to be done.

Why did they let the doctor on the plane?

Don't say United did not know.

They control the gate and can count.

[uponit7771]

34. "They control the gate and can count"

[keithbvadu2]

36. Almost counter-intuitive or contradictory, ain't it?

Almost counter-intuitive or contradictory, ain't it?

[uponit7771]

38. +1

[tavalon]

43. Awesome. Pithy and correct. Gotta love it!

[AgadorSparticus]

39. +1,000!!! Yessssss!!!! You nailed it!!