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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI just heard Ari Fleisher on CNN ...
... telling Paul Begala, who called Trump a pathological liar, that such statements are simply an attempt to undermine the Trump presidency.
Since when does pointing out the continual stream of lies coming out of Trumps mouth, and the mouths of his spokespeople, an attempt to do anything other than the obvious i.e. point out the lies?
It is Trumps lies that have undermined his own pResidency from day one literally. Are we supposed to forget that the Idiots first days in office consisted of a barrage of lies about the size of his Inauguration crowd, where we were told not to believe our own lyin eyes and instead accept that a brazillion people showed up?
Are we meant to ignore the lies about Trump having won the popular vote, or the lies about millions of illegals having voted in the last election?
Are we supposed to pretend we never heard Trump lie about Obama tapping his wires, a claim that was immediately and thoroughly debunked by the FBI and the DoJ? How about the current lies about Susan Rices criminal activities, which have been proven to be completely legal activities carried out as a normal course of her job?
Seriously, Ari, do you not understand the simple premise that when someone lies repeatedly, continuously, and somewhat laughingly it is the LIAR who is undermining his own credibility, and not the people who notice the lies and comment on them? Do you not appreciate that when a liar is called a liar, its about the lies and not about some nefarious conspiracy to cast them in some negative light for political purposes?
Jesus Hussein Christ. When a pathological liar who Trump has repeatedly proven himself to be gets called-out on his lies, thats democracy in action, Ari.
If Trump and his cohorts dont want to be undermined by their own lies, theres a simple way to end that: Stop telling lies. NO lies told means NO lies to be pointed out, focused-on, highlighted, opined upon, discussed, and/or laughed at for their sheer stupidity.
Get it now, Ari? What youre preaching is akin to telling people that we should simply accept lies as the truth, lest any questioning of those lies be construed as, uh, questioning those lies and heaven forefend that any American do so.
Apparently, you think the citizenry should re-accommodate the truth by embracing alternative facts.
BTW, whats your position on the Bowling Green Massacre? I wouldnt want to think you questioned that particular lie which could be seen as undermining the administration you feel should never be questioned under any circumstances. So Im curious as to where you stand on the issue. How about the millions of illegals who voted last November any thoughts on that?
Just wonderin, Ari wonderin how far you, and other Trumpsters, are willing to sink by saying that lies arent really lies and if they are lies, we should all ignore them in order to support the lying liar who tells them.
Txbluedog
(1,128 posts)AwakeAtLast
(14,132 posts)No!
skylucy
(3,739 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)UGH. Hate him so much. But he lies very easily and doesn't appear to have a conscience. He'd probably be a good fit with this team of deconstructors.
Cattledog
(5,916 posts)Ari said this after 9-11 in an attempt to intimidate the press.
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)He is lying.
Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)herding cats
(19,565 posts)Ari Fleisher: "Anytime James Carville, Paul Begala and David Axelrod hold hands and jump for joy, it's worth pondering how to turn their joy into tears."
He's partisan to the bone, and always on Team GOP. Which now puts him fully onboard the Trump train by association. It's who he is now and has always been.
Cha
(297,323 posts)LAIR.
Oh and a fucking asshole.
world wide wally
(21,745 posts)OldRedneck
(1,397 posts)Breaking news: Bill O'Lielly announces he's "going on vacation" for a few days.
Rumors are Murdoch wants O'Lielly off the air. Couldn't happen to a more-deserving guy.
Beartracks
(12,816 posts)LIES aren't the problem, dammit! POINTING OUT THE LIES is the problem!
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Ilsa
(61,695 posts)Ari F. is nuts.
oasis
(49,392 posts)away from his presidential duties, is an indictment in itself.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,015 posts)Ari -
brer cat
(24,578 posts)for getting "re-accommodate" in there.
K&R
kentuck
(111,104 posts)she just opened a big can of whoop ass on the kingdom of liars residing in Washington. They would have people believe that lies do not matter?
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I honestly believe they don't recognize "a lie". I honestly believe they are delusional....sick - mentally sick bastards.
This is a cluster of sociopaths that are unable to see any error in their ways and thus are unable to apologize for their evil deeds, because they don't see it. Seriously. They are sick sociopaths. Unable to see reality and need a lobotomy to return to the real world.
I won't go on. You get the gest. They should get pity, but I can only loathe these sick bastards. And fleisher is one very sick, low-life bastard.
spanone
(135,846 posts)madamesilverspurs
(15,805 posts)if he acknowledges that Trump lies, he'd pretty much have to admit that his former bosses weren't exactly paragons of honesty. WMDs, anyone?
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ck4829
(35,077 posts)No matter what 'it' may be.
treestar
(82,383 posts)Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)I was expecting to hear Fleischer be a loyal bushevik and attack dRumpf, and getting ready to say 'I still hate Ari, anyhow.' It's a real relief that I don't have to add that 'anyhow' part.
treestar
(82,383 posts)the Donald "Presidency?"
nikibatts
(2,198 posts)He should have said to Ari, "I have proof that he is a pathological liar. Where is your proof that he is not?"
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)argyl
(3,064 posts)Fuck him.