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Ivanka 'pushed for her father to bomb Syria' (Original Post) struggle4progress Apr 2017 OP
It's nice to know SCROTUS has a real foreign policy expert who can offer advice The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2017 #1
Guess she no longer has to worry about being (just) complicit. tanyev Apr 2017 #2
Thank Goodness Americans Voted Her INto Office Me. Apr 2017 #3
So maybe we got our first female president after all. (n/t) thesquanderer Apr 2017 #31
And Here WE Were Thinking HRC Would Make An Excellent Prez Me. Apr 2017 #34
Bwahahaha! Ligyron Apr 2017 #46
don't think you bdamomma Apr 2017 #66
Well, I know that makes me feel so much better ... meadowlark5 Apr 2017 #4
Fashion designer? Retrograde Apr 2017 #79
Can hardly wait... nancy1942 Apr 2017 #5
no, no... its the SON's turn next... yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #12
You just don't understand the royal succession in Trumpland. She's the Crown Princess... Hekate Apr 2017 #35
got that right! yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #37
The Kushner miniature poodle named Bow Wow wants to bomb Mexico next week. nt magicarpet Apr 2017 #58
How silly of me! Rhiannon12866 Apr 2017 #83
And that doesn't strike anybody (except for probably us) Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #6
Why IssuesOverParties Apr 2017 #22
Another troubling question........ Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2017 #24
Interesting user-name, given all we've endured this past year or two. Welcome to DU. Hekate Apr 2017 #36
Another knee-jerk reaction, like Daddy would do, Ilsa Apr 2017 #84
Because they are more politically astute than the other clowns Amishman Apr 2017 #87
And what if . . . gratuitous Apr 2017 #33
Oh lord. Carter Johnson girl Apr 2017 #7
I really can't stand her. Kath2 Apr 2017 #51
great.... dhill926 Apr 2017 #8
but not to accept refugees ? JI7 Apr 2017 #9
That's the REAL obvious question...just leave them there Alice11111 Apr 2017 #27
the trump regime bdamomma Apr 2017 #67
That will be the test, with the fallout to come, does he Alice11111 Apr 2017 #68
Who knows? Eyeball_Kid Apr 2017 #10
Maybe Ivanka consulted with a horoscope. LenaBaby61 Apr 2017 #40
Just you wait, guys - tsuukiyomi Apr 2017 #11
THEY really must think its a reality tv show... yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #15
No one should give a damn what this airhead thniks. Kath2 Apr 2017 #13
Could you imagine what the Republicans would have thought yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #16
Damn right, sister! Kath2 Apr 2017 #18
Alex Jones's head would have exploded... yuiyoshida Apr 2017 #20
Fucking amateurs and fucking nihilists jeanmarc Apr 2017 #14
Yes. warmfeet Apr 2017 #55
So it has come to this. mac56 Apr 2017 #17
If this is true, it's terrifying. democrank Apr 2017 #19
Uh, yeah, Dad... How about you bomb Syria while I get my hair done? Eyeball_Kid Apr 2017 #21
About right. Kath2 Apr 2017 #23
Bombing on an emotional whim. democratisphere Apr 2017 #25
What in the actual fuck. onecaliberal Apr 2017 #26
the irony is so thick with this administration. JHan Apr 2017 #28
The Trump Family Wet Dream reality show needs to be canceled. Now. Solly Mack Apr 2017 #29
Please daddy, please bomb Syria. It would be OldHippieChick Apr 2017 #30
Bring me John the Baptists head NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #42
Did she do the seductress NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #61
You nailed it Retrograde Apr 2017 #80
Love it. Kath2 Apr 2017 #54
How many votes did she get in November? George II Apr 2017 #32
Apparently it was a package deal. Hekate Apr 2017 #39
I thought Putin was calling the shots? NamesDave Apr 2017 #38
He is my friend. NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #43
Yikes! Who is making foreign policy here? bucolic_frolic Apr 2017 #41
I keep saying, "It can't get any weirder," but it does. VOX Apr 2017 #44
Daddy, bring me the head of John the Baptist... Drahthaardogs Apr 2017 #45
Now Ivanka is a military logistics Corgigal Apr 2017 #47
She needs to stick with shopping. Kath2 Apr 2017 #52
Country run by the more evil NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #48
If she said to push the big red button would he? Demtexan Apr 2017 #49
What qualifications does bling queen have to make such a recommendation? keithbvadu2 Apr 2017 #50
Look at the bottom of the article/puff piece. keithbvadu2 Apr 2017 #53
The fact he uses her as a shield Lyricalinklines Apr 2017 #56
Clearly, her geopolitical strategy expertise C_U_L8R Apr 2017 #57
Right? That shit she peddles is just plain ugly! n/t Still In Wisconsin Apr 2017 #78
A cable to Theresa May from britian ambassador to Kim Darroch about a memo? Wtf?? jmg257 Apr 2017 #59
What the hell is this person doing influencing policy? Kath2 Apr 2017 #60
Kremlin Kushner & Princess I NewRedDawn Apr 2017 #62
I don't agree with, or care for this narrative WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #63
I have been reading this and can understand she got no votes but................... Jim Beard Apr 2017 #69
I would rather not have any of them. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #72
she is part of the administration. this is about blaming her for her own actions JI7 Apr 2017 #70
What actions should she be blamed for? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #71
this ins't about fucking tweets , she publicly supports his disgusting ass JI7 Apr 2017 #73
There are many deplorable people who support his disgusting ass. WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #74
bs, IVanka is part of the admin. i blame her like i blame bannon and all the rest of the shit JI7 Apr 2017 #75
Do you honestly believe that she holds any power? WomenRising2017 Apr 2017 #76
HAHAHAHAH JI7 Apr 2017 #77
This incoherent bdamomma Apr 2017 #64
Primping & exfoliating while she advocates for the shredding of others' flesh. She is a demon. (n/t) FreepFryer Apr 2017 #65
Sure. LOL! Tortmaster Apr 2017 #81
Oh, pleeeeeze daddy! Bomb Syria for me? - Anything for you, my sweet little boobees. Kablooie Apr 2017 #82
Someone said 4 additional kids died because of the bombing, but whatever makes Ivanka feel good. Vinca Apr 2017 #85
"I Vanka, vant to be alone..." - I Vanka (RR) Achilleaze Apr 2017 #86

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
1. It's nice to know SCROTUS has a real foreign policy expert who can offer advice
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:24 PM
Apr 2017

on military action when she's not hawking handbags and cheap Chinese-made clothing.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
34. And Here WE Were Thinking HRC Would Make An Excellent Prez
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 07:41 PM
Apr 2017

When we could've had Ivanka right from the start

bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
66. don't think you
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 10:12 PM
Apr 2017

are off the mark with that comment, I heard 45 was getting her (Ivanka) and her husband to take over the reins, this is no fucking royal family. Taking their cues from Uncle Vlad Putin.

meadowlark5

(2,795 posts)
4. Well, I know that makes me feel so much better ...
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:27 PM
Apr 2017

A fashion designer advising the president on military issues. Though camouflage is in style for fashion wear this season, I see.

Retrograde

(10,137 posts)
79. Fashion designer?
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 02:07 AM
Apr 2017

More likely a fashion-name-putter-oner. I doubt she actually designed any of the dreck she puts her name on.

Hekate

(90,708 posts)
35. You just don't understand the royal succession in Trumpland. She's the Crown Princess...
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 07:52 PM
Apr 2017

...and Jared is the Prince Consort. That means she succeeds her father's throne. Uday and Qusay are off running the moneymaking enterprises and reporting back to the ruling trio.

Don't you remember what the ballot loked like last November?
(D) Hillary Clinton
(R) The Trumps: Donald, Ivanka, and Jared. Buy one, get two free.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
83. How silly of me!
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 03:26 AM
Apr 2017

My mind was made up, so I didn't even bother looking at all those other names on the ticket! No wonder they got votes! It sounded like a bargain to the uninformed...

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
6. And that doesn't strike anybody (except for probably us)
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:28 PM
Apr 2017

Last edited Sun Apr 9, 2017, 07:11 PM - Edit history (1)

As being problematic to anybody else- that the most influential people in Trump's circle are not his actual foreign policy and military officials but rather his daughter and son-in-law? Why is this being normalized? What will they convince him to do next???

Amishman

(5,557 posts)
87. Because they are more politically astute than the other clowns
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 08:31 AM
Apr 2017

It changed the media lead story, was largely well received by both parties in congress, and was low risk. These two are also responsible for Trump dialing back and largely staying on message during the last month of the campaign.

They are dangerous because they can control Trump somewhat and are not idiots.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
33. And what if . . .
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 07:37 PM
Apr 2017

What happens when Jared or Ivanka give Big Daddy bad advice? I mean, worse than impotently firing missiles at a runway. What if Trump goes along with some hare-brained idea and it goes horribly, disastrously wrong? Is Trump going to fire his daughter or son-in-law? There are so many ways this is going to go wrong.

7. Oh lord.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:30 PM
Apr 2017

And still, some folks defend Ivanka as being 'nice' and 'a good person'--including even a few fellow Democrats.

Ugh. If you want to make yourself look kind, surround yourself with assholes.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
68. That will be the test, with the fallout to come, does he
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 10:25 PM
Apr 2017

Protect those babies, take them in, or leave them to be bombed?
If I had to bet my life, sorry babies.
Inhumane.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
10. Who knows?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:34 PM
Apr 2017

Maybe Ivanka consulted with a horoscope before flipping a coin and Doing hand-rock-scissors with her father.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
40. Maybe Ivanka consulted with a horoscope.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 07:57 PM
Apr 2017

Nancy's astrologer Joan Quigley is no longer with us, so she wouldn't be able to consult her.

I think Ivanka just pulled this decision out of her ass--that's assuming that I really did believe that she had anything to do with what I believe is nothing moe than a Kabuki air strike between tRumputin and his puppet master/blackmailer putin.

It's so reassuring to know that Ivanka (Yeah, riiiiight), is running our foreign policy

tsuukiyomi

(20 posts)
11. Just you wait, guys -
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:37 PM
Apr 2017

Kim Jong-Un will request an audience with the television viewers of America.

With bated breath, the nation watches.

He opens his mouth, and says -

"Have you seen Ivanka's line? My wife thinks it's to die for."

My god, sometimes it appears as if the sole reason Ivanka is in her position is to promote her business, and yet, people think she'll somehow be able to reign in Putin's lapdog.

yuiyoshida

(41,831 posts)
16. Could you imagine what the Republicans would have thought
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:43 PM
Apr 2017

if one of the President Obama's daughter had requested we take military action some where? They would be HOWLING at the moon with blood on their faces!

Kath2

(3,074 posts)
18. Damn right, sister!
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:47 PM
Apr 2017

They would have gone fucking crazy. And Fox News and hate radio would have lost their minds!

jeanmarc

(1,685 posts)
14. Fucking amateurs and fucking nihilists
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:40 PM
Apr 2017

These people really believe in nothing and have no knowledge.

We are in trouble.

democrank

(11,095 posts)
19. If this is true, it's terrifying.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:51 PM
Apr 2017

"Pushed" for her father to bomb Syria? What is she the boss of now? Maybe all war and peace decisions have to go through her office?

Two thirty-somethings running the country while Trump golfs and tweets. Perfect.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
21. Uh, yeah, Dad... How about you bomb Syria while I get my hair done?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 06:59 PM
Apr 2017

My best friend is coming over and we're going to go shopping for matching tank tops.

Kath2

(3,074 posts)
23. About right.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 07:03 PM
Apr 2017

I got flamed for dissing her but if little billionaire princess is making policy she should be held accountable.

Solly Mack

(90,769 posts)
29. The Trump Family Wet Dream reality show needs to be canceled. Now.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 07:27 PM
Apr 2017

The executive producers and producers should be destroyed.

The co-directors, literally, should be buried under the rubble of all their failures.

The star and co-stars should be forever wiped from history.

And the casting company should be exiled into space.

But that's just me and I get a little ticked at times.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
30. Please daddy, please bomb Syria. It would be
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 07:29 PM
Apr 2017

such a nice birthday present for me. I'm so excited you can do this daddy.

This is what has become of American foreign policy.

bucolic_frolic

(43,173 posts)
41. Yikes! Who is making foreign policy here?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 08:02 PM
Apr 2017

Jimmy Carter was maligned for asking Daughter Amy's opinion

Here we have complete derogation of duty to unelected, unappointed family member

WHO is in charge?

VOX

(22,976 posts)
44. I keep saying, "It can't get any weirder," but it does.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 08:34 PM
Apr 2017

All this insane shit is so incredibly off the tracks, it's amazing that the country still functions. Unless that's just its corpse twitching a bit before rigor mortis sets in.

Shaking my damn head so hard it'd make Scot Spicer hyperventilate.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
47. Now Ivanka is a military logistics
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 08:51 PM
Apr 2017

Mastermind. When did her sweet ass serve? Cause this sweet ass on the other side of this computer did a I would prefer someone calling the shots that has a basic understanding of our military capability.

Doesn't she have a DVR show that she needs to catch up on, and leave the intelligence to the intelligent.

Demtexan

(1,588 posts)
49. If she said to push the big red button would he?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 08:55 PM
Apr 2017

I was hoping better for my old age.

Someone who steals designs dealing with bombing places.

That proves her Father is not charge of anything.

keithbvadu2

(36,816 posts)
53. Look at the bottom of the article/puff piece.
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 09:03 PM
Apr 2017

Look at the bottom of the article/puff piece.

"The military campaign has been praised internationally as well as by Democrats and liberal media outlets."

Lyricalinklines

(367 posts)
56. The fact he uses her as a shield
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 09:23 PM
Apr 2017

and that she continues to be complicit in such an abusive triangle is evidence of bigger problems in their lives. Unfortunately, we the people are witnesses to their patriarchal, misogynistic cycles. As well, the rest of the world is affected.

All. Around. Sad. And. Sick.

He didn't do this for anyone but himself.

And it's regrettable so many media have decided he's now someone deserving of praise. This just feeds his narcissism and constant need for stroking.

Kath2

(3,074 posts)
60. What the hell is this person doing influencing policy?
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 09:41 PM
Apr 2017
http://nypost.com/2017/04/08/ivanka-may-have-convinced-her-dad-to-bomb-syria/

Apparently, some people here are angry about any criticism of her, but if she wants to be a decision maker she takes it on.

I can't stand her. Spoiled little billionaire brat.

She wouldn't ever want to trade one minute of her life for one of mine. Poor little princess. Let's all get with the program and let her decide who to fucking bomb!
 

WomenRising2017

(203 posts)
63. I don't agree with, or care for this narrative
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 10:04 PM
Apr 2017

This need to find blame in women, for mistakes of men needs to stop.

Donald Trump doesn't listen to anyone. He always acts on his own, facts and wisdom be damned.

Twisting tweets by his daughter, into policy advising, is absurd and frankly sexist.

The Syrian bombing was a desperate act by Donald Trump, in an attempt to redeem his popularity.

He failed, spectacularly.

That is on him, not his daughter.

 

Jim Beard

(2,535 posts)
69. I have been reading this and can understand she got no votes but...................
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 10:49 PM
Apr 2017

I had much rather have hers and Jarrids slightly more liberal influence than Flynn, or Bannon

 

WomenRising2017

(203 posts)
72. I would rather not have any of them.
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 12:10 AM
Apr 2017

None of them should be anywhere near the White House.

It's disturbing that as little as 70,000 voters thought Trump was a good option for President.

But, blaming Trump's daughter for his ineptitude is just not right.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
70. she is part of the administration. this is about blaming her for her own actions
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 11:57 PM
Apr 2017

she takes part in all the meetings and shit.

 

WomenRising2017

(203 posts)
71. What actions should she be blamed for?
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 12:06 AM
Apr 2017

Sorry, but I don't care to speculate on her actions based on tweets.

I'm saving my blame for where it belongs, and that is with Donald Trump.

Having Donald scapegoat his daughter, is beyond creepy, even for him.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
73. this ins't about fucking tweets , she publicly supports his disgusting ass
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 12:19 AM
Apr 2017

sits in all the meetings .

creepy is his attraction to his daughter.

 

WomenRising2017

(203 posts)
74. There are many deplorable people who support his disgusting ass.
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 12:32 AM
Apr 2017

But he is the one in charge.

Sorry, but I'm not interested in fighting his offspring, when he is the one who holds all the power. My fight is with him, and Bannon.

Fighting Ivanka is just as absurd as those who want to fight Chelsea. It makes no sense.

JI7

(89,250 posts)
75. bs, IVanka is part of the admin. i blame her like i blame bannon and all the rest of the shit
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 12:33 AM
Apr 2017

and i blame fucking trump also..

you came on here just to defend her . hahahah.

 

WomenRising2017

(203 posts)
76. Do you honestly believe that she holds any power?
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 12:49 AM
Apr 2017

I'm not defending her, per se, but I'm tired of misogyny towards all women. And that's what I'm seeing here.

So much ire, directed at Ivanka, but not as much towards Bannon, Sessions, Tillerson, and more importantly, Donald Trump.

Why is she the target, when it's the above mentioned men doing all of the damage?





bdamomma

(63,868 posts)
64. This incoherent
Sun Apr 9, 2017, 10:08 PM
Apr 2017

inexperienced POS 45 is taking advice from his daughter who does not has a shred of experience in foreign affairs or diplomacy. The whole family is effed up.

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
86. "I Vanka, vant to be alone..." - I Vanka (RR)
Mon Apr 10, 2017, 08:03 AM
Apr 2017

"...with my money, my daddy, my republican-russian besties, and my adoring fashion devotees."


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