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He just quietly fixed the economy and stopped torturing people.
Different Drummer
(7,630 posts)He never seems to tire of talking about it.
Docreed2003
(16,869 posts)To deflect from his total incompetence. He's totally out of his league and has no idea what's involved in the job of president. (I know you know that...just adding to your thought)
caroldansen
(725 posts)bdamomma
(63,917 posts)spanone
(135,857 posts)he's onedumbfuck
malaise
(269,144 posts)Groper Don the Con - I like
madokie
(51,076 posts)is full of Class, tRump not so much. As KO said of him, he's a punk
For the record tRump inherited a most robust economy compared to the last few transitions
malaise
(269,144 posts)LOL Lib
(1,462 posts)that he walked into the job knowing more than the generals and that "he alone could fix it."
So shut up Donnie. It's time to shit or get off the pot. Translation: if you can't handle the job, it's time to step down.
malaise
(269,144 posts)If stupidfuck didn't know that health care is complicated, how the fuck can he fix anything
He is BIGLY omniscient except when he's not. "Who knew? Oh well it's Obama's fault!"
You know, I fantasize about making a yearly pilgrimage to piss on the pussy grabber's grave after he dies, but I can't for fear that he would enjoy it.
malaise
(269,144 posts)Remember he apparently loves golden showers
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Trump? Not so much. If there has ever been a person less prepared by any measure you care to name (experience, intelligence, disposition, personal history, political chops) to assume the presidency than Donald J. Trump, I'd be interested to hear about it. Be prepared to defend your argument against a withering assault.
malaise
(269,144 posts)He knows nothing about anything but believes he knows everything.
That's my description of a jackass and I detest jackasses.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)He also has the ability and the willingness to govern. The Whiner In Chief needs to blame somebody for his incompetence.
mnhtnbb
(31,399 posts)which was truly a mess, here is his address to Congress in February 2009.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/02/24/sotn.obama.transcript/
For example:
The weight of this crisis will not determine the destiny of this nation. The answers to our problems don't lie beyond our reach. They exist in our laboratories and our universities, in our fields and our factories, in the imaginations of our entrepreneurs and the pride of the hardest-working people on Earth.
Those qualities that have made America the greatest force of progress and prosperity in human history we still possess in ample measure. What is required now is for this country to pull together, confront boldly the challenges we face, and take responsibility for our future once more.
Now, if we're honest with ourselves, we'll admit that for too long we have not always met these responsibilities, as a government or as a people. I say this not to lay blame or to look backwards, but because it is only by understanding how we arrived at this moment that we'll be able to lift ourselves out of this predicament.
The fact is, our economy did not fall into decline overnight. Nor did all of our problems begin when the housing market collapsed or the stock market sank.
We have known for decades that our survival depends on finding new sources of energy, yet we import more oil today than ever before.
The cost of health care eats up more and more of our savings each year, yet we keep delaying reform.
Our children will compete for jobs in a global economy that too many of our schools do not prepare them for.
And though all of these challenges went unsolved, we still managed to spend more money and pile up more debt, both as individuals and through our government, than ever before.
In other words, we have lived through an era where too often short-term gains were prized over long-term prosperity, where we failed to look beyond the next payment, the next quarter, or the next election.
Sentence in bold is my highlight.
And here is the truth of the state of the economy which Trump inherited.
This is not to say that there arent problems. Economic growth has been below potential, and many workers are still suffering from disproportionately high unemployment, particularly African-Americans, Hispanics and people with less education.
But all in all, Trump inherited a strengthening economy that just needs a little help and specific interventions to help a wider swath of Americans share more quickly in the continuing economic gains.
So why would he want to make you think its a mess? The most likely reason, in my view, is that portraying the current state of the economy as rotten helps the administration justify the wholesale change in policies that it is planning. It also lowers the starting bar so that its easier to declare victory later.
But the economic policies that he has suggested, including most of his tax cuts he mentioned in his Feb. 28 speech to Congress, would jeopardize the solid economic gains made in the Obama era. To see why, lets examine just what Obama left on Trumps doorstep.
http://www.salon.com/2017/03/04/the-truth-about-obamas-economic-legacy-and-trumps-inheritance_partner/
Trump's accusation of "a mess"? Just another lie from the con man.
MyOwnPeace
(16,937 posts)PRESIDENT Obama highlighted the problems, assigned no blame, and promised to do what was needed to correct them.
THEN, look at what LIAR-IN-CHIEF does!
Drumpf has no class whatsoever, and wouldn't know it if it came up and grabbed HIM in the...............
That's what one side heard.
The other side heard the comments about "adults," about "making others eat their peas," and about not giving keys to those who "ran the economy into the ditch." It was the worst financial situation in decades; it was the result of their policies.
He assigned blame.
But one side only heard the blame. The other side only remembers the "I've compromised" and "I'm not assigning blame" rhetoric. At the time, a lot of progressives/(D) saw Obama's comments as red meat and went for it. Now that it's difficult to reconcile with what we need, it's easy to overlook it.
Even at the time there was a bit of a dichotomy--many (D) loved the red meat, others didn't even catch its scent--they just saw that Obama said he'd compromised and picked up a lot of (R) ideas, entirely selflessly, and that the (R) lashed out in defiance and racism. Of course, if you talk to any (R) you'd find that they never heard and despised the (R) ideas, often put forward by a single (R) or small group of them years before and utterly rejected by mainstream republicans. But from where we sat, they were obviously long-cherished ideas by most (R). Why? Because it's what we needed.
This is how political discourse is in a polarized society. You can embrace the polarization and further it; or you can resist it, and in so doing both resist Trump and Putin.
malaise
(269,144 posts)Obama got a mess
aikoaiko
(34,183 posts)If you dig up his first press conference in February 9th 2009, he said what he was willing to do to fix the financial crisis and concluded by saying what he wouldn't do is return to the "failed theories of the last 8 years that led us to this mess".
Very decent.
Ilsa
(61,696 posts)Spread the blame around to all the Rs and their distructive policies.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)He doesn't even belong in the same ZIP Code as Obama.
Skittles
(153,174 posts)Obama should have done a much better job letting the American people know EXACTLY the kind of horrific mess the GOP left for him.
Phoenix61
(17,009 posts)While it's great on one level he didn't bash the hell out of the Repubs it left a lot of people thinking it wasn't their fault. We have not done a good job of educating people. Take the high road sounds great but, personally I like "They don't care about people" more.
but I always try to keep keep in mind that Obama, do doubt, had to factor in the "angry black man" syndrome as perceived by conservatives, the way a woman would have to deal with complaints about being "shrill" and "hysterical"
mopinko
(70,178 posts)by the time we all tried to remind these idiots, their mental image of it all was set in concrete.
Vinca
(50,300 posts)Unlike the current Slimeball-In-Chief.
brewens
(13,615 posts)long after Obama was elected. I thought that was pretty amazing. Getting anyone to believe that. Or maybe they just counted on dishonest people grabbing those up?
malaise
(269,144 posts)They repeat any BS spewed by their hacks and ReTHUGs
GP6971
(31,199 posts)he'll blame others. Never him. It will be interesting to see if things really go south if he'll never blame his sons and son-in-law. Never Ivanka.
58Sunliner
(4,390 posts)responsibility of an economic collapse of epic proportions that were contributed to and caused by the policies of previous administrations. It is part of why the narrative was controlled by repugs. There was not enough of an effort to ascribe the truth and responsibility. It is why people elected him. They wanted the truth. Truth to the power that had ripped America off. It is a disservice to history. And ultimately one man can not take responsibility for all that needed to be addressed. It has nothing to do with being a gentleman and everything to do with leading and informing the people. Here is where we are, and this is how we got there. This is what we need to do. These are the policies that failed us. Failed you. Lives were lost, billions of dollars were lost, homes, jobs, people committed suicide hopeless. We needed him to acknowledge how we got there and who was responsible.
juxtaposed
(2,778 posts)One could say, Yes he did throw it back at bush
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Obama was responsible for Sept 11,
Pearl harbor,
the Alamo,
and Adam and Eve being thrown out of the Garden.
Among other things.
Did I mention that Obama is also black?
But seriously, recommended.
Zen Democrat
(5,901 posts)davekriss
(4,626 posts)world wide wally
(21,751 posts)lindysalsagal
(20,718 posts)jeanmarc
(1,685 posts)The wars, the recession, Obama constantly reminded us that he inherited that.
Trump's issues are far far easier and he's whining.