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TeamPooka

(24,250 posts)
2. Our last nominee had like 40 years of tax returns released but the guy who didn't release
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 04:44 AM
Apr 2017

any got the White House.
Releasing tax returns, that isn't an issue on our side, just theirs if they don't care.

TeamPooka

(24,250 posts)
7. We are Democrats with ethics. We don't do that. . You are arguing a Republican problem.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:04 PM
Apr 2017

If you think it's a serious problem on our side you are wrong and barking up the wrong tree.

 

fun n serious

(4,451 posts)
8. I agree with you it is a RW problem
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:18 PM
Apr 2017

however, we did have someone compete for the D domination who did NOT release taxes and did not release last FEC from campaign. We must not allow this type to ever e nominated. We must keep our standards high on this.

Rhiannon12866

(205,906 posts)
5. That's what I understood, too, that the Clintons released tax returns as far back as the '70s
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 05:15 AM
Apr 2017

It's something that's been expected of every presidential nominee as far back as Nixon. But Trump feels like he's an exception to every rule and expectation, including putting any business dealings in a "blind trust." He doesn't seem to understand that the president is expected to help the American people, not just take as much as he - and his entire extended adult family - can.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
9. It was BECAUSE Nixon got caught out on his taxes that it became a tradition!
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:22 PM
Apr 2017
Nixon's Failed Effort to Withhold His Tax Returns
Aug 2, 2016 3:04 PM EDT
By Stephen Mihm

In 1952, when he ran as Dwight D. Eisenhower’s vice-presidential candidate. Nixon, then a congressman, got into trouble for a secret campaign fund and divulged detailed information about his family’s finances in response.

In his famous "Checkers speech," in which he painted himself as an American everyman struggling to make ends meet, Nixon called on the Democratic candidates for president and vice president -- Adlai Stevenson and John Sparkman -- to “come before the American people, as I have, and make a complete financial statement as to their financial history." He added: "And if they don’t, it will be an admission that they have something to hide."

Stevenson and Sparkman matched Nixon’s disclosures, but upped the ante. They released 10 years of returns, far more information than Nixon provided, and demanded that the Republican candidates do the same. In response, Eisenhower grudgingly released a summary of his tax returns, but refused to release the actual forms. Nixon, however, refused to release anything related to his taxes, renewing suspicions.

<SNIP>

But then things unraveled. The best account of Nixon’s tax travails comes from the historian Joseph Thorndike. Thanks to a deposition in a civil suit connected to the Watergate burglary in 1973, reporters learned that Nixon had taken a rather unusual tax break in 1969.
https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-08-02/nixon-s-failed-effort-to-withhold-his-tax-returns


Thorndike's account:

JCT Investigation of Nixon’s Tax Returns
Joseph J. Thorndike
February 2016

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In the summer and fall of 1973, Nixon was engulfed by a controversy over his personal taxes. An outsize charitable donation was the proximate cause, but the scandal expanded to include numerous issues with the returns Nixon had filed between 1968 and 1972. The returns were private, of course, but a series of leaks, combined with informed speculation, gave critics plenty of ammunition. Nixon, it seemed, had played fast and loose with the revenue laws, exploiting his position to minimize taxes and avoid scrutiny from the Internal Revenue Service (IRS).

Nixon’s tax scandal actually prompted one of his most famous public statements, generally thought to refer to Wartergate. "People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook,” he told reporters in November 1973. “Well, I am not a crook."

<SNIP>

Swayed by such arguments, Congress had begun developing legislation in 1969 to limit the value of official paper donations. Attorneys for both Nixon and his predecessor, Lyndon Johnson, urged lawmakers to leave the window open just a bit longer. Nixon and Johnson even discussed the pending legislation directly with one another. Ultimately, however, the Tax Reform Act of 1969 nearly eliminated the deduction, providing specifically that donations made after July 25, 1969 would be limited to the cost of the paper on which the documents were produced.

As Congress moved toward limiting the deduction, Johnson chose not to make a gift before the deadline. Nixon, however, did rush one through. According to “a high White House official” speaking with The Washington Post
, the president had donated 1,176 boxes of papers on March 27, 1969. He subsequently claimed a deduction of “somewhat over $500,000” on his 1969 tax return.

The complete paper is at: http://uschs.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/USCHS-History-Role-Joint-Committee-Taxation-Thorndike.pdf


In the end it was determined that Nixon had not made a "valid gift before the July 25, 1969 deadline." The penalties and interest cost Nixon over half his net worth by the time he paid them.

Despite his own advice to politicians to be upfront with financial information, Nixon could not help but to be a crook.
 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
11. More states should enact this type of legislation for 2020
Tue Apr 4, 2017, 04:07 AM
Apr 2017
The New Jersey Legislature has become what supporters say is the first in the nation to pass a bill that would prevent presidential candidates from appearing on the November ballot unless they disclose their tax returns for the five most recent years before an election.

The Democratic-controlled Assembly passed the measure on Thursday, despite its unproven constitutionality and over objections from Republicans. The vote came three days after the Democrat-controlled Senate did the same.

The bill now heads to Gov. Chris Christie, a Republican, who is likely to veto such an overt knock against President Donald Trump, his longtime friend and political ally whom he has defended on a range of controversial issues, including Trump's refusal to release his tax returns.

But the Assembly’s vote puts New Jersey at the center of a national debate over the ability of state lawmakers to impose requirements on candidates for national office — a debate that many observers predict is headed for the courts.

http://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2017/03/17/nj-first-pass-presidential-tax-return-bill/99279418/
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