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yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:28 AM Apr 2017

Mexico Ready to Play the Corn Card in Trade Talks

The prospect that the United States could lose its largest foreign market for corn and other key products has shaken farming communities throughout the American Midwest, where corn production is a vital part of the economy. The threat is particularly unsettling for many residents of the Corn Belt because much of the region voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Trump in the presidential election.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mexico-ready-to-play-the-corn-card-in-trade-talks/ar-BBzeLyw?li=AA4Zpp&ocid=spartanntp

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Mexico Ready to Play the Corn Card in Trade Talks (Original Post) yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2017 OP
KR! Cha Apr 2017 #1
NAFTA destroyed the corn market in Mexico, so many rural families moved to the US SharonAnn Apr 2017 #29
I know and I think it's great Warpy Apr 2017 #2
Argentina can sell them corn also. Kittycow Apr 2017 #5
Nuthin' I can do about it, ladies and gentlemen - you voted for him; you deal with it. 'Bye now . . NBachers Apr 2017 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author littlemissmartypants Apr 2017 #4
Ya dance with those who brung ya! Kittycow Apr 2017 #6
The joke is on us, too, murielm99 Apr 2017 #12
So many political observers predicted ... NanceGreggs Apr 2017 #7
Same Grain Traders just different Countries. Wellstone ruled Apr 2017 #8
WTF did anyone expect? world wide wally Apr 2017 #9
Stick it to those Trump loving republican farmers Mexico! workinclasszero Apr 2017 #10
how will they get all that corn over the wall? nt msongs Apr 2017 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author TEB Apr 2017 #13
As you make your bed malaise Apr 2017 #14
Not understanding how this works HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author hack89 Apr 2017 #16
I was going to mention something The Big Ragu Apr 2017 #18
Ok, have atlas HoneyBadger Apr 2017 #19
My apologies - I understand your post now. hack89 Apr 2017 #26
Mexico is in the Northern Hemisphere Mendocino Apr 2017 #24
NAFTA allowed (subsidized) American corn farmers to undersell Mexican maize farmers Kolesar Apr 2017 #27
Perhaps the corn farmers may finally understand which side drumpfanov democratisphere Apr 2017 #17
voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Trump HAB911 Apr 2017 #20
You reap what you sow. ananda Apr 2017 #21
Trump will insult them and send more corporate welfare to the factory farms. Vinca Apr 2017 #22
Mexico is a sovereign nation. roamer65 Apr 2017 #23
simple economics sweetapogee Apr 2017 #25
And 97% of Trump voters will vote for him again dalton99a Apr 2017 #28
The Mexican government is considering an increase in domestic production. yortsed snacilbuper Apr 2017 #30

SharonAnn

(13,778 posts)
29. NAFTA destroyed the corn market in Mexico, so many rural families moved to the US
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 04:21 PM
Apr 2017

A large part of the influx of Mexican immigrants after NAFTA was because their livelihoods, corn farming, was destroyed because the US corn was cheaper. With no other jobs in Mexico, many families moved to the us.

In other words, we caused a lot of the immigration.

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
5. Argentina can sell them corn also.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:57 AM
Apr 2017

I'm down with it since I read on DU that Argentina is taking in the refugees that trump and therefore his voters don't want here.

I wonder if the corn farmers will in turn get a government bailout. Those moochers.

Response to yortsed snacilbuper (Original post)

Kittycow

(2,396 posts)
6. Ya dance with those who brung ya!
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:59 AM
Apr 2017

ETA: according to the article, one farmer is going to write trump a sternly worded letter

Idiots. Did these farmer trump supporters not get that NAFTA was their engine for corn exports?

murielm99

(30,755 posts)
12. The joke is on us, too,
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 04:44 AM
Apr 2017

if the agricultural markets here fail, so will many other things.

We are farmers. We are Democrats, activists for Democratic candidates and farmers. We plant corn and beans.

I know at least three other Democratic farmers here who are active Democrats. Farmers in Minnesota are usually Democrats.

Don't be so quick to tar everyone with the same brush.

NanceGreggs

(27,817 posts)
7. So many political observers predicted ...
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 03:00 AM
Apr 2017

... that the first to be hurt by Trump's policies would be those who voted for him.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
8. Same Grain Traders just different Countries.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 03:06 AM
Apr 2017

Yup,they voted for him and like a good Republican he is,he will screw them big time.

Response to msongs (Reply #11)

 

HoneyBadger

(2,297 posts)
15. Not understanding how this works
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 06:06 AM
Apr 2017

When it is summer here (June to September), it is winter there. Ie the growing seasons are opposite. So obviously, the fresh corn market is not what we are talking about. Is this mostly about high fructose corn syrup?

Response to HoneyBadger (Reply #15)

Mendocino

(7,504 posts)
24. Mexico is in the Northern Hemisphere
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 08:14 AM
Apr 2017

same as the US. They too are just finishing winter. When it's summer in the US, it's overwhelmingly hot in Mexico.

Kolesar

(31,182 posts)
27. NAFTA allowed (subsidized) American corn farmers to undersell Mexican maize farmers
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 08:32 AM
Apr 2017

A million maize farmers lost their livelihoods. Half of them moved to the big cities and half of them moved to the United States. Maize and maize flour stores well. Hence, it need not be fresh.

Pardon the snottiness of my long term DU partner.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
17. Perhaps the corn farmers may finally understand which side drumpfanov
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 06:39 AM
Apr 2017

stands on and that the corn farmers don't actually matter. This is YOUR president really screwing you. Further, this is the same illegitimate president that continually bitches about trade deficits.
.

ananda

(28,874 posts)
21. You reap what you sow.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 07:29 AM
Apr 2017

Quite a pun, but anyhow ...

Vote for a sociopathic monster and you
Deserve whatever you get.

As for the rest of us, well, we're the
resistance.

sweetapogee

(1,168 posts)
25. simple economics
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 08:18 AM
Apr 2017

If Mexico were to find a source other than the US that can deliver the quantity of corn at a price level it is willing to pay then there will be a lot of unsold inventory on the world market. This will force the global prices downward even for the suppliers who Mexico uses to fill the gap left by the US. It will be the same effect that increased production of oil by OPEC has had on world oil prices. And just like oil, someone will buy that corn because it will be a bargain.

So I think the end result will be that farmers in other countries will be impacted negatively same as those in the US. The distillers of ethanol and beef ranchers in the Midwest are probably salivating over the possibility of a glut in domestic corn. Should be interesting to watch. Good thread.

dalton99a

(81,569 posts)
28. And 97% of Trump voters will vote for him again
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 08:37 AM
Apr 2017
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/03/22/how-many-trump-voters-really-regret-their-votes/

Of the 339 poll participants who originally voted for Trump, only 12 (3½ percent) said they would do something different.

Only three individuals (fewer than 1 percent of Trump voters) said that, could they go back in time, they would cast their vote for Clinton.

yortsed snacilbuper

(7,939 posts)
30. The Mexican government is considering an increase in domestic production.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 04:43 PM
Apr 2017

Varieties of Mexican corn displayed in Oaxaca.
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