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Baconator

(1,459 posts)
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:29 PM Mar 2017

Is the Gorsuch block a calculated risk?

In addition to answering the needs of the base but with full knowledge that Gorsuch will go through in any case.

Rules get changed and now you only need a majority (51).

Do you believe that the party leadership is banking on the fact that they will take control of either the Senate or House in 2018 and block any further appointments?

It's a calculated risk because if they don't gain either one then the next nominee can be even more to the right than this one.

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Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
1. If the filibuster can;t be used in this case because...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:31 PM
Mar 2017

... of fear it can't be used ever again, then what good is it? So long as the GrOPers have control of the Senate, they can change the rules.

doc03

(35,348 posts)
2. The Republicans will use the nuclear option the next time if they don't
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:34 PM
Mar 2017

have to this time. What can we lose?

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
3. Can they change the rules back to the old system the day before a democratic senate is sworn in?
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:34 PM
Mar 2017

I wouldn't put it past them after North Carolina.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
7. Sure they could.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:00 PM
Mar 2017

But if they're doing it before a Majority leader Chuck Schumer is sworn in, then the rules can be changed again.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
10. The senate sets the rules before each session
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:53 PM
Mar 2017

the majority party comes up with the rules each time and they're confirmed by vote of the senate.

still_one

(92,219 posts)
4. A risk is letting ANY Supreme Court nominee through until we know the full extent of the
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:37 PM
Mar 2017

Russian/trump/republican involvement.

The fact is there is at the minimum a 50% chance that this election was interfered with by the Russians, and perhaps done so with the approval and involvement of the trump administration. The argument McConnell used was that President Obama had no right to nominate a SC justice because this was his last term, Trump has no right to nominate SC justices until we know the full extent of the Russian involvement, and if that means waiting until 2020, so be it.

While there is a good chance that the republicans will remove the filibuster because of this, that will come back and haunt them, and they will rue the day they blocked President Obama's SC nominee, Garland, and removed the filibuster allowance for the SC.

What comes around WILL go around. The countries changing demographics, and the self-destruction that the republicans are doing to themselves and the American people, will NOT be forgotten




bullimiami

(13,099 posts)
5. Its very simple. If you don't approve of the appt you do all you can to block it.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:38 PM
Mar 2017

The rest is bullshit.


msongs

(67,420 posts)
6. expecting repubs to honor their agreements/promises is suicidal. roll over and play dead is not
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:43 PM
Mar 2017

an option.

MFM008

(19,816 posts)
9. They will use the nuke
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:50 PM
Mar 2017

Option regardless. Now or later. Don't bury Ginsburg yet.....she will die in office.

stopwastingmymoney

(2,042 posts)
11. You're making an assumption...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:05 PM
Mar 2017

That they will have the votes to change the rules

I don't think that's a given at all

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