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underpants

(182,829 posts)
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:09 PM Mar 2017

"This is not good, folks. Not good" --- guess who

I posted yesterday my recounting of a certain midday talk radio host's double meltdown.

Today I offer a transcript. I won't post a link but if you're curious it's entitled "Trump Doubles Down — And the Freedom Caucus Makes Him an Offer"

RUSH: Trump has doubled down on his criticism of the Freedom Caucus. Now he’s calling them out by name: Mark Meadows and a couple others. This is not good, folks. Not good. After a football team loses a game, what does the head coach do in the post-game press conference?

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He goes on to trash Trump singling out the Freedom Caucus. What I post below is also transcript- it gives you an glimpse of an idea of the daily nonsense that his listeners take as fact. If you can follow it good for you. They are spinning folks. It's all swirling around too fast.


I thought the Democrats have been assuring us it was just Republicans and probably Russian propaganda that the Obamacare law was unraveling, that it was spiraling down. After all, if Obamacare was really on the rocks, the Democrats would be very eager to fix it, wouldn’t they? Ha-ha-ha-ha. A little sarcasm there. But it does raise the question: Why aren’t Anthem and the rest of the insurance companies pushing the Ryan plan or any of Trump’s reforms?

They had no problems pushing Obamacare like crazy. And if the thing is imploding, if they’re gonna be pulling out, why aren’t they gonna be pushing one of these gigantically great reform plans, hmm? I mean, all these insurance companies were in from day one with Obama. And the main reason for that was Obama guaranteed them a profit by demanding every American buy their stupid product. So if you’re in the business and the federal government passes a law saying every citizen has to buy it or pay a penalty and maybe go to jail, you’d love to be in that business.

And then, if you set up rules where the insurance companies and states don’t have any competition from outside, you can’t lose, except they all are. In a legal circumstance where the insurance companies were set up not to fail, guess what’s happening? (interruption) Damn right I mean not to fail. Okay. Follow this now one more time.

You’re an insurance company, you sell health insurance. The president of the United States wants you to sign on board to help him sell his new health care reform law called Obamacare. The president says to you, “I’m going to mandate that every American buy the product, and I’m gonna make sure that you don’t have any competition from outside the states you’re operating in.”
Who wouldn’t sign up with that? Does that not sound like a guaranteed success path? And yet all of these insurance companies slowly but surely are pulling out of it. And, by the same token, I don’t see any of these insurance companies eagerly embracing the Ryan replacement plan.

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Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
1. I wish people understood the selling across state lines meme is a lie.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:12 PM
Mar 2017

The ONLY reason it is prohibited is to PROTECT the consumer, but trump voters wont hear it

underpants

(182,829 posts)
6. Actually it's not prohibited at all
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:19 PM
Mar 2017

It's perfectly legal. The insurance companies don't do it because it's cost prohibitive. No clients means higher pay rates to hospitals and doctors. How do you get clients? Lower,premiums or more benefits- costs more.

All employer based plans (60%) ARE across state lines. Those are regulated by the Fed Govt. Always have been.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
7. I misspoke, thanks for catching it.
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 11:29 AM
Apr 2017

Remind me why the liar says we dont allow it when we do, something to do with a company not wanting to be subject to a state with tough regs like CA so they operate elsewhere?

underpants

(182,829 posts)
9. No,prob. I wasn't aware of this until very recently
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 12:12 PM
Apr 2017

I always thought they were just speaking for their insurance company donors who want to headquarter their companies in states with specifically lax regulations. Delaware and South Dakota are home to all the major credit cards because they have almost no usury laws.

Or 1209 North Orange Street in Wilmington Del. Home to a ton of corporations due to regulations friendly to them.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
12. Yep, starts the inevitable race to the bottom...
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 02:05 PM
Apr 2017

and consumers lose and have to do their own research to determine which companies are above board/ethical.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
13. The part we are missing is what substance is there to what trump says about
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 05:48 PM
Apr 2017

selling across state lines, implying you cant.

We know he is lying of course, but what exactly is it the greedy corp pricks want that they dont have as to this issue?

It has to do with having to comply with each states regs, so what they want to do is make it so they can sell anywhere but follow the laws of only the state they are based in, I think.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
8. Also, it's about the state insurance commissioners...
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 11:34 AM
Apr 2017

all states have them (I believe) and their job is to regulate anybody who sells insurance within the state lines. In Blue states, at least, that means something.

The demand to "sell across state lines" is a means of dismantling that level of consumer protection and driving everybody to the lowest levels of protection.

Yes, it's already legal, the Ins cos just have to abide by the law.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
11. Yup... my company is in Maryland....
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 01:20 PM
Apr 2017

I live in Indiana. My company's plan works fine here in Indiana. They use a national insurance company.

underpants

(182,829 posts)
4. Yes it was circular
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:59 PM
Mar 2017

That's pretty much what he dies everyday and gets paid a ridiculous amount of money to do it.

PsychoBabble

(837 posts)
3. Not even counting that Ocare was basically a GOP idea to start with ...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 07:50 PM
Mar 2017

Dems didn't REALLY want it, it was a Frankenstein creation based on commercial insurance, trying to make the best of a not great pair of partners -- "universal-ish" coverage, and profit motives.

SIMPLE:

1. Medicare for all. You get to opt in, or ....

2. Go for it on the open market. God be with you ....

 

bagelsforbreakfast

(1,427 posts)
5. This isn't even accurate as far as it goes...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:16 PM
Mar 2017

"Why aren’t Anthem and the rest of the insurance companies pushing the Ryan plan or any of Trump’s reforms?"

Joe Swedish sent a letter to the GOP committees supporting the Ryan plan and calling for more. So the Limburger passed the cheese again.

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