White people are still big fans of Donald Trumps job performance: poll

[workinclasszero]

White people are still big fans of Donald Trump’s job performance: poll
According to a recent poll, Trump's approval rating is abysmal but he still hasn't lost support from his white base
Taylor Link Friday, Mar 31, 2017 5:50 PM EDT

More white Americans than not believe that President Donald Trump has delivered a solid job performance thus far. While Trump’s approval rating has sunk in various polls, The Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research found that Trump is treading above water with white voters.

A majority of white Americans, 53 percent, approve the job Trump is doing, according to the poll. White Americans without a college degree are even more bullish on the president, with 58 percent approve of the work he has done.

http://www.salon.com/2017/03/31/white-people-are-still-big-fans-of-donald-trumps-job-performance-poll/

[Eliot Rosewater]

1. The racist and bigoted and criminal agenda he has presented is why they voted for him.

I am sure they love him more now than ever.

Especially when he fills cabinet positions with the richest and most corrupt people alive.

They see a man willing to endorse their hatred of minorities and they love that.

[ck4829]

2. As long as Muslims, immigrants, refugees, and minorities fare worse than they do...

They would be OK if the US were to revert to a new stone age.

[bdjhawk]

67. don't forget women

As the focus of this thread has become entirely about racism, don't forget the complete and obsessive hatred of women who are probably the top target of these creepy white men in the administration right now.

[whathehell]

73. Thank you..

[ck4829]

75. Absolutely.

[treestar]

89. Very true

"If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you."
~
LYNDON B. JOHNSON, 1960, remark to Bill Moyers, "What a Real President Was Like," Washington Post, 13 November 1988

[drm604]

3. *SOME* white people.

I hate headlines like that. It's not "white people", it's "some white people". We're not all idiots.

[uponit7771]

5. +1

[clarkrd]

13. Wow...

Well thank you for that generalization.

[clarkrd]

17. I guess I missed 'line for trump' last November

at the voting booth that said "white people vote here".


Seriously, this is disgusting.

[clarkrd]

21. Or are you still hiding behind "being one of the good ones""" because you didn't vote for him yourse

Yeah, you make no sense.


Viva la cheesiness!

[whathehell]

39. 20% of Trump voters voted for Obama in 2012..

13% of African-Americans noted for Trump...So much for that "they're all just racists" bs.

[StevieM]

60. The numbers I saw were 8 percent of African-Americans. I don't see how HRC could have

come with in 5 points of him in Georgia--better than Obama did against Romney--if Trump got 13 percent of the Black vote.

[JI7]

61. because he didn't. there was a lot of bs about that. Hillary got white votes that Obama didn't get

also. in the end both were small and cancelled each other out when it comes to advantage.

[StevieM]

64. You should also check out my post just below this one debunking the absurd claim--that it is often

treated as fact--that Trump won 30 percent of the Latino vote.

[whathehell]

71. The number I saw was 13 percent..

Polls differ.

[JHan]

102. No, that 13 percent figure referred to black men, not the total black vote

Considerably less black women voted for trump - all in all, he got 8 % of the black vote.

[whathehell]

108. That would only make the number higher..

since the number of Black women voting for Trump was 6%....I'm not a math major but 13 percent plus six percent makes 19 percent to me.

[JI7]

63. non white voters who voted for Trump are mostly self hating or bigoted against other groups

and it wasn't 20 percent. as steve said below, the claims about how so many obama voters voted trump was mostly bs .

so , Trump voters are still mostly bigots no matter what race they are.

[whathehell]

69. That's just an opinion...

I:m guessing those voters would disagree...
You may find it hard to believe, but many people are concerned with matters other than race and gender.

.

[JI7]

70. they reveal their own bigotry always.

[whathehell]

72. I don't believe anyone in this, or possibly any society, is 100%

bigotry, free, but that doesn't mean it was the driving factor behind their vote.

[treestar]

90. There are always that few African Americans

who are Republican, like Clarence Thomas, Ben Carson, and so on.

That does not mean the white ones aren't racists. They just use those unusual black people as a cover.

[whathehell]

95. It DOES mean that broad brushing white people

is as stupid and erroneous as stereotyping Blacks.

[StevieM]

59. 30 percent of Latinos did not vote for Trump. That claim has been debunked.

http://touch.latimes.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-92304395/

[whathehell]

78. Rejecting broad brush smears is hardly "willful ignorance"

and your assertion to the contrary says more about you than him.

[drm604]

22. So what are you saying?

I'm actually a closet Trump supporter, simply because I'm white? Wow. You have no clue.

Now you'll come back with some other dumb ass clueless insult. Go right ahead if it makes you feel better.

[Crunchy Frog]

19. 53% is a very slight majority. It is not "most".

This post is gross generalization. Not helpful.

[forjusticethunders]

23. "we're more bothered by black people generalizing white racism than white racism"

[Crunchy Frog]

24. Well, if that's how you feel, it's certainly your prerogative.

[clarkrd]

25. Someone needs a big boy nap.

[whathehell]

79. Are you quoting someone?...Who said that?

Oh right...No one.
.

[wellst0nev0ter]

28. Most: the greatest number or the *majority* of a class specified

I guess it's not just Kellyanne who makes up alt facts to fit whatever narrative is in vogue, like white denialism in this case.

[Crunchy Frog]

37. "Most people survive the operation" generally isn't taken to mean

that 47% of patients die from it.

And yes, I do think that there's a difference between "most" as the word is commonly used, and "slightly over half".

If that makes me another Kellyanne Conway in your mind, you certainly have the right to view things whatever way you wish.

[wellst0nev0ter]

58. And the phrase "most votes"

Usually means the plurality.

Stop splitting hairs. You're embarrassing yourself.

[Crunchy Frog]

68. I don't need this kind of negativity and hostility.

So I'm putting you on ignore. Bye.

[Loki Liesmith]

86. 3% isn't large enough

To say with certainty that there is a majority one way or another. Probably a majority of whites still support trump but that probability is around 0.65. Decent odds it could be other way.

[wellst0nev0ter]

107. Yes it's within margin of error

But the fact of the matter is that between 49-57% of whites, whom I imagine are against affirmative action, believe this clearly unqualified man is doing a good job. Splitting hairs is not going to make the issue go away.

[cemaphonic]

98. I've noticed this in polling over the last few years

When pollsters use the word "most', it often means just a simple majority. But I think in colloquial usage, people usually use "most" to refer to a pretty significant majority. It's a word I tend to discount in headlines without reading further.

[wellst0nev0ter]

106. When I say "most" I mean more than half. That's it

When I want to refer to a percentage above 50% plus one, I say "supermajority." Otherwise, that colloquial definition of the term will invite all sorts of convenient confusion to the debate.

[Idoru]

27. "Not all white people!!"

White people also can't handle the truth, it seems. Admitting there is a problem is the first step to fixing it and I don't mean immediately going on the defensive with "not all white people!!"

[whathehell]

41. That's correct, it's not..

Is it "defensive" to reject negative stereotypes about Blacks or Muslims? No?..Then I'm afraid we're not obligated to accept such stereotypes either.

[doc03]

4. I am white and I am not in that 53%. Kind of a racist slur towards

whites I think.

[workinclasszero]

6. How is factual polling data a racist slur?

The truth is the truth and I say that as an old, white, working class male.

[doc03]

8. Because it paints us all with a broad brush, all white people don't

support that fool. If 53% support him there are 47% of us that don't. That seems to be a common practice on DU
anymore portraying all white people as racist and stupid especially those of us that live in flyover country. I read these posts
that say the Democrats should just give up on the stupid white voters in the rust belt, like we are some kind of lost cause.
Read post #1 that is what pissed me off.

[drm604]

26. I am not accusing anyone in particular in this thread,

but there are still Russian trolls active on the internet working to create discord in the USA, including racial discord. That may be part of what's causing what you're seeing on DU.

Anyone who speaks out against the behavior gets insulted and berated. This is done as an attempt to drive away the voices of reason. We need to hang steady and not let them drive us out.

[Jonny Appleseed]

29. do u know what a slur is?

Not racially-charged polling data, that's for sure.

[JDC]

7. Not this white people. Solid?

Seriously, wtf

[ProfessorGAC]

9. 7 of 15 Disapproval Is Horrible

Take 25% of intractable racists out approval among whites 28 of the other 75, or 37%
This is actually bad news for "it"!

[warmfeet]

10. What world do these people live in?

I am puzzled and perplexed.

[steve2470]

101. an ignorant one nt

[warmfeet]

104. Indeed.

[leftynyc]

11. Those numbers are PATHETIC

His white working class base and he can't clear 60%. He's still in his honeymoon and his base is that soft on him and I'm supposed to give a crap?

[mountain grammy]

14. Sad, just fucking sad.

I'm depressed, but going to an anti Gorsuch rally in Denver in the morning.
Hang tough, Democrats.

[ismnotwasm]

15. Racist double down

This is why it's never a good idea to "feel the pain" of racist and misogynistic assholes.

[Bettie]

20. Not this older white lady

or my husband.

I think that number reflects two things:

1. racist idiots
2. white evangelicals

The churches have been pushing tribble-head hard.

[sharedvalues]

45. And low-information red-state voters that get info from Fox and conserva-hate radio

Lots of people don't have a ton of time to spend on politics
And they listen to radio on their drive or catch Fox at a friends' or at a bar

So they internalize the lies.

If you want to fix America we have to stop the GOP donors from funding the lies of Fox/right-wing radio (all directed at tax cuts for the GOP donors, of course)

[Old Terp]

31. As another 70 year old white woman who has supported almost all Democratic candidates over the years

(there were several racist candidates back then that I didn't support), I must object to the calling of all whites as racist. I've supported all forms of human rights (civil, sexual, reproductive). We should all agree that no group of people walk in lock step. To identify that a certain group is racist because many (even most for a specific large demographic classification) is in it's self racist. I start wondering if this person is someone trying to cause division on our site (Russian troll--hurts to be insulted doesn't it). We get in enough fights over liberal and progressive. We don't need to make race a divider because a good chunk of our party are white and have been Democrats for generations and generations.

[sharedvalues]

46. Don't worry, we all know there is plenty of tolerance amongst Dems and white people

Subset of white people are racist.
Keep embracing tolerance and stopping GOP hate and divisiveness!

[Old Terp]

50. Since the election, we have often broken out in hugs in the parking lot while doing our weekly shopp

I'm one of those people who smiles and talks to strangers.

[shadowmayor]

32. Just an old white sergeant's point of view

Christ on a crutch, but man are people thin-skinned and overly defensive on this one! For crying out loud, the original post doesn't say all white people - it mentions that over half (that would be most - even here in fuzzy math Texas) of whites polled approve of the job STFU Donny is doing. Now that should bother folks across the spectrum - the fact that so many white people see things differently, and I will say loudly -- wrongly. But, it's not about us white folks here on DU for the most part.

Except for one thing, many of us, many of my family, and I would say most for some of my progressive acquaintances cannot fathom how anybody could support this president to the point where they are so blind that they cannot understand that many fellow whites actually do. In fact, according to this poll, most whites are OK with this guy.

I have tried to describe the level of racism and hatred for all things Democratic in our country to many of my fellows, and they usually tell me I'm way off base or exaggerating without any facts. For some reason, people seem comfortable with confiding to me things not usually mentioned in public or mixed company. Mixed in this case means where democrats and republicans might be in the same room. I grew up in a very red-necked mining town and have the ability to fit or "slip" into white racist republican groups or liberal groups. I can tell you that the use of the pejorative nigger was uttered freely and far more frequently in certain conversations when Obama was running against McCain. After he won, such utterances went off the charts, just like guns and ammo went flying off the shelves of gun stores.

Too many (I don't know if it's most) liberal white people have no clear sense of how the "other half" is actually living! Interesting post and interesting reactions!

[JHan]

35. it's as though the election of Obama gave people license to be more brazen with their racism

[MountCleaners]

99. Thank you!

The large numbers of white people who DO support Trump - someone who is patently crazy - IS statistically significant and speaks to the prevalence of white racism. I don't care for the defensiveness around here. Besides, generalizing about white people is NOT as destructive as generalizing about more vulnerable groups such as blacks. I hate seeing this defensiveness on what is supposed to be a progressive board. The popularity of Trump DOES have something to do with whiteness. Looks like some people have some work to do when it comes to understanding racism in the USA.

[whathehell]

33. FALSE..The article says he's not lost support of "his white base", not "white people"

or majority of. whites in America....His Disapproval rating is at 56% I'm betting there's a lot of white people in that figure.

[still_one]

34. 46% of the populous voted. 47% didn't vote, and the rest voted third party. I don't buy this poll

[Jonny Appleseed]

36. Didn't even need to look at the thread to know it's filled with people saying "B-but not me!"

Yeah, that's pretty obvious since you're posting here. Therein lies the problem. But also the solution. When comedians joke about "racist" being the "n-word for white people" it may in fact have a degree of merit. Perhaps this could be used to channel a marginal degree of empathy for poc fearing for their lives when they're not sure if a white person is a Trump supporter, and a danger, or not? Haha doesn't that sound ironic, it's like a reappropriation of the racial fear pervasive in the minds of white Americans except it doesn't have any institutional or socioeconomic ramifications so it really just makes those (white Americans) afflicted feel a lil' miffed.

[milestogo]

38. Some white people.

[spanone]

40. this is one stupid fucking country....i reckon

[titaniumsalute]

42. Headline is rather bullshit

53% of whites approve of Trump's performance. 47% do not. That isn't "BIG FANS" but a small plurality.

[ecstatic]

44. It is what it is. A majority. Time to accept it and try

to figure out what went so wrong in this society to get us to this point.

[titaniumsalute]

49. Yes it is a majority

But as someone who works in stats it isn't an overwhelming majority. We really need to figure out what happened to the uneducated, low income whites. That is where the really big problems lives.

[ecstatic]

52. Um, "college educated" whites as well

Among college educated whites, only 39 percent of men and 52 percent of women voted for Clinton.

You can't fix a problem without first acknowledging ALL the facts.

[titaniumsalute]

53. So what do college educated middle class whites and uneducated low income whites have in common?

Besides being white?

[wellst0nev0ter]

66. I think you just answered your own question

what they also have in common is that his racism, sexism and overall incompetence isn't a dealbreaker, since he's part of the tribe.

[whathehell]

85. Um, no...Most college educated white females did NOT vote for him

You can't characterize a ""people" without acknowledging ALL the people.

[ecstatic]

92. I did acknowledge it, it's right there in the post

Despite Trump's personality disorder, inexperience, business conflicts, hidden taxes, sexism, racism, and xenophobia, only 52% of college educated white women sided with Clinton-- a woman who also happened to be the most qualified person to ever run for president (a fact acknowledged by both president Obama and Bill Clinton).

[whathehell]

94. Not on your subject line

I did see the body of your post, but some people never read beyond the 'headline'.

[ecstatic]

43. SMH. nt

[NickB79]

47. Which explains why uneducated white people are rocketing towards becoming an endangered species

They keep shooting up meth and heroin, living off fast food and beer, playing with their 20 loaded guns, and supporting the guy who keeps them dirt poor and without health care.

Thank God I left my rural hillbilly town, got a college degree and married a Puerto Rican woman I half-jokingly tell my wife that the main reason I married her was simply because all the other single women in my hometown were a little too closely related to me for comfort, and the family needed some fresh blood in the mix!

[m-lekktor]

97. According to the New Republic, it was college educated whites who voted for Trump, not the working

class.

Blame Trump’s Victory on College-Educated Whites, Not the Working Class

excerpt:

The average Trump voter is not poorly educated or unemployed, nor does he live in a rural area. Back in May, FiveThirtyEight’s Nate Silver punctured the myth of the “working class” being Trump’s voter base: In exit polls of 23 states from the primaries, all showed a higher median income for Trump supporters than the national average, usually around $70,000. Exit polls last week, while not definitive, reveal that both college-educated white men and college educated white women voted for Trump by much higher than expected margins.

https://newrepublic.com/article/138754/blame-trumps-victory-college-educated-whites-not-working-class

[Binkie The Clown]

51. They need to be reminded that history is not kind to collaborators. n/t

[pansypoo53219]

54. all they want is to KEEP their white priveledge, and turnip is making sure.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

55. Not this white person.

[mountain grammy]

56. During the campaign, every time I said I thought trump could win

my husband would explode. I have more faith in Americans than you do, he'd say. The majority of Americans are not racist, he'd say. Well, he still maintains he was right, but his faith is definitely shaken. Most of his family, not all, is evangelical and racist.

Honestly, trump is a racist, and enough people voted for him to make him president. People voted their hate and the election was stolen. I'm not naive, been around 70 years. Lived in North Carolina, 1957-58 and saw Jim Crow in person, something I've never forgotten, but most Americans have. Americans forget and deny any and all things non exceptional.. Maybe that's why fake news does so well, we've have never been real good at accepting the truth.. and of course, I don't mean ALL Americans, but certainly enough to make a difference.

[Mme. Defarge]

57. Self-delete

[Generic Other]

62. I just don't understand

[beachbum bob]

65. duh...only white people voted for the jerk

[whathehell]

82. Duh..33 percent of Hispanics and 13 % of Blacks voted for Trump...

Good luck trying to lay it all on white people, though

[beachbum bob]

91. the bulk of voters....80% plus were whites....

the majority of his voters...

[whathehell]

96. That may have something to do with the fact that

most who choose to vote are white.

[pnwmom]

74. This poll didn't use a random sample. It's one of those panel polls. And that's probably

why his overall support is higher than Gallup's, for example.

There were probably more white Republicans who participated.

[Vogon_Glory]

76. Trump is going to keep a lot of his voters until the next recession

Trump is going to keep most of his supporters until the next economic downturn. The US is still coasting on President Obama's recovery, the Reublicans' assaults on the US social safety net haven't impacted most of his base yet, and the Rethuglies yet to set off a recession on their watch.


As much as it saddens me to say this, the only way enough of Trumps's supporters are going to wise up is through prolonged health and financial pain. Unfortunately, a lot of the rest of us are going to have to suffer for their folly alongside them.

[caroldansen]

77. The republicans are wimps. Afraid to vote for a woman. Pathetic. Shame on them.

[HAB911]

80. Tina Fey Calls Out White Women Who Might Regret Voting For Trump

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/tina-fey-drags-white-women-who-regret-voting-for-trump_us_58df03b4e4b0ba3595953602?3ff0yq6mh9e4b1emi&

[Vinca]

81. This makes me embarrassed to be a white person.

For starters, he's done very little and he's definitely done nothing to help the average person.

[burnbaby]

83. define white

and once you do, why would anyone be embarrassed of their make up?

[Vinca]

84. If 53% of white people think Trump is doing a good job, I'm embarrassed.

It indicates a level of stupidity I've never seen before in my long life. Trump is right when he says he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose support. His supporters - who are by and large white - have a cult mentality not seen since Jonestown.

[burnbaby]

87. I agree

and they disgust me as well, but I'm not embarrassed as to my make up. Although there was a time when my family was not considered white by those same disgusting people

So much hate so little time

[Historic NY]

88. Somone ought to ask them what has he done to help white people?

[Alice11111]

93. I'm a "white people," and Everyone I know wants him GONE

anyway, anyhow, whatever it takes. He is a Nightmare from which we can't wake up. He is destroying our country, all races, all people (except maybe the super rich), children, the diabled, the elderly, our air, our water, our education, freedom of speech, our reputation, women's health, healthcare, much more, and the planet will be next. I don't care if you are green, white, black, or blue, DT is going to damage your life.

[steve2470]

100. This white guy detests the fact that he got elected and....

that our side did not have enough turnout in the really critical states, including informed and aware Democrats/Independents like me. Too many good white people sat on their ass and allowed this.... thing.... to get elected.

Good news (if we assume the poll is accurate, which is a big assumption): 47% of whites disapprove and I strongly suspect that number will steadily go higher and higher. The non-deadenders will eventually peel off when they realize how bad he is.

[0rganism]

103. big fans? 53%?

that's kind of a stretch for "bigness"
anecdotally speaking, as a white man, i am not a fan

[struggle4progress]

105. Obama v Romney was 65916K to 60933K, turnout about 58%

Clinton v Trump was 65853K to 62985K, turnout about 58%

So about 40% of folk just aren't voting.