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Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:59 AM Mar 2017

Oh goody! Dr. Watts is in the new article about trump chaos/Surkov playbook, Vanity Fair, April '17



...Clint Watts, a fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute who has studied Russian propaganda for years, sees major similarities between Putin’s and Trump’s approaches. “Create chaos in the system, such that you don’t know what is the truth or not the truth,” he says. The Kremlin does this by flooding television and digital media with biased coverage and wanton spin. The Trump administration has discovered something equally effective: lying to reporters and publicly attacking critics are like tossing grenades into the media eco-system. The press is constantly scrambling to respond to a never-ending river of slime, and the system is gradually overwhelmed...


much more at
http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/03/is-trumps-chaos-a-move-from-the-kremlins-playbook
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GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
2. An exceptionally important article! Dugin and Surkov have not gone away.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 12:17 PM
Mar 2017

The article is an in-depth look at how the chaos of Circus Trumpius closely mimics the disinformation playbook of the Russian "political technologist" Vladislav Surkov (A name you may have heard me mention, back a million years ago before Inauguration Day.)

The article makes it quite clear that if we allow ourselves to become enraptured by the noise and excitement of the Circus, we are left vulnerable to the real "asymmetric social warfare" game being played on the West by men like Dugin and Surkov. While Trumpius Maximus is indeed one facet of that game, he is only one of many.

This story really helps to make sense out of what we are seeing - if we can raise our eyes from our partisan political bun-fights and look at the maelstrom in a global context.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
3. Hi, GG! Ha, "The Drump 'presidency' - the first million years" - I had just thought of Surkov the
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:33 PM
Mar 2017

other night, while trying not to "fall for" every flippin tidbit-bombshell of relentless insanity we're exposed to now, on an hourly basis...it's too too much -

At any rate, glad you saw this, and I'm hoping its publication in a fairly well-read magazine will (re)introduce Americans to Surkov's methods and to what is "really" going down -

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
6. I realized I was being drawn into the whirlpool myself.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:58 PM
Mar 2017

Fortunately, I remembered that I have a decade of experience in asking myself "What's really going on here?" about all kinds of stuff. That helps me retain some perspective,

A word of warning about that question, though - it can lead you down some very deep rabbit holes. What I discovered during my search for answers convinced me that global industrial civilization is on the brink of collapse (within a very few decades...) Don't ask questions if you're not prepared for the answers.

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
8. Yes, I know you have delved verrrry deeply into more than one rabbit hole, and that your
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 02:54 PM
Mar 2017

conclusion is a terrifying one...for myself, I'm just going to trim some dead branches off a tree out back and maybe get to cookin up a pot of beans today - exhausted from too much time in the "whirlpool" here lately - and I doubt I'm prepared for any answers you have!!! (not making light of your conclusion(s), honestly) -

But hey, I do hope you are "tolerable well", on this day/at this time!


 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
9. Doin' fine, one day at a time, thank you.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 03:09 PM
Mar 2017

Trimming trees sounds like a good way to expend some energy.

Given my other interests and conclusions, I wonder sometimes why I'm drawn so irresistibly to this crisis. If I'm right, it won't really make a hill of beans' worth of difference to the final outcome. But the part of me that's not a dispassionate Martian anthropologist rebels at the presence of evil, just as if I was a normal human. That reaction, combined with the complexity of the dot-connecting in this situation turns it into mind-candy.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
5. It's a sustained, overblown argument about a petty matter
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:52 PM
Mar 2017

bun fight: A sustained, overblown argument about a petty matter, usually personal in nature to the participants but not to everyone else.

It may be a Briticism.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
7. heh.....sean mccarthy spicer is in the midst of one as I type this
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 02:29 PM
Mar 2017

what a DICK!

farkas farkas farkas

misdirect

lie

spin

rinse

repeat

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