I'm getting texts from friends telling me Flynn immunity...

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...was turned down.

Any links to who, when, and why?

I'm sure it'll be headlines soon if true.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. It was on MSNBC about a half hour ago.

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/03/31/senate-intelligence-committee-turned-down-flynns-request-for-immunity-nbc.html

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2. Thanks!!

[Cosmocat]

3. Its too early in the process

The House Investigation is done ...

The Senate is just really getting started and they are still early in "discovery."

You don't give "immunity" before you have a good idea of what is going on, much less not at the point to really start vetting it out with individuals.

FBI - in theory we shouldn't know either way.

Here is the thing with him - whatever shit he is in to with Russia, there is the whole Turkey thing, the kidnapping scheme, etc.

People need to realize this guy is truly off the hook.

He either is going to do a big song and dance or roll on everything.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

4. Or have a fourth floor accident installing a bathtub. nt

[Cosmocat]

12. He isn't some fat russian politbureau

slob.

They have their hands full if they want to do the window thing.

Would probably not be an easy mark for a "hit" either.

I would say they would have to go the nuclear power drink or something if they wanted to take him out.

Now, Stone and Page - those two are like the low rung guys who get the bump in the mob movies.

If we are going to speculate about those types of things ...

[MGKrebs]

6. I agree. They need to make him think they don't need his testimony.

Call him up there without immunity. Let's see how many times he pleads the 5th.

[Cosmocat]

13. It could be that the FBI is further along and somehow

let the senate committee know that it would botch up what they are doing with him if they did provide him with immunity then speak about what the FBI needs from him. From what I am hearing if he got immunity from the senate that would extend to what the FBI was doing if it was the same material.

[ret5hd]

9. You also don't give "immunity" when...

you already got the evidence you need.

Just sayin'... and hopin'.

[Cosmocat]

14. Yeah

It could be that the FBI communicated with the senate committee that them providing him with immunity would botch up what they were doing.

[Chasstev365]

5. This thing must be HUGE, BIGLY!

[haele]

7. Flynn has known to be an untrustworthy, crooked a-hole for a long time now.

Giving him immunity would be worse for justice and the country in general than losing any information he may have.

Haele

[karynnj]

8. Glad it was turned down

Many of the people guilty in Iran/Contra were protected because of immunity deals with the joint Senate/House investigation. In fact, many actually indicted were indicted because their EARLIER testimony to John Kerry's sub committee included lies. This included neocon Elliot Abrams, who Tillerson wanted as his deputy SoS, but who Trump rejected because he criticized Trump.

It is very likely that there are many things he could be indicted for. Remember that he was the man included in the Trump briefings during the election. IF he was captured on tape conveying anything he learned in those briefings to Russians the US was monitoring, he is in very serious trouble. (Even without Russia, he was an undeclared foreign lobbyist for Turkey while he sat in on those briefings. Turkey was also very likely covered as it was a major part of dealing with ISIS and was a problem in its own right. Did he pass on anything to his client, Turkey, from those meetings. )

Note that Trump's Pravda equivalent, the National Enquirer, credited Trump with finding the WH Russian spy and kicking him out -- an interesting way to spin removing Flynn, who he put in as NSA. This suggests that Trump has thrown him under the bus. Could this also mean that, unlike GHWB on Iran/Contra, Trump will not pardon Flynn. Consider that for Republicans, especially the Contra part of Iran/Contra is STILL not seen as wrong, just illegal. The Iran part is explained away as needed to get some hostages held by Hezbollah and to get money - Congress denied - to aid "their side", the Contras. There is NO ideological argument that could justify colluding with Russia to interfere in a US election. Not to mention, GHWB pardoned them as he left office.

As others have pointed out, Trump placed him so high that the ONLY person higher than him that he could provide evidence on is Trump. I would expect that the committee would NOT give him immunity unless two things were true - Flynn had absolute proof of Trump's involvement and was willing to give it them AND the committee had no other direct proof on Trump. The latter possibility, that the committee already has some degree of proof that Trump himself was involved might be more likely.

[KingCharlemagne]

10. Bravo! Far wiser to indict the shithead Flynn for the things they can already

prove he did and then plead those down, rather than confer some blanket grant of immunity. Should Flynn not want to cooperate as part of the plea, he can do the time. Lets see if Flynn really wants to be G. Gordon Liddy, v 2.0.

[Adrahil]

11. There are several reasons why an immunity request could be turned down....

1. He's got nothing. Unlikely. He wouldn't make the request if he had nothing to offer.

2. Cover-up. The GrOPer Chairmen want to protect Trump.

3. Officials already KNOW what it is he is going to say.

4. Officials believe they can found out the information from other sources without offering immunity.

Likely a mix between 3 and 4 IMO.

[moondust]

15. Agree, probably 3 and 4.

[OldHippieChick]

16. It is way too early in the process for them to be handing out

immunity. I realize these days people expect problems to be solved w/in the hour-long program, but real life just doesn't work that way. I also suspect that unless he truly has the goods on Cheetohead, they are not going to be interested. I also suspect he doesn't have the goods.