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Good God Almighty. Tillerson--no eye contact allowed: (Original Post) Kingofalldems Mar 2017 OP
Pretty sure Diana Ross wouldn't allow eye contact back stage. sarcasmo Mar 2017 #1
When you've got talent and are going before an audience Merlot Mar 2017 #10
+1 joeybee12 Mar 2017 #19
Not SOS but SOB HelenWheels Apr 2017 #67
Exactly. Rex is not in the Rock & Roll HOF. Yavin4 Mar 2017 #51
Thread win of the day!! madinmaryland Apr 2017 #65
I worked at the Premier Center in Sterling Heights back in the day trixie2 Mar 2017 #29
Mahalo for the history, trixie Cha Mar 2017 #39
More Vegas stories, please. HelenWheels Apr 2017 #68
Well this is from the Premier Center in MI trixie2 Apr 2017 #69
Diana Ross isn't a public servant. LisaM Mar 2017 #53
Tillerson is supposed to be an ambassador of goodwill TheDebbieDee Mar 2017 #59
But she is a National Treasure. n/t Yavin4 Mar 2017 #60
What the hell?? Like he's some kind of king? The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #2
Are they also expected to back out when leaving him NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #62
Funny that. Virtual Burlesque Apr 2017 #70
Afraid they'll see he has no soul? tanyev Mar 2017 #3
The Emperor's clothes has no Emperor. n/t Virtual Burlesque Apr 2017 #71
Scared someone will see through his bullshit Thrill Mar 2017 #4
High functioning autism spectrum disorder? Ilsa Mar 2017 #5
Asperger on Scheisskopf perhaps n/t radhika Mar 2017 #50
Wtf Rex Tillerson is a Gorgon? Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #6
WTF? MBS Mar 2017 #7
He can't control when his eyes turn black like a demon: Ilsa Mar 2017 #8
Must avert eyes from most holy man. Bow down or die. VOX Mar 2017 #9
That'll intimadate 'em ! State is the perfect place for a world class tool. nocalflea Mar 2017 #11
Is this for real? Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #12
I'm not a big Andrea Mitchell fan, but . . . Staph Mar 2017 #13
And, look him directly in the eyes. If you can, touch the asshole. nt NCjack Mar 2017 #20
Just don't touch his a$$hole! True Dough Mar 2017 #27
No, I meant just like I wrote it. (We are talking about Andrea and Rex.) NCjack Mar 2017 #42
Eeewwww!! WoonTars Mar 2017 #46
He's not going to last. No way. Laffy Kat Mar 2017 #14
What country and what century do we live in? dalton99a Mar 2017 #15
Sylvester Stallone and his wife and mother laid down just such rules tblue37 Mar 2017 #16
Tillerson has no business bdamomma Mar 2017 #17
This passage from the article struck me: tblue37 Mar 2017 #18
Any good American GulfCoast66 Mar 2017 #21
WTF kind of diplomacy disallows eye contact? Thor_MN Mar 2017 #22
Not a diplomat? Cha Mar 2017 #37
People around him should just stare at him and laugh. roamer65 Mar 2017 #23
That's just alternative eye contact. betsuni Mar 2017 #24
I know I will never meet hm but if I do I will give him direct eye contact. Doreen Mar 2017 #25
Shades of Nick Sabin redstateblues Mar 2017 #26
Look down, tug your forelock, and say "By your pass, m'lord." Buns_of_Fire Mar 2017 #28
Fuck him. smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #30
lol Cha Mar 2017 #36
Wtff?? MFM008 Mar 2017 #31
What an asshole. milestogo Mar 2017 #32
"No touch, no talk, no eye contact" -- Cesar Millan Mc Mike Mar 2017 #33
I wouldn't doubt that is his wife's orders. The one who told him to take the job he didn't want... JTFrog Mar 2017 #34
Why? So they can't tell if he's LYING? Cha Mar 2017 #35
DO NOT LOOK INTO MY EYES, IT WILL BREAK THE MANCHURIAN EFFECT! nt JTFrog Mar 2017 #38
Really the E-L-I-T-E keithbvadu2 Mar 2017 #40
i don't know which is worse. tillerson requesting something like that okieinpain Mar 2017 #41
Tillerson will be resign before you know it..........n/t Bengus81 Mar 2017 #43
He has always reminded me of Chauncey Gardenier from the movie "Being There" erinlough Mar 2017 #44
When I was in law school DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #45
Rexxon has been spotted shopping at Safeway IronLionZion Mar 2017 #47
Now being disputed as bogus by AP reporter Matt Lee Marengo Mar 2017 #48
I think it's false. phylny Mar 2017 #57
At the confirmation hearings, my gut detected ecstatic Mar 2017 #49
Yep, this is what the minimum wage worker at Walmart wants, right? It is what they voted for, right Eliot Rosewater Mar 2017 #52
This is the most neurotic administration, ever. C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #54
but he's supposed to be one of the grown ups? lol JHan Mar 2017 #55
... Chiyo-chichi Mar 2017 #56
Why am I thinking Major Major Major Major? Brother Buzz Mar 2017 #58
It's definitely a DomSub, BDSM fetish thing stuffmatters Mar 2017 #61
tillerson got social anxiety? TalenaGor Apr 2017 #63
Two possibilities spring to mind: One, he has Aspergers Warren DeMontague Apr 2017 #64
Could be like Raiders of the Lost Ark Delarage Apr 2017 #66
I hate cowardice Blue_Tires Apr 2017 #72

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
10. When you've got talent and are going before an audience
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:48 PM
Mar 2017

I'd say it's fair to ask that no one get "in your space" before a big performance.

Not allowing employees or underlings to have eye or other contact is just ass-holery.

 

joeybee12

(56,177 posts)
19. +1
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 11:07 PM
Mar 2017

Very common for performers to need space before a show
Not common for worthless scum parading as SOS

trixie2

(905 posts)
29. I worked at the Premier Center in Sterling Heights back in the day
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 02:07 AM
Mar 2017

Las Vegas styled venue on Van Dyke. I was told that acts would fly through Detroit between Vegas and other hot spots.

Worked the Diana Ross shows. I worked right near the stage. Set up was cocktail tables, I guess like Vegas. Each performer had the usual green room, own bar, own area for crew, rider etc. The performer had the option of service during the show, which most ok'd, or no service during the show. She chose no service during her show. We actually loved that because we would show up, set up our areas, bring in the first audience, tell them no service during the show and they would load up on drinks and tip us out. We would then go upstairs and watch the show from the "lighting" room and party. I met Tom Jones' son up there and he was pretty cool. Anyways, we were setting up and she was doing a sound check. Most waitstaff joined up with a neighbor wait of the opposite sex. That way both of you cover two sections and the old ladies wanted to the cute college boy and the old men wanted the cute college girl. Nothing untoward, just good service and huge tips.

Back to the story, we were setting up and chatting with our neighbors as we went and she went into a rage and wanted everyone OUT! She wanted one girl fired and really had a fit. The management finally got her to go on, let us set up in silence and then agreed to not hold our last call for staff after the second show. She really is a diva!

Tom Jones, and most others, were so cool. They came out and chatted with us, asked us if we made better tips with service during show or not - not by the way and came to staff last call.

I was there the night David Ruffin was arrested. The police were lined up against the wall with us until the show finished. It was awesome.

trixie2

(905 posts)
69. Well this is from the Premier Center in MI
Sun Apr 2, 2017, 06:50 PM
Apr 2017

Best group ever for tips: Righteous Brothers - I backed up the money truck!
Dirtiest show: Redd Foxx - absolutely filthy but I was like 19 years old soooo
Biggest disappointment: George Carlin - he was not too far off his brain surgery or cancer or something. The crowd was crushed.

 

TheDebbieDee

(11,119 posts)
59. Tillerson is supposed to be an ambassador of goodwill
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 05:20 PM
Mar 2017

To other nations - how are they going to respond to his refusal to make eye contact?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,733 posts)
2. What the hell?? Like he's some kind of king?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:35 PM
Mar 2017

The underlings must avert their eyes and not speak unless spoken to? Seriously?

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
62. Are they also expected to back out when leaving him
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 08:18 PM
Mar 2017

while bowing, like people have to do with the Queen of England? I think it's stupid with the Queen, and even more so with someone like Tillerson. That's the kind of thing monarchs demand.

Virtual Burlesque

(132 posts)
70. Funny that.
Mon Apr 3, 2017, 02:29 PM
Apr 2017

You weren't supposed to look Henry VIII in the eye, either. Also, you must kneel, and never turn your back. That last one was common sense, in addition to protocol.

Acceptable, I suppose, in a Tyrant King, but a bit much in a supposed democracy.

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
6. Wtf Rex Tillerson is a Gorgon?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:43 PM
Mar 2017


I feel like that'd be a large barrier to overcome when engaging in diplomatic relationships with countries along the Mediterranean sea...

MBS

(9,688 posts)
7. WTF?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:43 PM
Mar 2017

Bizarro world.
How I feel for those career diplomats. It must be so strange for them, especially after Obama/HRC/Kerry.

I just heard on Hardball tonight (per David Ignatius) that the theme of ALL foreign policy, in every agency, top to bottom, will now be "America First." (and, needless to say, environment and human rights and democracy last. )

VOX

(22,976 posts)
9. Must avert eyes from most holy man. Bow down or die.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:45 PM
Mar 2017

Totally fucking insane. A pack of world-class weirdos have taken over the country.

Blue_Roses

(12,894 posts)
12. Is this for real?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:55 PM
Mar 2017

That is such a subservient role. Did we just drift back to the 1950's and no one told me?

Staph

(6,251 posts)
13. I'm not a big Andrea Mitchell fan, but . . .
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:15 PM
Mar 2017

You go, girl! Keep asking him questions, pressing him. It obviously upsets him!


Laffy Kat

(16,383 posts)
14. He's not going to last. No way.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:19 PM
Mar 2017

He didn't even want the job, his wife made him accept the position. A SoS who doesn't make eye contact. You can't make this stuff up.

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
16. Sylvester Stallone and his wife and mother laid down just such rules
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 11:01 PM
Mar 2017

for their servants.

Basically, it is the attitude of the most extremely privileged and arrogant royals.

My son and DIL are both in the State Department. I hope they never have to deal with that jerk!

bdamomma

(63,874 posts)
17. Tillerson has no business
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 11:01 PM
Mar 2017

being SOS, he was the CEO of Exxon Mobil for 36 yrs. He is just working for Rosneft Russia's trillion dollar oil deal, He is Putin's friend.

He is a rude SOB, he doesn't talk to Andrea Mitchell.

tblue37

(65,403 posts)
18. This passage from the article struck me:
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 11:05 PM
Mar 2017
On his first three foreign trips, Tillerson skipped visits with State Department employees and their families, embassy stops that were standard morale-boosters under other secretaries of state.


My son and his wife, both of who are career State people (son in Foreign Service) got to meet the Obamas when they stopped by their embassy during a foreign trip. I have pictures of both of them (especially Pres. Obama, who was obviously delighted, because he loves babies so much) greeting my 16-month-old granddaughter during that embassy stop.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. Any good American
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 11:35 PM
Mar 2017

Would look that son of a bitch square in the eyes and say 'hello Mr. Secretary'.

I can say without hesitation I would even with a job on the line

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
25. I know I will never meet hm but if I do I will give him direct eye contact.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:32 AM
Mar 2017

I have always been very big on direct eye contact with people and for some it bothers them but it sounds like he likes it even less. Oh goodie a way to mess with some asshole.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,181 posts)
28. Look down, tug your forelock, and say "By your pass, m'lord."
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 01:53 AM
Mar 2017
Employee Conduct 10.2.25: If he feels fatigued, all State Department employees must be prepared to wash and massage his feet at any time. Scented oils and emollients are not required, but recommended.

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
33. "No touch, no talk, no eye contact" -- Cesar Millan
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:30 AM
Mar 2017

To avoid appearing to challenge the dominant gorilla:
http://www.monkeyday.org/2009/04/glasses-created-to-prevent-eye-contact.html

Also, protocol dictates that when leaving Rex's presence, back away, continually bowing and kow tow ing. Never turn your back on the Rex.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
34. I wouldn't doubt that is his wife's orders. The one who told him to take the job he didn't want...
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 09:33 AM
Mar 2017

Because "God" or some bullshit.

By the way, "God" appears to be code for "Money" in Republicanese.

okieinpain

(9,397 posts)
41. i don't know which is worse. tillerson requesting something like that
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 11:22 AM
Mar 2017

or the people that would actually do it to keep a paycheck. dude needs to be replaced immediately and if this is what is being allowed into government the dems need to fillibuster gorsuch.

erinlough

(2,176 posts)
44. He has always reminded me of Chauncey Gardenier from the movie "Being There"
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 12:09 PM
Mar 2017

This is one of my favorite old movies everyone should see. For those who haven't Chauncey is actually a gardener but his simplicity is taken as great wisdom by shallow "power people". It's a must see and perfectly played by Peter Sellers.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
45. When I was in law school
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 12:46 PM
Mar 2017

I worked for a summer at a medium sized corporate/ real estate law firm. Not as a clerk, just a glorified errand boy, as I had no interest in that type of law, but the pay was good and the hours flexible. It was a very hierarchical, structured environment. I hated the whole place, but one thing I remember was that when I started I was told to never speak to, or make eye contact with a partner. Such sad little people.

IronLionZion

(45,452 posts)
47. Rexxon has been spotted shopping at Safeway
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 02:01 PM
Mar 2017
https://www.washingtonian.com/2017/01/04/rex-tillerson-spotted-buying-groceries-soviet-safeway/

It doesn't sound like he fired too many people that day, before he took office.

But fear and intimidation are essential components of being a complete asshole.

Sounds like trumpster fire finds the worst dregs of society who share his leadership style.

phylny

(8,380 posts)
57. I think it's false.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 05:01 PM
Mar 2017

Someone I know works for ExxonMobil and said he'd never heard of this kind of behavior and Tillerson was not that kind of dick.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,112 posts)
52. Yep, this is what the minimum wage worker at Walmart wants, right? It is what they voted for, right
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 04:41 PM
Mar 2017

JESUS fucking god damn krist yo stupid fuckers

C_U_L8R

(45,003 posts)
54. This is the most neurotic administration, ever.
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 04:50 PM
Mar 2017

Don't look at me. Don't touch me.
One can't stand to be in the presence of women.
The other fetishes to be peed on by women.
What the heck???

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
61. It's definitely a DomSub, BDSM fetish thing
Fri Mar 31, 2017, 06:17 PM
Mar 2017

I'm beginning to think Trump and most of his cabinet and cronies belong to the same BDSM Kink Club. They all have such perverted attitudes towards women/marriage, no comprehension of fair partnership, discussion or democracy, and openly enjoy imposing humiliation and cruelty.

This whole Administration seems to be one big freak show!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
64. Two possibilities spring to mind: One, he has Aspergers
Sat Apr 1, 2017, 04:55 PM
Apr 2017

or two, he's riddled with guilt at being a part of this historical clusterfuck.

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