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Heidi Heitkamp: "I will vote for Neil Gorsuch" (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2017 OP
God Dam it! Chasstev365 Mar 2017 #1
Unfortunately but not surprising given her state. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #2
Congress will be full of these assholes if we run a bunch of conservadems in red states TransitJohn Mar 2017 #14
Really Heidi? ProudLib72 Mar 2017 #3
She needs to be primaried. Laffy Kat Mar 2017 #4
A primary would weaken her in the general. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #7
To what end primary her? Are you really not seeing DU'ers posting on how that would probably give KittyWampus Mar 2017 #9
What's the difference if she votes with them? Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #12
No and nor should he. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #13
What use is she? Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #15
I would rather have a Democrat from a red state that voteswith us half the time than hrmjustin Mar 2017 #16
Well we ideally need to get her out of office at some point. Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #17
That is up to the people of her state. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #19
Yeah but it's everyone's problem. Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #23
true but in the end it is their decision. hrmjustin Mar 2017 #26
May I ask if you're American or perhaps new to politics? Because to suggest Perez could kick her out KittyWampus Mar 2017 #20
Maybe not. Laffy Kat Mar 2017 #24
And this is why we keep losing elections. Initech Mar 2017 #5
Explain. This is a red state. Schumer has the 41 Dems he needs. So explain what you mean. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #10
Because we don't have Koch brothers refusing to donate to congressional campaigns if Jonny Appleseed Mar 2017 #11
Because the republicans steamroll us whenever we agree with them. Initech Mar 2017 #21
I was disturbed when they annexed Austria edhopper Mar 2017 #6
Her choice is not how I see the situation. Equinox Moon Mar 2017 #8
shit uponit7771 Mar 2017 #18
This is why we are losing elections FDRsGhost Mar 2017 #22
Those who vote for Gorsuch bdamomma Mar 2017 #25
May be strategic to let a couple vote for Gorsuch. Could make nuclear option less likely. nt Cognitive_Resonance Mar 2017 #27
Pathetic. But she is the best we can do in that part of the country. Tatiana Mar 2017 #28
As a red stater with two Republican Senators I would gladly trade either redstateblues Mar 2017 #29
reliable sell outs ..her and Manchin MFM008 Mar 2017 #30

TransitJohn

(6,932 posts)
14. Congress will be full of these assholes if we run a bunch of conservadems in red states
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:54 PM
Mar 2017

What's the point?

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. Really Heidi?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:23 PM
Mar 2017

Were you really "disturbed" by what the rethugs did to Garland? Is that why you've chosen to roll over as quickly as possible? And do you see refusing Gorsuch as a "wrong"? Fuck you then, DINO.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
9. To what end primary her? Are you really not seeing DU'ers posting on how that would probably give
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:42 PM
Mar 2017

her seat to a Republican?

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
12. What's the difference if she votes with them?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:46 PM
Mar 2017

The (D) next to her name?

Can Tom Perez kick her out of the party or something?

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
16. I would rather have a Democrat from a red state that voteswith us half the time than
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:57 PM
Mar 2017

a republican that never votes with us.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
20. May I ask if you're American or perhaps new to politics? Because to suggest Perez could kick her out
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:05 PM
Mar 2017

of the party or something shows a pretty sketchy understanding of how American politics works.

No, Perez can't kick her out of the party.

And the power in both Houses of Congress resides in having a MAJORITY.

That means putting up with Democrats in red states who might not vote the way we want them to that often.

Because their districts are filled with conservatives.

 

Jonny Appleseed

(960 posts)
11. Because we don't have Koch brothers refusing to donate to congressional campaigns if
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:45 PM
Mar 2017

we don't form an airtight caucus?

Initech

(100,081 posts)
21. Because the republicans steamroll us whenever we agree with them.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:06 PM
Mar 2017

They use that as an excuse to paint us as weak and spineless, and start blaming us for all the world's ills.

Equinox Moon

(6,344 posts)
8. Her choice is not how I see the situation.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 09:41 PM
Mar 2017

I have seen Sen. Heitkamp vote with the republicans on many occasions. How odd.

 

FDRsGhost

(470 posts)
22. This is why we are losing elections
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:11 PM
Mar 2017

And please, don't say "this is a red state". We put a Democrat in the governorship of North Carolina and Lousiana.
No more excuses!

bdamomma

(63,875 posts)
25. Those who vote for Gorsuch
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:16 PM
Mar 2017

are doing Bannon's work. If Gorsuch gets in this is Bannon's wish not for 4 years but for 40 yrs!!!! He can do a lot of damage.


http://www.peoplesworld.org/article/steve-bannon-rolls-out-his-far-right-nationalist-agenda/

Read this article: snip here

There were many points in their presentation which should arouse interest, such as Priebus’ excitement that the confirmation of Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch would cement Trump policies in place for a long time to come: “We’re not talking about a change over a four-year period. We’re talking about a change of potentially 40 years of law.”

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
28. Pathetic. But she is the best we can do in that part of the country.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:28 PM
Mar 2017

Still, it would be nice for these red-state Dems to actually show some spine every once in a while.

redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
29. As a red stater with two Republican Senators I would gladly trade either
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 10:31 PM
Mar 2017

For Manchin or Heitkamp. I'd rather have a Dem whose there for us 70% of the time than a Republican 100% of the time. Sorry to say that but it's the current reality in my red state.

MFM008

(19,816 posts)
30. reliable sell outs ..her and Manchin
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 11:10 PM
Mar 2017

I expect the usual suspects.

The D after the name is Embarrassing .
Sorry if it's democratic
bashing but they are not a democrat.

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