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BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:14 PM Mar 2017

***** LIVE Blog - Pt. 2 Russian Intelligence Activities - Senate Hearing Mar. 30 *****

Live on CSPAN1 (no longer on CSPAN3)

https://www.c-span.org/networks/
Senate Intelligence Committee feed - https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/hearings/videos



Also various feeds...


Witnesses
Kevin Mandia
Chief Executive Officer
FireEye

General (Ret.) Keith Alexander
Chief Executive Officer and President
IronNet Cybersecurity

Thomas Rid
Professor Department of War Studies
King's College London

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***** LIVE Blog - Pt. 2 Russian Intelligence Activities - Senate Hearing Mar. 30 ***** (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 OP
Opening statements - these are all Cyber Security experts BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #1
Here is the video LIVE feed: L. Coyote Mar 2017 #11
Here is the first hearing's thread: L. Coyote Mar 2017 #12
Added to the OP BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #13
Excellent. Should go up on Videos too. Go for it. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #24
Done. BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author LongTomH Mar 2017 #2
Alexander - Engage with Russia BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #3
thank you for posting bdamomma Mar 2017 #4
Ok that was bdamomma Mar 2017 #5
Warner - Disinformation campaign in PA during last week BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #6
Rubio - his campaign was targeted by an IP address from Russia BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #7
Rubio still trying to deflect from the election issue. BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #8
Yeah, they're not all there to be his personal tech advisory board. n/t woodsprite Mar 2017 #9
DiFi up... BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #10
Alexander basically cautious BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #14
Wyden (along with Rep. Lieu) - Vunerability with SS7 (cell) BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #15
SS7 - what does that effect ? Cell phones or computers? bettyellen Mar 2017 #17
Cell communications BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #18
SS7 is an old TDM technology actually snooper2 Mar 2017 #39
Thanks BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #46
EVERY PHONE CALL IN THE WORLD! snooper2 Mar 2017 #36
Wyden - Comey indicated the Russians hacked state voter roll databases BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #16
How many voters were dropped from the voter rolls by hackers? Whose hackers? L. Coyote Mar 2017 #21
not dropped, but micro-targeted. mopinko Mar 2017 #45
I want to know if voters were dropped from registration rolls. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #47
well, you find the ones who have a fb in their own names. mopinko Mar 2017 #48
Thanks for getting this going. I've been drawn away, trying to stay tuned. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #19
I figured you got tied up! BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #23
OMG! Talks about Privacy Protection when all these Repub F'ers woodsprite Mar 2017 #20
Probably not a coincidence. Girard442 Mar 2017 #31
So one expert says "engagement" is the first step. Eyeball to eyeball let Russian know that we know nikibatts Mar 2017 #22
That irked me BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #25
Been watching for a hashtag. #SenateIntelligenceCommittee is trending now. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #26
just kicking bdamomma Mar 2017 #27
Angus King - Wikileaks (Assange) was a clearing house now a selective leaker BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #29
Angus King - 30 states internet voting & 5 completely paperless BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #30
Lankford - is this a false flag? BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #32
Manchin - Could the Russians have altered the outcome? BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #33
Manchin - How would we retaliate? BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #34
Kamala - How can Americans tell what is fake news? BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #35
Warner - Recent issue about Medevev's property info made public BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #37
Interesting. How much Putin action was retaliation for Panama Papers? L. Coyote Mar 2017 #38
Burr - Does Wikileaks have more to release? BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #40
THIS: 98% compiled time is during business hours in Russia. L. Coyote Mar 2017 #41
Burr just got his ass handed to him by Mandia BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #42
Angus King to Rid - Who is Guccifer 2.0 and is it associated with Russia BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #43
Hearing Adjourned - 4.01 ET. BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #44

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
6. Warner - Disinformation campaign in PA during last week
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:36 PM
Mar 2017

E.g., False claims through social media that Clinton was sick, etc.

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
14. Alexander basically cautious
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:54 PM
Mar 2017

We may want to avoid confrontation until we secure ourselves and go with some engagement channel in the interim.

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
15. Wyden (along with Rep. Lieu) - Vunerability with SS7 (cell)
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 02:59 PM
Mar 2017

And issue of being hacked via the cell towers.

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
18. Cell communications
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:06 PM
Mar 2017

I think they were saying it's a vulnerable protocol that allows cell towers to communicate with each other... So as you travel around and your phone moves from tower to tower, you can be targeted and then your conversation tapped.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
39. SS7 is an old TDM technology actually
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:51 PM
Mar 2017

DIP done to find LIDB data, CIC/PIC, etc so we know how to route and originating phone call...

Cell towers know how to keep your call up via other protocols that are a secret

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
46. Thanks
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:05 PM
Mar 2017

Used to work with an old navy communications guy who used to try to teach me all those various protocols... TMI.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
21. How many voters were dropped from the voter rolls by hackers? Whose hackers?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:10 PM
Mar 2017

How much disruption of primaries was an orchestrated attempt to make Dems start infighting?

mopinko

(70,228 posts)
45. not dropped, but micro-targeted.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:04 PM
Mar 2017

went through and picked thug voters, and made sure their fb/twitter feeds were full of fake news.

these are semi-public records. most campaigns, you have to pay to use them. you rent them.
so, these cheetoheads got them free. ie- stole them.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
47. I want to know if voters were dropped from registration rolls.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:08 PM
Mar 2017

You can't go from a voter registration roll to feeding someon'e Fb feed, those are very distinct matters.

mopinko

(70,228 posts)
48. well, you find the ones who have a fb in their own names.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:11 PM
Mar 2017

but yeah, i have been saying that provisional ballots need to be examined.
if anyone was dropped, but tried to vote, they were likely to have been given a provisional ballot.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
19. Thanks for getting this going. I've been drawn away, trying to stay tuned.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:08 PM
Mar 2017

Following the twitter feed at the same time.


Girard442

(6,085 posts)
31. Probably not a coincidence.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:26 PM
Mar 2017

People will think twice about online anti- Trumplebani activities if they know everybody's watching.

 

nikibatts

(2,198 posts)
22. So one expert says "engagement" is the first step. Eyeball to eyeball let Russian know that we know
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:11 PM
Mar 2017

what they are doing.

OK. So that is exactly what Obama did. And after that he slapped sanctions on them. Now what?

https://video.search.yahoo.com/search/video?fr=yfp-t&p=obama+telling+putin+to+stop+it#id=2&vid=2b7250162abf980d3103db18fbd0e7d5&action=click

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
25. That irked me
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:12 PM
Mar 2017

but only later did he sortof indicate why - I think because basically we seriously need to get our house in order or we're fucked.

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
30. Angus King - 30 states internet voting & 5 completely paperless
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:25 PM
Mar 2017

Doesn't this create a vulnerability? (his question)

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
32. Lankford - is this a false flag?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:30 PM
Mar 2017

Mandia - hacking group is Russian. Can't yet directly tie Guccifer 2.0 to the breaches yet.

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
33. Manchin - Could the Russians have altered the outcome?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:35 PM
Mar 2017

Mandia - Not really sure (from an engineering standpoint) but they could have and this was just a shot across the bow.

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
34. Manchin - How would we retaliate?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:40 PM
Mar 2017

initial reaction - * crickets*

Rid - can't do military - sanctions
Alexander - engage (private) - push to administration to do
Mandia - can't do it on cyber (too much asymmetry they would win).

The above is pretty bleak.

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
35. Kamala - How can Americans tell what is fake news?
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:42 PM
Mar 2017

Mandia - need to look at multiple sources to validate
Rid - need to trust mainstream media (New York Times/Washington Post)
Alexander - The News media need to make a bigger effort to get the facts out

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
37. Warner - Recent issue about Medevev's property info made public
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:50 PM
Mar 2017

causing protests in Russia.

Rid - May have had to do with the Panama Papers and might put a different light if Russia assumes that the U.S. put that out.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
41. THIS: 98% compiled time is during business hours in Russia.
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:55 PM
Mar 2017

That does not mean the hackers work for Russians, just that they go to work in Russia. Important difference.


BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
42. Burr just got his ass handed to him by Mandia
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 03:58 PM
Mar 2017

Re: Asking if whether the DNC had handed the FBI their server earlier - and he got interrupted by Mandia to say that his org has been working these things for the past 5 or 6 years and almost every time, the FBI was already there and would tell his type of business (private) to go look at these leads too... Meaning the FBI was most likely already involved with the DNC.

Resulting in Burr saying - I guess that was a diplomatic way of putting it.

BumRushDaShow

(129,513 posts)
43. Angus King to Rid - Who is Guccifer 2.0 and is it associated with Russia
Thu Mar 30, 2017, 04:03 PM
Mar 2017

Rid -
-not one individual
-APT28 got password from Guccifer 2.0 for various hacks for data released to DC Leaks, etc.
-Yes believed to be associated with Russia

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