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MineralMan

(146,319 posts)
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 03:40 PM Mar 2017

The Republican Party is deeply divided. We should make use of that.

One of the things the defeat of the ACA "repeal and replace" demonstrated is that the factionalization of the Republican Party is much more significant that many of us thought. Even on basic principles, they have to have internal fights to get anything done. If everyone ain't happy, they ain't nobody's happy in that party at this point.

The far right legislators insisted on complete destruction of healthcare in general. Nothing the Ryan bill could have done would have appeased them, and they make up a bloc just large enough to cancel out the Republicans margin over the Democrats in the House.

And then there are those who are constantly called RINOS by the right. They can't get re-elected if they shift too far to the right, so they're stuck, too. Some of them voted against the ACA repeal and the worthless bill to replace it.

Bottom line is that there is no unified GOP. We need to take maximum advantage of these factions and use them to our own benefit. I think we will have a number of other opportunities to do so in the coming days. Let's push them to splinter even more. Let's provoke the right into taking hardline positions that can't be tolerated by moderate House members who will lose their seats if they go along.

In short, let's RF the GOP with it's own tools.

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The Republican Party is deeply divided. We should make use of that. (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2017 OP
Would be easier to do with a parliamentary system. McCamy Taylor Mar 2017 #1
Yes, but we have the system we have. MineralMan Mar 2017 #2
Repeat after me, please: "We. Do. Not. Have.... JHB Mar 2017 #4
I like the way you think Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #3

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
1. Would be easier to do with a parliamentary system.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 03:44 PM
Mar 2017

We would form a coalition of Democrats with Republicans that are NOT Money Simple and get some more, meaningful health care reform to improve upon the ACA. And, along the way, we would have a no confidence vote in Trump.

JHB

(37,161 posts)
4. Repeat after me, please: "We. Do. Not. Have....
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 03:56 PM
Mar 2017

...A. Parliamentary. System." Repeat until any "if we had..." thoughts are properly sidelined to beer-enabled bull sessions.

Your thoughts are welcome, provided they're about the available actions in the current situation, not hypotheticals about a situation that does not exist.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
3. I like the way you think
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 03:47 PM
Mar 2017

Funny, how everybody was saying it's the Dems who can't come together as a group. I think it's easier to be a group when you are opposing something. The repubs had 8 years to oppose Obama and now that they need to lead their internal differences are coming out front and center. I really think now is the time to push for single payer. The rest of the world seems to have figured out how to make it work, why can't we?

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