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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe trump presidency is failing. We all have to remember one thing about trump before we celebrate.
Trump has a long history of revenge. He always blames and attacks someone else for his failures. He is a textbook narcissist. If trump goes down he could cause a lot of damage. He could hurt a lot of people. We can't celebrate until he is gone. I hope we get through this without too many people getting hurt.
stopbush
(24,396 posts)Rs may be evil, but they're not so stupid as to take the monumental beating they just took on their AHCA bill and then line up behind the man whose stupidity caused said beating.
One has to think that any R interested in saving their political skin is looking for ways to distance themselves from tRump, and quickly.
unblock
(52,267 posts)but we damn well will have earned a big fuck-off celebration!
MFM008
(19,818 posts)Pence isn't involved in this mess somehow?
We dont. Let's not assume he is squeeky clean because he says he's a" Christian.."
unblock
(52,267 posts)Even if he wasn't actively involved. Same ticket, same campaign.
So if donnie goes, pence should too, even if he didn't do a damn thing (though I agree, he likely did.)
I'm just thinking of the practical realities, I suspect that if donnie does go, the media will declare the scandal "dealt with" and "behind us" and the powers that be will quietly accept pence.
MiniMe
(21,718 posts)I think that scares me more than Pence
vlyons
(10,252 posts)What I fear is that he will drag us into war, maybe even a nuclear war.
LastLiberal in PalmSprings
(12,586 posts)1. They're testing nuclear devices
2. They're working on long range ICBMs
3. Tillerson has already said that diplomacy with North Korea has failed (which is an excuse for going to war).
A nuclear war would fit into Bannon's dystopian vision for the future, and Trump could draw attention away from all of his problems at once ("USA-USA-USA" . Any journalist or politician who questioned him would obviously be a traitor and need to be dealt with.
I'm not saying this will happen, or that our military will let it happen (do you want to go down in history as the man who pushed the button that killed a million people, most of them innocent women and children?). I'm just looking at the mindset of a man-child narcissist who has been publicly handed his ass.
solara
(3,836 posts)for rejecting him. trump's entire administration is built on revenge & vindictiveness. He never forgets, he judges people by the degree of their loyalty to him. Nothing matters except that he wins. Since #trumprussia took office he has not been winning, so someone will have to pay. Be wary. When his "Reichstag" moment happens, we must stay brave and resolute and refuse to buy into the fear will encourage. It will be through fear that we finally lose what is left of our freedom.
#resist We have no choice.
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shockey80
(4,379 posts)he could damage obamacare, just out of revenge. He could tell lies that damages peoples reputations and so on. He is not right in the head. He could do anything.
Kittycow
(2,396 posts)Also someone commented on Kos that the individual markets will collapse primarily in the Red States but I didn't click through to read the diary yet.
elleng
(131,006 posts)'With repeal and replace now a hollow vow, Mr. Trump tried to put the best possible face on a major defeat and confined his public criticism to Democrats.'
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/24/us/politics/trump-white-house-health-care.html?