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KelleyKramer

(8,969 posts)
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 12:57 AM Mar 2017

Trump/Russia ... if this is true it's flat out Treason!!


If this is true it's even worse than I suspected.

There has already been so much revealed about Russian ties with many top Trump aids/advisers

But check out this twitter thread that was copied and posted to dailykos

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/23/1646686/-RussiaGate-blows-WIDE-OPEN-in-Abrahamson-report-High-crimes-and-misdemeanors-by-Trump-Sessions

I don't know anything about Seth Abramson so I'm taking it with a grain of salt, but it sure does connect most of the dots

If this is true then Trump and his top advisers are guilty of Treason!

Over and over I keep thinking back to 2 days after the election when Trump went to the White House, and Trump had this permanent scared shitless look on his orange face


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Trump/Russia ... if this is true it's flat out Treason!! (Original Post) KelleyKramer Mar 2017 OP
From what Rachel reported tonite it looks very bad for them. triron Mar 2017 #1
Tillerson! Johnny2X2X Mar 2017 #2
Bud McFarlane is involved? Yavin4 Mar 2017 #3
Yep, those guys just keep showing up in crooked deals KelleyKramer Mar 2017 #8
Recidivism Yavin4 Mar 2017 #18
Holy shit....how is he involved? Pachamama Mar 2017 #15
He was at the Mayflower party with Trump and the Russians Yavin4 Mar 2017 #19
I thought that treason could only be called during time of war. Doreen Mar 2017 #4
Recommended. H2O Man Mar 2017 #5
So Seth can be trusted as a source? KelleyKramer Mar 2017 #6
Generally. H2O Man Mar 2017 #7
Good to know ... KelleyKramer Mar 2017 #11
He just connected dots... he hasn't provided any new information world wide wally Mar 2017 #10
It's coming... Comey knows it has to be airtight before laying down his cards world wide wally Mar 2017 #9
I don't trust Comey KelleyKramer Mar 2017 #12
I certainly agree with you, but it is his job and we can only hope he is NOT a Trump fan either... world wide wally Mar 2017 #13
Not a Trump fan? KelleyKramer Mar 2017 #14
Comey and Flynn enid602 Mar 2017 #16
Here again is the original Stern story - much more comprehensive and Abramson's inspiration... jmg257 Mar 2017 #17

Johnny2X2X

(19,074 posts)
2. Tillerson!
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 01:18 AM
Mar 2017

Tillerson is the Russian connection. Exon-Russia merger that Obama nixed caused them to hack the election. Then Trump names Tillerson SoS, INSANE!!!!

KelleyKramer

(8,969 posts)
8. Yep, those guys just keep showing up in crooked deals
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 02:09 AM
Mar 2017

It's not in this group of tweets, but ... Manafort has ties to James Baker that go back decades

These kind of criminals seem to gravitate to each other

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
15. Holy shit....how is he involved?
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 04:36 AM
Mar 2017

I'm feeling sick because he and his wife were good friends of my father and know them since I was in highschool after moving to the DC area from Germany. His wife was even a teacher of mine at highschool. I thought back during Iran Contra "how is it possible he could do this?" And I always thought he reflected the anti-Soviet view point of the Reagan administration. That he now appears 30 plus years and is involved with this cabal, makes me sick.

Yavin4

(35,443 posts)
19. He was at the Mayflower party with Trump and the Russians
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 12:01 PM
Mar 2017

From the article:

12) Another VIP at the event was Iran-Contra figure Bud McFarlane, one of America's chief advocates for a bargain with Russia on oil access.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
4. I thought that treason could only be called during time of war.
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 01:28 AM
Mar 2017

We may be able to call him a traitor but isn't that the same? I think Tillerson is swimming deep in it. Hell he is probably the deepest.

KelleyKramer

(8,969 posts)
11. Good to know ...
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 02:37 AM
Mar 2017

I wasn't sure about the guy, if you say he's ok then that's good enough for me

Been reading your posts for years, good to see you around!

KelleyKramer

(8,969 posts)
12. I don't trust Comey
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 03:45 AM
Mar 2017

He is a rightwing hack going all the way back to the Senate Whitewater investigations

And of course what he did right before the election

I hope you are right, but I just do not trust him

world wide wally

(21,748 posts)
13. I certainly agree with you, but it is his job and we can only hope he is NOT a Trump fan either...
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 03:52 AM
Mar 2017

which he at least "appears" not to be.

KelleyKramer

(8,969 posts)
14. Not a Trump fan?
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 04:24 AM
Mar 2017


Comey came out with a bunch of bullshit to hurt Hillary right before the election

And he 'appears' not to be a Trump fan?

Really?


enid602

(8,627 posts)
16. Comey and Flynn
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 07:42 AM
Mar 2017

And also, Flynn, after registering as a foreign agent after the fact, disclosed in the form that he paid $28K to Agent McCaulley (the one who raided Houma Abedin's computer without a warrant) just weeks before the raid. This is all much too wild. Wonder who might have paid/extorted Comey.

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
17. Here again is the original Stern story - much more comprehensive and Abramson's inspiration...
Sat Mar 25, 2017, 08:31 AM
Mar 2017

This is like a must read. Co-exists with the Buzzfeed Dossier nicely too.

https://medium.com/@grantstern/trump-russia-dossier-decoded-yes-there-really-was-a-massive-oil-deal-e33370349b67#.nfm8ho4s1

Trump Russia Dossier Decoded: Yes, There Really Was A Massive Oil Deal (UPDATED)

Circumstantial evidence strongly indicates that President Donald J. Trump and his campaign associates brokered a massive oil privatization deal, where his Organization facilitated a global financial transaction to sell Russian Oil stock to its Syrian War adversary, the Emirate of Qatar.
...
Donald Trump and Russia conducted the transaction in three phases; Phase 1 began in early 2016 with a meeting of the minds at The Mayflower Hotel to start the deal and a due diligence period, Phase 2 began just before the Republican National Convention and continued through Election Day, and Phase 3 happened after Trump’s shocking win and concluding just days before Buzzfeed published the bombshell dossier describing the deal.

The end result allowed Russia to trade stolen emails to help to Donald Trump’s election campaign (as well as that of many Republican Congressmen), in exchange for help circumventing American sanctions to transact the sale of Rosneft, which Putin desperately needed to finance his budget deficit.

The Rosneft transaction also purportedly sent a $500 million dollar brokerage fee to Carter Page, or perhaps the Trump Organization.



Here is a comment from CNFI about the April event, downplaying trump interaction with guests, and Kislyak as being just another one of 4 ambassadors; of course trump wouldn't need to be the one in detailed meets with all these people, would he?...
http://nationalinterest.org/feature/statement-regarding-president-trumps-april-27-2016-foreign-19715
As the host, the Center for the National Interest decided whom to invite and then issued the invitations. The Trump campaign did not determine or approve the invitation list. Guests at the event included both Democrats and Republicans, with some among the latter supporting other candidates. Most of the guests were Washington-based foreign policy experts and journalists.
The Center for the National Interest invited Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and several other ambassadors to the speech. We regularly invite ambassadors and other foreign representatives to our events to facilitate dialogue. Ambassador Kislyak was one of four foreign ambassadors who attended the speech that day. We seated all four in the front row during the speech in deference to their diplomatic status. The Trump campaign had nothing to do with the seating arrangement.
...


And here is another CNFI report confirming the (strange?) mix of ambassadors, and some attendees..
https://cftni.org/recent-events/donald-trump-delivers-foreign-policy-speech/

Zalmay Khalilzad, former U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations, Afghanistan and Iraq, introduced Mr. Trump. Ambassador Khalilzad is also one of the members of The National Interest advisory council and the Center’s board of directors. Center Chairman General Charles Boyd, board members Drew Guff, Grover Norquist and President Dimitri Simes also took part. Other participants included Senator Jeff Sessions, several Members of the House of Representatives and the ambassadors of Italy, the Philippines, Russia and Singapore. The full text of Mr. Trump’s remarks can be found below:
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