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brooklynite

(94,727 posts)
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:31 PM Mar 2017

BREAKING: WH/Freedom Caucus deal falls apart

White House gives "final offer" to Freedom Caucus: no deal reached yet

The Freedom Caucus meeting with President Trump is over, and members say they failed to reach a deal. Chief Deputy Whip Patrick McHenry told reporters on the scene the caucus has been presented a "final offer."

https://www.axios.com/freedom-caucus-members-say-no-deal-after-white-house-meeting-2326675797.html



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BREAKING: WH/Freedom Caucus deal falls apart (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2017 OP
Art of the Deal, my ass C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #1
His "art" of dealing basically means bullying to get your way... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #9
Ya, I just thought that too, negotiations y ass, it's outright bullying. eom a kennedy Mar 2017 #16
Exactly. And had he started out like most Americans Quixote1818 Mar 2017 #27
They should vote no, keep their Obamacare coverage... dchill Mar 2017 #2
Does "nothing new offered" mean Trump tried "pass this Bill or I'll be a loser" argument? brooklynite Mar 2017 #3
Um...yeah...that's pretty much spot on! Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #28
"Haw-Haw" FSogol Mar 2017 #4
Art of The Fail.. HipChick Mar 2017 #5
Art of the LOSER! Buns_of_Fire Mar 2017 #31
This will fall on McConnell and Ryan's shoulders. After years on wasted congressional repeal votes. ffr Mar 2017 #6
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha Marthe48 Mar 2017 #7
How did those two evil, ugly bastards ever find a wife? Elwood P Dowd Mar 2017 #12
It's not about love, it's about procreation defacto7 Mar 2017 #18
THAT, defacto7, made me spit out my tea. MontanaMama Mar 2017 #21
Who could have predicted that the crazies and the totally batshit crazies couldn't compromise? NT Girard442 Mar 2017 #8
Epic fail! mcar Mar 2017 #10
Tired of WINNING yet??? MFM008 Mar 2017 #11
it should be remembered they are not trying to make the bill better but to make it worse dembotoz Mar 2017 #13
Depends on what you mean by "better"... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #33
I think that's what the poster means mythology Mar 2017 #34
I disagree... Wounded Bear Mar 2017 #35
It ain't over LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #14
Sad! nt Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2017 #15
Well, since there is no plan "B"..... Chakaconcarne Mar 2017 #17
I'm looking forward to seeing Spicer eat his words next time! randome Mar 2017 #22
So much for the great dealmaker! greatauntoftriplets Mar 2017 #19
I hope Ryan postpones the vote until next week... yellowcanine Mar 2017 #20
Beware! The Blob! randome Mar 2017 #23
"Freedom Caucus" - Why do these bozos always pick these lie - names for their groups? NBachers Mar 2017 #24
Have you read 1984? nt marybourg Mar 2017 #29
Trump can't Deal a deck of cards. He is horrible JDC Mar 2017 #25
Talking about being crushed by its own weight.. busterbrown Mar 2017 #26
I'm not feeling real comfortable hibbing Mar 2017 #30
McConnell is overjoyed, but doesn't have that expression in his playbook. elfin Mar 2017 #32

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
9. His "art" of dealing basically means bullying to get your way...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:44 PM
Mar 2017

not as effective in government, when he doesn't have any real power to wield.

37% approval don't buy a lot of votes for folks staring at both being primaried and opposed in the general.

Quixote1818

(28,968 posts)
27. Exactly. And had he started out like most Americans
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:30 PM
Mar 2017

using power and cash as leverage doesn't get you shit when you don't have any to start with.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,194 posts)
31. Art of the LOSER!
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:56 PM
Mar 2017
The definitive history of the Donald Rump Residency, soon to be a major motion picture.

(Yeah, Rumpy, I just called you a LOSER. LOSER, LOSER, LOSER. Whatcha gonna do about it, chucklenuts?)

Marthe48

(17,018 posts)
7. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:40 PM
Mar 2017

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha(breathe)hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Elwood P Dowd

(11,443 posts)
12. How did those two evil, ugly bastards ever find a wife?
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:01 PM
Mar 2017

Who in hell would want to wake up each morning looking at that?

dembotoz

(16,832 posts)
13. it should be remembered they are not trying to make the bill better but to make it worse
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:01 PM
Mar 2017

and if the soulless bastards win the rest of us loose

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
33. Depends on what you mean by "better"...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:03 PM
Mar 2017

for Ryan and the far righties, better just means fewer tax dollars spent on helping people, and more dollars shoveled off to the top 2%. So in their minds, this bill fucking brilliant.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
34. I think that's what the poster means
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 05:20 PM
Mar 2017

The Freedumb caucus wants to take the already horrid AHCA bill and make it worse. They are voting against it because Ryan's bill isn't shitty enough for their tastes.

I like how Republicans are finding it so difficult to actually govern. I'm hoping it might make them grow up and realize that being petulant doesn't actually accomplish anything.

Wounded Bear

(58,706 posts)
35. I disagree...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 07:23 PM
Mar 2017

The HFC wants to repeal and.....nothing. Full stop. End of sentence.

They are philosophically against any form of government assistance to individuals. A big part of the Repubs problem stems from this. HFC is unwilling to compromise because they are the worst kind of ideologues. They know they are right and want to bring their brand of "tough love" to the American people. Like President Obama said, with them you are on your own.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
22. I'm looking forward to seeing Spicer eat his words next time!
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:46 PM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
20. I hope Ryan postpones the vote until next week...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:42 PM
Mar 2017

Let this thing drag out through the weekend and fill up the Sunday talk shows and town hall events back in the districts. Let the finger pointing and back biting begin!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
23. Beware! The Blob!
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 03:50 PM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Don't underestimate the long-term effects of a good night's sleep.[/center][/font][hr]

hibbing

(10,109 posts)
30. I'm not feeling real comfortable
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:52 PM
Mar 2017

I think they will come back with a bill that allows those junk policies to be sold. Or they will somehow just stop funding it. Plus they still have Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security to slash.

Peace

elfin

(6,262 posts)
32. McConnell is overjoyed, but doesn't have that expression in his playbook.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 04:57 PM
Mar 2017

The mess stays with Trump and Ryan. They will blame anything and any group but themselves or other Repubs. Oh, that's right, OBAMA!!!!

The troubles the ACA is having seems to be mainly for individual policies according to an NPR interview I heard riding home. So isolate that issue and work on it was the logical advice.

But no -- cripple the ACA so it looks more flawed than it is via your own Exec. Orders to basically eliminate the individual mandate for young, healthy (so far) people. Probably some other actions here and there tucked in to other actions to favor the insurance companies and the rich, before replacing more to their liking.

Now home and it seems via Tapper that no vote tonight. Okay - but retract the other items now in place to make the current system be worse than it should be in the interim. Oh sure, like that's gonna happen.

I am already on Medicare and my premiums for the supplemental plus the amount taken for Plan B are getting ridiculous, given that I am in fairly good health. Still I am one of the lucky ones, and am so very grateful.

Cruel for so many others.

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