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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPutin left it up to the American voters on election day? Seriously? LOL
Decades and hundreds of millions of dollars spent by Russia and Putin, planting agents in the field here, some here now for decades, in positions like sitting politicians, high level talk show hosts and celebrities, ELECTION board members, etc.
So you think Trump is harvested for 20 years as the perfect patsy to do their bidding, he actually gets the nomination and then Putin and team left it up to the American voter to decide on election day?
Dont be silly. Of course the election was stolen in those rust belt states, of course people on the ground did whatever had to be done.
THINK about it!
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)and/or celebrities.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)If the real truth ever comes out, you/we will all be shocked.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)MFM008
(19,818 posts)Of him. Ugly toad.
dcbuckeye
(79 posts)Really makes you wonder. Phillip, Elizabeth, Martha... and now daughter Paige getting in on the act.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)the KGB or now it is called something else has been working here.
There is a reason our intelligence community is so concerned, we do it too.
Moostache
(9,897 posts)Clinton won the Philadelphia area by a margin that ALWAYS indicated a PA victory statewide...ALWAYS...and yet in this questionable election, with highly incongruous results and outcomes, and a popular vote lose by staggering total just happened to pull off the impossible?
No, I believe that the rabbit hole here goes waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay beyond the surface that is being scratched right now with collusion and meetings between the campaign and the Russians. There was real voter fraud alright, but it was in the vote COUNTING on election night as much as in the actions leading up to and during the balloting.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)so many people voted but left the prez spot blank, bullshit.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)meow2u3
(24,773 posts)I volunteered on HRC's campaign and I had gotten word from the ground in Philly that poll workers were illegally demanding photo ID from some (read: black) voters, despite the fact that that law was tossed as unconstitutional.
I also got wind of rumors, which may or may not have been true, that Trumpanzees launched a statewide voter intimidation campaign which flew under the radar.
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)NOT the voters doing the fraud. Voter fraud is a myth invented by pubs to justify voter suppression; voter ID laws, etc.
LaydeeBug
(10,291 posts)other demanding proof from their shadows.
This was not the first time.
They've been at this for a while now
Girard442
(6,084 posts)Way, way more than just paying people to say nasty things about Hillary on FaceBook.
eleny
(46,166 posts)The meme I've heard lately on tv that Russia didn't involve itself during the voting leaves me shaking my head. I don't think they planned the candidacy and then left it to chance.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)they seized it when they saw it.
That they have people in place here, by the hundreds or thousands, in ALL areas of life, ALL, is not in question.
eleny
(46,166 posts)I'm with you on the voting day grab.
Amaryllis
(9,525 posts)reg databases. They don't just do that to prove they can and then stop there. I absolutely don't believe they didn't mess with the actual vote count.
Not to mention Interstate Crosscheck and other pervasive voter suppression by the pubs; not to mention issues with unverifiable paperless voting machines still being used in PA and other states.
I think that's why McConnell didn't let Garland come up for a hearing; he knew they had it in the bag.
mythology
(9,527 posts)that were hand recounted versus the counties that were machine recounted? It kind of shoots holes through your theory. Additionally why were the national polls only off by 1 to 2 percent (closer than in 2012) and the individual state polls only off by 2 to 3 percent?
This insipid vote hacking conspiracy nonsense is just as bad as Republicans who rant about in person voter fraud. You offer it up with absolutely zero evidence. If you are going to make an extraordinary claim, you should provide extraordinary evidence.
prolesocialist
(2 posts)Joseph Stalin said "It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes."