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Why are Republicans so cruel to the poor? Paul Ryans profound hypocrisy stands for a deeper problemPaul Ryan has dreamed of slashing Medicaid since his keg-party days and that blithe hostility is widespread
Chauncey DeVega Thursday, Mar 23, 2017 04:00 AM CST
Republican Paul Ryan, like most other members of the United States Congress, is a millionaire.
Christa Patton is 68 years old. She is frail and no longer able to leave her home. She lives on a fixed income. Patton told Van Jones on a recent episode of his CNN show The Messy Truth that she would not be able to eat without the Meals on Wheels program.
Paul Ryan is the speaker of the United States House of Representatives. By his own account, in college he used to hang out with his friends and drink beer while sharing his dreams of cutting Medicaid. When Ryan was 15 years old, his father died from a heart attack caused by alcoholism. Ryan and his family then received his fathers Social Security survivors benefits. Ryan used that money to attend college. This was not the only money that Paul Ryan received from federal government. His family built its wealth from receiving government contracts.
Like his idol Ayn Rand (who argued against the very idea of government and the commons yet received social security and Medicare). Paul Ryan has combined meanness, cruelty and callousness towards the weak and the vulnerable with gross and unapologetic hypocrisy.
Republicans like Ryan along with the millionaires and billionaires who comprise Donald Trumps Cabinet and inner circle literally want to take food, shelter and health care away from poor people like Christa Patton. Todays Republicans view these Americans as useless eaters to be disposed of by means both passive and active.
It is normal to feel aghast at and disgusted by the Republican Partys war on the poor. The more challenging and perhaps even more disturbing task is to ask why todays conservatives feel such antipathy, disregard and hostility towards poor and other vulnerable Americans. Certainly greed and a slavish devotion to a revanchist right-wing ideology are part of the answer. But they may not be sufficient
http://www.salon.com/2017/03/23/why-are-republicans-so-cruel-to-the-poor-paul-ryans-profound-hypocrisy-stands-for-a-deeper-problem/
Corgigal
(9,291 posts)You would think, if you've read any history from anywhere, that this may be dangerous. Guess not, so keep your head ducked cause the rich have to understand again, that gated communities isn't enough to protect you.
The faster people understand that we live in this same place and time. The better we all are, including them. This is the stuff Putin has nightmares over. He's been stealing from the average person for too long. Since the kleptocracy got all of Russian funds, they are on the way to steal ours.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)wake the F up and vote, that balance could be achieved, but they let the republicans take over the political system.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The republicans don't fear the people because they keep electing them!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)a combination of the Stockholm Syndrome and Survival of the Fittest, plus Authoritarianism. It is a primordial instinct, greater in some individuals IMO, of course related to the studies on increased right amygdala size ... in short, some might be so predisposed to fear and hence the republican rhetoric they can not help themselves. That, is a frightening scenario, because no matter how logical discussions might be, they well might be incapable of changing their minds. ... The Lemmings over the cliff scenario.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Racism is at the bottom of it I think.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)also as you say, tribalism reinforced 24/7, etc. There are huge profits in spewing hatred 7x24. I often wonder how we will get out of this downward spiral.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)WW3? A nuclear holocaust? Another great depression?
A rich 1%er that is famous for fucking over the little guy convinced millions of Americans that he would help them and be their champion.
They bought it hook line and sinker. Just like Rayguns, just like Bush its groundhog day for America...again...it never ends!
And now Trump and the republicans begin the vicious assault against the very people that elected them!
Again!!!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)but it's hard to tell WTF we would end up with. Most civilizations eventually collapse/change drastically, nothing lasts forever. Too bad education of the masses is so woefully lacking, they are brain washed so severely. ... and so many people are so severely prejudiced about so many things.
Mariana
(14,860 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)alterfurz
(2,474 posts)meow2u3
(24,772 posts)...because he hides his Satanism behind a twisted, terroristic interpretation of Catholic social teachings--which actually reads like Satanic (anti)social teachings.
All he needs to do is start attending black masses instead of real Masses so as not to be a hyprocrite.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)Paul Ryan would be a better human if he was a practicing Satanist.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Being a fan of Rand doesn't make him a Satanist and it certainly doesn't prove he's not a Christian.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2016/06/07/as-a-catholic-paul-ryan-should-be-ashamed-of-himself-for-endorsing-donald-trump/
Christians cite different parts of the bible to back up their opinions, if you're a liberal you probably prefer to cite the New Testament while conservatives use the Old to justify their political ideology.
That's because Holy books are the Schrödinger's cat of moral guides: they can be used to advocate slavery and honour killings as well as kindness and generosity.
So Christians don't get to disown people like Ryan because they want to pretend their religious affiliation makes them morally superior to non-Christians.
The Satanists I know wouldn't want anything to do with Ryan - but I do know plenty of Christians who agree with his politics.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)It's amazing how people fall all over themselves to criticize a Catholic who once admired Rand even though it's Catholic hospitals that are currently refusing to properly treat women. The Vatican regularly uses hate speech against gay and lesbian parents and trangender people but no - it's the Satanists and atheists who are the bad guys.
Not to mention the Vatican and Catholic hospitals aren't promoting Satanist ideology or atheism - they're promoting 'traditional Christian values'.
And their particular brand of misogyny and homophobia isn't strictly limited to Catholicism either, on the contrary it's accepted and taught to millions of Christians all over the world.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)to watch others suffer and even more so if they've been able to impose that suffering and anguish. Also, their solution is to kill off people through healthcare and poverty. ... but none want to talk to that ... but that is the bottom line of what could happen, millions dead! The writing is on the wall, but many cover their eyes.
bdamomma
(63,922 posts)kind of ethic cleansing, but those billionaires and millionaires are not safe either.....I am not saying anymore.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Some are actually very liberal and very generous and kind.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)But the correct term is sociopath.
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)Bengus81
(6,932 posts)The more you GUT programs to help those who truly need it the more CASH the wealthy can stick in their pockets. Look no furthur than DUMPING the ACA.
HUGE tax cuts for the wealthy if ACA is repealed and that's just a precursor to the INSANE tax cuts Trump wants to give himself and his ilk later in the so called "Tax reform bill". Watch what those in the middle class get--a couple of bucks a week....maybe.
Just like when Bush.idiot did his big tax cut the Dems had a muffler and a Lexus in a news conference. That muffler was what the middle class could buy in a year with a Bush tax cut and a new Lexus for the wealthy.
Buckeye_Democrat
(14,856 posts)and my conjecture is that many of those Americans believe what they WANT to believe.
Acting on faith, many of them like to believe in God and a heavenly afterlife. So much so, that they convince themselves it's true. To be honest, I'd LIKE to believe it too because I enjoy my consciousness as much as the next person, but I'd rather not perform a kind of self-brainwashing on myself to reduce anxiety about it.
Believing that people control their own economic outcomes in life, with little luck involved, is another fantasy that I don't care to entertain in light of contrary evidence. I can understand how some people might consider the "self determination" outlook to be the optimistic one, but if they thoroughly convince themselves that it's true, they might also look for scapegoats when it doesn't pan out for them. (I'm white, and I believe that my fellow whites have been far more willing to accept the self determination myth more readily than many minorities.)
hatrack
(59,592 posts)If you're poor, you're unworthy, obviously. God decided to smite you for your evil ways/liberalism/libertine lifestyle/failure to conform/lack of obedience.
If so, then you're worthy of being fucked over by those whom God has favored - it's divinely ordained - and you probably don't vote, anyway.
Go back a little further in time and it's "Thag, you have many cattle! Gormok the Mighty holds you high in His favor!!"
milestogo
(16,829 posts)The prosperity gospel is a relatively new perversion of Christianity.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)RKP5637
(67,112 posts)Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)What is "n/t" ?
Thanks!
RKP5637
(67,112 posts)It's just a courtesy so if someone is looking at a bunch of headlines/subject lines, they will know there is no text in the body of the message and it was just a comment, so they won't bother taking time looking in the body of the post for more text.
Equinox Moon
(6,344 posts)Now I know. It must have come out of the journalism world.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)poor. You had no competition from women or people of color for jobs that allowed a decent life.
Used to be if you were an able bodied white man, you had no understanding of what it meant to lack opportunity. You thought everyone had it the same as you. White men were much less susceptible to the ills that often come with despair - like addiction - because financially, at least, they were much less likely to be in a desperate situation. When they saw those ills in other segments of society it reinforced their belief that they were somehow more sturdy, more able, better, than those other segments.
All this allowed them to form a belief system in which they were superior and those who they saw around them were lesser beings, needing to be toughened up, undeserving of resources, worthy of being ignored.
Nowadays, though they have more opportunity than women and people of color, they are not the only ones that have opportunity. They have competition. They often do find themselves unable to "pull themselves up by their bootstraps." And we are seeing them fall prey to all those things they used to have a much better immunity to, like addiction, poverty and despair.
Perhaps in a generation, they will develop some ethics with respect to the people they have treated so badly up till now.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)All white men. Got it.
Squinch
(51,004 posts)Or did Democratic men benefit also?
And who is the most loyal demographic in the Republican base? White men.
tazkcmo
(7,300 posts)Squinch
(51,004 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)a free lunch....
of course this attitude doesn't reconcile why wealthy and businesses are given handouts at the expense of the taxpayer....
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)for the 1%.
Everyone else can go to hell though.
beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)so the 1% and corporations never have to pay for their fair share of the cost to society or to our country. Assholes like trump who had years of no taxes going to federal govt but still had the benefit of out laws and protections and our military....not paying a penny to any soldier's paycheck or a veterans healthcare....
they are the definition of PIGS...trump and his kind
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)That's the shell game alright.
meow2u3
(24,772 posts)and they call us the leeches? The 1% are the damn leeches!!
raccoon
(31,119 posts)then received our fathers Social Security survivors benefits. We used that money to attend college.
Strangely, cutting Medicaid never entered my mind. No, I was going to save the world. LOL.
Marthe48
(17,018 posts)give permission for a society that hunts people to kill off millions more. Right now, we are killing each other a few at a time, but the way things are going, there are going to be more mass murders on American soil, not less. Results: the 1% are vastly entertained from their barricaded towers and there are way fewer humans to share what is left of resources.
coco22
(1,258 posts)"LIBERAL" and they get excited when most of them are more liberal than the people who they profess to hate. In other words they hate themselves.
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)out to bankrupt the country. That they don't deserve to survive. In other words, IT'S THEIR FAULT they're in dire straits and none of them should be given handouts.
At least, that's the impression I got after reading one of George Lakoff's books about the repukes.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)The ones who have presided over a huge transfer of wealth away for the poor and middle classes.
It's not possible to win national office as a benevolent Republican. If these exist at all, they are unfunded.