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FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:05 PM Jun 2012

I wanted to start visible a thread about ways to cope with the extreme heat

especially for those who may lose power in the storms that have been rolling through many areas.


My family lived off grid last year and we would often set up a wet sheet in the doorway to bring through some cool air. It really works, especially if the ambient air is hot and dry. Evaporation also helps to cool off a body when a damp tee-shirt is worn. It isn't the most comfortable but it really helps keep a person cooler and helps prevent heat related illness. A small cloth can be dampened and placed on the neck as well.

Food can be kept longer in a shaded, or (even better) buried, cooler and in extreme power outages with intense heat a zeer pot can be made. It requires nesting clay pots with a layer of damp sand between. The item to be cooled is placed within the inner pot and the top covered. As the moisture evaporates it removes the heat from the inner pot. Like all evap. set ups, hot, dry air works best.

These things may seem simple and obvious but there are always some who suffer during extreme heatwaves, especially when their typical coping mechanisms are offline.

If anyone has other coping ideas, please feel free to share them here.

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I wanted to start visible a thread about ways to cope with the extreme heat (Original Post) FedUpWithIt All Jun 2012 OP
Thank you for this thoughtful thread. K&R myrna minx Jun 2012 #1
Find a friend or a family member with power B2G Jun 2012 #2
That might mean traveling for an hour or more in a car. TalkingDog Jun 2012 #5
Power outages rarely take out an entire city B2G Jun 2012 #10
Going negative won't help. GeorgeGist Jul 2012 #112
Well, this is if you still have power, but no AC (we are AC free) TalkingDog Jun 2012 #3
I put cold wash cloths on my wrists sometimes n/t We are Devo Jun 2012 #88
Neck is the best Aerows Jun 2012 #89
We rarely get extreme heat here in the NW, but when we do Arugula Latte Jun 2012 #4
My spray bottle & oscillating fan are my best friends in the summer! CrispyQ Jun 2012 #13
I was just about to post a suggestion that a wet cloth on the back of the neck hedgehog Jun 2012 #6
We close up the house in the am too. FedUpWithIt All Jun 2012 #7
If you don't have decent insulation, go buy some of those cheap-o silver thing-a-ma-bobs MADem Jun 2012 #32
That's a great idea! FedUpWithIt All Jun 2012 #44
It works REALLY well, too. I speak from experience! MADem Jun 2012 #45
That's a really good idea, and one I'm going to look into Aerows Jun 2012 #91
Happy to so do! nt MADem Jul 2012 #100
cheap-o silver thing 'by the meter' at the Grey Jun 2012 #54
If it is cheap, better still! nt MADem Jun 2012 #55
I buy a big roll of the foil insulatin from Home Depot.. about $20.00 fir a large roll. You crunch60 Jul 2012 #109
I only suggested the ones that you use for cars because I am often able to find those things cheap! MADem Jul 2012 #116
My grandfather taught me a trick-- lastlib Jun 2012 #73
Personal air conditioning. MADem Jul 2012 #118
After yesterday's storms, I think everyone should get hold of a NOAA weather radio hedgehog Jun 2012 #8
Even better.... there's an ap for that. Fawke Em Jun 2012 #25
There's a lot of blood flow to the head through the neck.. Fumesucker Jun 2012 #9
Those work; that's why they were designed that way! MADem Jun 2012 #35
Don't shop for perishables when ghastly heat is in the forecast. Fill your fridge and freezer kestrel91316 Jun 2012 #11
Fill up ziploc bags, too Aerows Jun 2012 #90
goto the library hfojvt Jun 2012 #12
Clotheslines are a thing of the past in many neighborhoods. CrispyQ Jun 2012 #15
well, we don't all have privacy fences hfojvt Jun 2012 #20
I have a whirly bird clothes line, been using it for several years, clothes dry very fast crunch60 Jul 2012 #114
Solar Dryers!!! bvar22 Jun 2012 #56
Excellent thread. Here are some thoughts: nolabear Jun 2012 #14
Regarding #5, CrispyQ Jun 2012 #16
30 years in the Arizona desert ThoughtCriminal Jun 2012 #17
We have a couple of battery operated fans as well. FedUpWithIt All Jun 2012 #21
We've got 10 free nights through hotels.com blueamy66 Jun 2012 #29
I love Chandler... B2G Jun 2012 #36
Chandler isn't what it used to be. blueamy66 Jun 2012 #40
I've done that bathtub trick! MADem Jun 2012 #37
Cold water? In Arizona? My hot water marybourg Jun 2012 #67
sing it sister blueamy66 Jun 2012 #94
Do not overcool your home thelordofhell Jun 2012 #18
Bodies also acclimate to a degree and slowly adjusting to warmer temps FedUpWithIt All Jun 2012 #24
Excellent point, this! Acclimate yourself to the heat. patrice Jun 2012 #26
Have our thermostat at 80... blueamy66 Jun 2012 #30
When the outside temps rise above 90, I keep my thermostat set at 7-deg F cooler. That SDjack Jun 2012 #49
The dog is lucky! blueamy66 Jun 2012 #68
We play the spritzing game. Everyone gets to give surprise, gentle spritzes to the others. SDjack Jun 2012 #87
sounds like fun! blueamy66 Jun 2012 #95
In the South...it's called "Iced Tea" Lochloosa Jun 2012 #19
I couldn't last Aerows Jun 2012 #92
Severe heat is dangerous! We tend to think of a hot day as an inconvenience, hedgehog Jun 2012 #22
Stay calm. All sensory experiences should be soothing. Change your active hours if you can to night. patrice Jun 2012 #23
Staying hydrated is the most important thing to remember liberal N proud Jun 2012 #27
I keep at least two tall bottles of water cooling in the frig no_hypocrisy Jul 2012 #107
Good post. Hydrate. emilyg Jun 2012 #28
"Go soak your head" is great advice for hot weather Warpy Jun 2012 #31
"spindles"? patrice Jun 2012 #33
I am curious, too!! nt MADem Jun 2012 #39
maybe yarn spindles? AlecBGreen Jun 2012 #48
Oh! got it! You're a weaver, right? Very awesome! patrice Jun 2012 #38
Ahhhhhh!!! Warp and weft! D'oh! nt MADem Jun 2012 #41
I do the head dunk myself and it is a rapid aid and it's affects are surprisingly long lasting FedUpWithIt All Jun 2012 #43
Yes, when I go swimming on a very hot day, I don't completely dry my hair afterwards Lydia Leftcoast Jun 2012 #46
I take multiple short cold showers when I over heat Marrah_G Jun 2012 #34
Take a cheap cap nadinbrzezinski Jun 2012 #42
Keeping your head Aerows Jun 2012 #98
Wear cotton clothing. progdog Jun 2012 #47
Please, if you see your mail carrier. mailman82 Jun 2012 #50
I will do this. Thanks for the thought. FedUpWithIt All Jun 2012 #51
Offer our workers water.. otherone Jun 2012 #60
Did it yesterday, she looked exhausted when she delivered a package.. Fumesucker Jun 2012 #61
Or your construction workers...handymen etc. Auntie Bush Jun 2012 #71
Always do, and to any worker that is outside. n/t Aerows Jun 2012 #99
a couple ideas AlecBGreen Jun 2012 #52
one more... AlecBGreen Jun 2012 #53
Frozen fruit smoothies--mmmmmm! MADem Jul 2012 #101
If you have an automobile Ezlivin Jun 2012 #57
Unfortunately, my car A/C is not working. RebelOne Jun 2012 #64
It's a silly thing - but you don't really think about the ceiling fans in your home and how strong TBF Jun 2012 #58
some idiot wrote in a news column that ceiling fans dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #86
I just looked and you're right - the ducts are positioned above them TBF Jun 2012 #97
Look to our neighbors in Latin America. bvar22 Jun 2012 #59
Bring your dogs in too - TBF Jun 2012 #62
Paint your roof WHITE! ErikJ Jun 2012 #63
What isn't too good to do in extreme heat- turtlerescue1 Jun 2012 #65
Water, water and more water DearAbby Jun 2012 #66
Don't forget the doggies NNN0LHI Jun 2012 #69
Feel lucky being out WEST... in that AsahinaKimi Jun 2012 #70
yup. Dry heat in LA also Liberal_in_LA Jun 2012 #72
I completely agree with you. emmadoggy Jul 2012 #105
hammocks noamnety Jun 2012 #74
I buy frozen blueberries or rasberries in heavy plastic baggies especially now they are on sale.. nenagh Jun 2012 #75
Stick 'em in a blender with a bit of juice~! nt MADem Jul 2012 #102
I sleep between two damp bathsheets. aquart Jun 2012 #76
If you cover your windows with plastic or shrink-wrap in winter to keep cold out. Don't REMOVE it! Auntie Bush Jun 2012 #77
another good use for bubble wrap, Grey Jun 2012 #81
However, I like shrink-wrap because it's clear and you can still see out the window. Auntie Bush Jun 2012 #85
Move to Minnesota! NickB79 Jun 2012 #78
Outdoor shade dhpgetsit Jun 2012 #79
Eventually, evaporation won't work anymore as the humidity climbs due to global warming NickB79 Jun 2012 #80
neat. i never heard of a zeer pot before. dionysus Jun 2012 #82
It's a great idea Aerows Jun 2012 #96
*OR* You could go find a store like some I HAVE seen here in Cupcake Land, in a strip-mall, with its patrice Jun 2012 #83
Dry Ice Air Conditioner Spitfire of ATJ Jun 2012 #84
That can all work somewhat... Rod Mollise Jun 2012 #93
living inside cheyenne mountain might be ok in the near future.... MindMover Jul 2012 #103
If you have food that will spoil, cook it up. Eat cool, light food. freshwest Jul 2012 #104
I'd like to say after 36 years in texas I am used to it Skittles Jul 2012 #106
Wanna lose 1200 Calories a month? crunch60 Jul 2012 #108
put some water out for birds and other animals bananas Jul 2012 #110
Didn't the Romans Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #111
Someone needs to invent a fan Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #113
It'll cost ya thelordofhell Jul 2012 #119
It uses 85watts Shankapotomus Jul 2012 #120
I've heard what you do is invest in a lot of polluting corporations. raouldukelives Jul 2012 #115
If you have a cast iron tub, fill it with cold water for a cold radiator effect. firehorse Jul 2012 #117
Thanks for all the great ideas! I've learned a few things. FedUpWithIt All Jul 2012 #121

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
5. That might mean traveling for an hour or more in a car.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:12 PM
Jun 2012

What if you don't have a car?
What if you don't have family or friends within a reachable distance?

Things aren't always simple.

 

B2G

(9,766 posts)
10. Power outages rarely take out an entire city
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:18 PM
Jun 2012

We were without power due to a major ice storm for 6 days...our neighbors across the street had power. It was widespread, but definitely spotty.

Of course this isn't an option for everyone. No option ever is. But if it's doable, I recommend it. People underestimate how quickly heatstroke can come on.

And don't forget your pets.

TalkingDog

(9,001 posts)
3. Well, this is if you still have power, but no AC (we are AC free)
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:09 PM
Jun 2012

Wet a wash cloth, wring it out and put it in the freezer until it stiffens up. You can form it around your head for a cool off.

Ice packs anywhere on your body will give you some relief, but especially in the leg/groin joints, armpits, neck, since the blood vessels are concentrated there.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
89. Neck is the best
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:15 PM
Jun 2012

I learned that during the month and a half in high heat with no electricity or water during the aftermath of Katrina. Wrap an ice cube in a cloth and put it to the back of your neck, and it's like a personal air conditioner, at least for a little while.

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
4. We rarely get extreme heat here in the NW, but when we do
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:10 PM
Jun 2012

I carry around a spray water bottle to dampen my hair, skin and clothes and anyone else who wants a spritz. (We get dry heat, though, so it evaporates.)

CrispyQ

(36,525 posts)
13. My spray bottle & oscillating fan are my best friends in the summer!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:31 PM
Jun 2012

No air, no swam cooler. We reached 94° in the house the other day! Went through a bottle & a half of water. The dog loves to get wet-head & sit in front of the fan.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
6. I was just about to post a suggestion that a wet cloth on the back of the neck
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:12 PM
Jun 2012

can be a fine thing on hot days!


If you're willing to take the long view and some risk in wind storms - plant trees!

My house is surrounded with oaks, maples, pine trees and locust trees. We are in the shade all day as the sun moves across. The trees in my front yard are tall enough to shade the road out front, even! As a side benefit, my "front "lawn" is mostly moss. It has a Zen garden feel to it!

My kids know to set the fans in the window at night when it drops about 20 degrees. At dawn, the fans are shut down and the curtains drawn. It really does help keep the house a little cooler.

I know there are people with lists for surviving after a hurricane, maybe they can add their very good advice!

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
7. We close up the house in the am too.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:17 PM
Jun 2012

With the cooler air from the evening in the house, we sometimes close up the house, sealing in the cooler air. It really helps if you have decent insulation. Once it begins to warm up we'll open the windows that either get a cross breeze or on the no sun side and keep the sun blocked out.

Some of these things simply take a little forethought and an exchange of ideas.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. If you don't have decent insulation, go buy some of those cheap-o silver thing-a-ma-bobs
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jun 2012

that you put in the front/back window of your car and clip them up to your curtain rod on your windows with the sun streaming in with a few clothespins. It might look like hell, but it'll knock ten degrees off the indoor temp.

You can sometimes find those things for very cheap as loss leaders in groceries, variety stores, home improvement stores, and even the dollar stores.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
45. It works REALLY well, too. I speak from experience!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:31 PM
Jun 2012

Your house looks a little goofy but to hell with it! I did it in an upstairs sleeping area in a micro cottage that got a little hot on the second floor in high summer. It really made the place livable.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
91. That's a really good idea, and one I'm going to look into
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:21 PM
Jun 2012

Now that it is hurricane season down here. Thanks for it

Grey

(1,581 posts)
54. cheap-o silver thing 'by the meter' at the
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jun 2012

hardware store, used to wrap your hot water tank. We use insulated foil wrap in all our bedroom windows as well as the south side of the house in summer and the north in winter.
Cut it large for a pressure fit and it is easy to pop in and out as needed. Works really well.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
109. I buy a big roll of the foil insulatin from Home Depot.. about $20.00 fir a large roll. You
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 05:59 AM
Jul 2012

can cut it to fit it into your windows, then you can just wedge it into the corners and it stays put. At the end of the hot season, I roll up the insulation from each window, and mark it accordingly. Been using the same roll for three years. Because of the insulation on the foil, it really helps to keep the heat out.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
116. I only suggested the ones that you use for cars because I am often able to find those things cheap!
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 12:42 PM
Jul 2012

The ones I used were a buck each at a discount store, and they were made for extra large SUVs and trucks, and did a good job of covering a standard sized window. I guess they weren't moving (not enough gas guzzler customers), so I bought a half dozen of 'em. They were gold on one side, silver on the other, and MASSIVE. They had a little dipsy-doodle in 'em where the rear view mirror pokes through, but they also had a little hanging elastic on 'em that I used on one side to secure them (clothespin on the other) and they were finished all around with some artsy-fartsy bias tape!

The foil insulation would surely look neater, but we only do this for two months a year, pretty much, so we don't mind looking a bit...eclectic!

lastlib

(23,290 posts)
73. My grandfather taught me a trick--
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:58 PM
Jun 2012

When he would be in the field on a hot day, he would go down to the creek and soak his shirt in water, and wear it wet. It would keep him cool until it dried, lather rinse, repeat. Having done some farming in heat, I can vouch that it works well!

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
8. After yesterday's storms, I think everyone should get hold of a NOAA weather radio
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:18 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.nws.noaa.gov/nwr/

I got mine back in 1998 after I slept through a straight line wind storm that took down trees all over and killed people up at the NYS Fairgrounds. I found out yesterday that that storm was considered a derecho, same as what swept through Ohio, West Virginia and the mid-Atlantic yesterday.

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/misc/AbtDerechos/derechofacts.htm

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
25. Even better.... there's an ap for that.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:03 PM
Jun 2012

If you don't have the money to buy a radio (or haven't made your way to the store to purchase batteries), you can always put the NOAA app on your smart phone.

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/noaa-now/id425914352?mt=8

Granted, the phone will eventually need to be charged, but you can always recharge it in your car while you're heading down to the store to get batteries.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
9. There's a lot of blood flow to the head through the neck..
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:18 PM
Jun 2012

A damp cloth over the head and neck and even over the shoulders will help, for me at least keeping the head and neck damp is less bothersome than other parts of my body, YMMV of course.

Something like a Keffieyeh but keep it damp..

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. Those work; that's why they were designed that way!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jun 2012

Get 'em wet, they keep you cool; use the long end to keep the sand out of your nose/mouth--very useful item!

You can also go for a "Modified French Foreign Legion" look with a soggy towel and a baseball cap!

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
11. Don't shop for perishables when ghastly heat is in the forecast. Fill your fridge and freezer
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:23 PM
Jun 2012

instead with water in containers. It increases the thermal mass, helping to keep fridge and freezer cold longer in the event of a power failure.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
90. Fill up ziploc bags, too
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:20 PM
Jun 2012

Particularly if you know a hurricane is coming, that way your freezer stays cold longer, and once it's gone, you still have fresh water and some ice.

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
12. goto the library
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:27 PM
Jun 2012

or for $2 you can swim at a public pool.

What I sorta wonder. In all of this blazing heat, how many in this hot region are using a clothes dryer instead of a clothes line?

CrispyQ

(36,525 posts)
15. Clotheslines are a thing of the past in many neighborhoods.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:36 PM
Jun 2012

Thanks to HOA.

I don't get it. When I was a kid, everyone had a clothesline & there were no privacy fences. Now we all have privacy fences, but clotheslines are not allowed because people don't want to see their neighbor's undies on the line.

Nothing is as nice as getting into a bed with fresh sheets that were line dried!

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
20. well, we don't all have privacy fences
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:55 PM
Jun 2012

Most people probably don't also want to do the extra work of hanging and unhanging.

I just think it is odd. Rather than using the heat (or cold) of nature, we instead add to it.

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
114. I have a whirly bird clothes line, been using it for several years, clothes dry very fast
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 10:04 AM
Jul 2012

in summer. No HOA here. Now I have acquired the plans to make me a solar oven. Energy bill huge here in the desert.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
56. Solar Dryers!!!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:16 PM
Jun 2012


Total Material Cost: $2.95 for coated cable. The rest from scraps

Dollars paid to Energy Corporations.... $0.00

Taxes paid...... $0.00

Non-Renewable Energy Consumed.... Zero

Toxic emissions... Zero

nolabear

(41,991 posts)
14. Excellent thread. Here are some thoughts:
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:33 PM
Jun 2012

1. Stay away from alcohol, no matter how tempting. It's a dehydrant.

2. Cook outdoors and grill up everything grillable right away. Get together with neighbors and eat everyone's perishables first and save all non-perishables.

3. Don't forget the critters. Keep them near water and in the shade, outdoors if possible.

4. Check in on any disabled or elderly you know about. Heat causes confusion and they may need help.

5. Siesta, siesta, siesta.

6. Get a battery-free emergency radio. Sometimes stores make things like ice available and it's good to know.

CrispyQ

(36,525 posts)
16. Regarding #5,
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:38 PM
Jun 2012

will America get it's act together on this one, as the lower altitudes heat up? I doubt it. Outside of retail, corporate America can't think outside the 8-5 box.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,049 posts)
17. 30 years in the Arizona desert
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jun 2012

When the power goes out, you need to be prepared.

I have a couple of fans that can run on batteries. I also have a battery pack with an inverter than could power a small fan for quite a long time.

I fill empty space in the freezer with plastic bottles of ice.

When all else fails, fill the bathtub with cold water and get in.

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
21. We have a couple of battery operated fans as well.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

We have both hand held and window. They made quite a difference when we used them last summer.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
29. We've got 10 free nights through hotels.com
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:10 PM
Jun 2012

If the power goes out here in Chandler, AZ, we're going to a hotel and hanging out.

We have bottles of water in both freezers and 2 extra bags of ice cubes.

And forget the "not drinking alcohol". That's the only way to survive an AZ summer!

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
40. Chandler isn't what it used to be.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:22 PM
Jun 2012

But it works right now.

Have you seen the "new" "old" downtown? It's the place to be nowadays.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
37. I've done that bathtub trick!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:19 PM
Jun 2012

Also, if you've got a kiddie pool for the young 'uns, drag it under a tree (or patio umbrella) for shade and fill 'er up! Lounge in the pool and read a book!

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
18. Do not overcool your home
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jun 2012

The reaction from people who are experiencing their first real heat event is to set the thermostat way lower than you should in order to be reaaaallllly cold. Don't do it, it strains your AC unit badly and increases the odd chance of failure. Keep your temp indoors in the mid 80's when its over 100 outside. If you want to be cool, take a cold shower or fill your bathtub with cold water then dip in it..........and don't dry yourself off. Remember, it's just water, it won't hurt most furniture and dries quickly.

Good luck to all my fellow DU pals experiencing the unusual heat.

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
24. Bodies also acclimate to a degree and slowly adjusting to warmer temps
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:02 PM
Jun 2012

is more bearable than a sudden shift IMHO. Much better to keep the environment comfortable, and not overly cool for this reason as well.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
49. When the outside temps rise above 90, I keep my thermostat set at 7-deg F cooler. That
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:54 PM
Jun 2012

reduces the relative humidity, which increases the cooling effectiveness of the breathing system. For outside temps above 100 deg-F, I fill a quart bottle with a fine mist sprayer and find shade outside. Or, I use a garden hose to spritz everybody. I also use two neckerchiefs -- one as a neck wetter and the other as a wet pirate head cloth. My dog gets spritzed every 5-10 minutes.

SDjack

(1,448 posts)
87. We play the spritzing game. Everyone gets to give surprise, gentle spritzes to the others.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:08 PM
Jun 2012

Work very well when we were RVing in Hell's Canyon in August, 2010. Temp in the shade was 115 deg-F. A good spritzing helped us thru the day.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
95. sounds like fun!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:09 PM
Jun 2012

Last edited Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:05 PM - Edit history (1)

gonna go to the Dollar Store and buy some spritzers today!

on edit: and changed my thermostat to 82!

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
92. I couldn't last
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:28 PM
Jun 2012

Without copious amounts of Iced Tea... day or night, winter or summer. I like mine unsweetened and preferably, decaf, but always in huge quantities.

hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
22. Severe heat is dangerous! We tend to think of a hot day as an inconvenience,
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 01:57 PM
Jun 2012

but last year 226 people were recorded as having died from heat exposure:

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/om/hazstats.shtml


I'm not sure if that number captured all the deaths from heart attacks, etc.

Google "Heat deaths" and you'll see a page of stories, 2 or 3 deaths here, 3 or 4 deaths there.

The very young and the old are more susceptible. Also - certain prescriptions interfere with your ability to sweat. Be aware your heat tolerance may have dropped!

patrice

(47,992 posts)
23. Stay calm. All sensory experiences should be soothing. Change your active hours if you can to night.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:02 PM
Jun 2012

Sweat is okay.

Move around gently to allow sweat to evaporate.

A direct fan and sweat is even better, but don't sit too much.

When you hose the dog down, don't be embarrassed to turn the hose on yourself.

Skirts, dresses, and loose fitting clothes. Minimal underwear. Bare or nearly bare feet.

Think of your pioneering ancestors; tell yourself you're okay, frequently.

Sing.

Outside in shade is probably better than inside a box.

Treat yourself to your favorite foods if you can preferably with others in the same situation. Read pleasant or interesting stuff to one another aloud.

If you must be inside, the southeast corner, if there is one, of your house/apartment or whatever is likely to catch better whatever breezes there are and to be protected best from the pm sun.

If you can put ice in water to drink, try to use a large glass container, so you can feel the pleasing condensation on the outside of it.

Hold a few ice cubes for a while and then rub your face and feet with your cold wet hands.

And even if you can't get ice water, drink all of the water you can stand anyway.

liberal N proud

(60,346 posts)
27. Staying hydrated is the most important thing to remember
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:08 PM
Jun 2012

Drink plenty of water. Stay in the shade, sometimes that may be outside.

Sleeping is the worst part.

no_hypocrisy

(46,193 posts)
107. I keep at least two tall bottles of water cooling in the frig
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 02:42 AM
Jul 2012

and take regular swigs from them to keep myself comfortable.

Warpy

(111,352 posts)
31. "Go soak your head" is great advice for hot weather
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:11 PM
Jun 2012

and is usually the first thing I do when heat has me starting to feel woozy. Wet hair cools me down for an hour or two, depending on the humidity. A spray bottle for spritzing myself down works, but it works better if there is a breeze.

Evaporation works in high relative humidity, too, just not as fast.

I've also been known to pay the fee and take the local tram up to a 10,600 foot mountain top. It's a good fifteen degrees cooler up there and a good place to spend an afternoon with a book or my spindles or just watching the ground squirrels play.

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
43. I do the head dunk myself and it is a rapid aid and it's affects are surprisingly long lasting
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:24 PM
Jun 2012

but some people should take care because the sudden change in temp can cause a person to have temporary disorientation and/or feel sick.

Lydia Leftcoast

(48,217 posts)
46. Yes, when I go swimming on a very hot day, I don't completely dry my hair afterwards
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:33 PM
Jun 2012

This makes it much more bearable to stand outside waiting for the bus home.

One thing that worked for me in Japan, where I somehow survived without AC for a year: lie down to sleep spread out like a starfish. That way, no part of your body touches any other part.

Wear natural fibers.

Hot countries have the custom of the siesta. When I was in Wenzhou, China, for several days in 1990, our guides would leave us after lunch and tell us that they'd be back at 3:00PM. We soon noticed that the whole city was napping: pedicab drivers sleeping in their pedicabs, seamstresses stretched out on mats under their machines, almost no traffic. Even in the vicinity of Beijing, much farther to the north, but still capable of getting really hot in the summer, a drive through the countryside after lunch would reveal all the farmers sleeping under trees.

If you need your caffeine, stock up on instant ice tea (Twining's has an unsweetened variety) or instant iced coffee mix that you can make with cold water.

Marrah_G

(28,581 posts)
34. I take multiple short cold showers when I over heat
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:16 PM
Jun 2012

Or I'll even sit in a cool bathtub with a book until I cool down. I get heatstroke pretty easy and seem to have lost alot of my ability to self cool since entering the realm of menopause.

even just soaking my feet in cold water can do wonders.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
98. Keeping your head
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:36 PM
Jun 2012

and your neck cool will help more than anything, just like keeping your head and neck warm helps when it is cold. Bunch of blood vessels there .

progdog

(476 posts)
47. Wear cotton clothing.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:40 PM
Jun 2012

Avoid synthetic fabrics. I live in So California desert. 112 yesterday and today. Cotton breaths, synthetics make you feel like your in a plastic bag.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
61. Did it yesterday, she looked exhausted when she delivered a package..
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:23 PM
Jun 2012

She sat for a few minutes and drank ice water in the AC, took a big to go cup with more.

AlecBGreen

(3,874 posts)
52. a couple ideas
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 02:59 PM
Jun 2012

sealing your house in the morning is a good idea. close all windows and draw all shades. close interior doors. when it gets warmer inside than out (around 5-6pm in my house & location) i open the windows to get a breeze going.

drink fluids like gatorade or juice in addition to water. when you sweat, you need to replace more than just water.

if you have a basement, put a box fan in the doorway to suck cool air up into your living space. better yet it you have a furnished basement, spend more time down there.

dont be afraid to ask a neighbor or friend if you can swim. most are happy to oblige. plus its a good way to meet people. the worst they can say is no (hopefully... some ppl can be more colorful )

its obvious but should be restated: if you have to work outdoors try to do the most strenuous activities very early or very late when its cooler. digging trenches in 100F weather is neither fun nor healthy

if you feel weak or dizzy or just 'off' PLEASE take a break. heat stroke & sun poisoning are no joke.

stay cool DUers!

AlecBGreen

(3,874 posts)
53. one more...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:01 PM
Jun 2012

eat 'cooling' foods like salad with oil & vinegar, fresh fruit, etc. stay away from big meals that will draw more blood to your stomach, making cooling more difficult.

ive been told by old timers that chicken is a 'cooling' meat and should be eaten over pork or beef during the hottest days.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
101. Frozen fruit smoothies--mmmmmm!
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:00 AM
Jul 2012

That's a good go-to mini-meal when you don't feel like eating much or cooking~!

Ezlivin

(8,153 posts)
57. If you have an automobile
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:19 PM
Jun 2012

You can use its A/C to cool down. This can be a lifesaver if your power is out.

RebelOne

(30,947 posts)
64. Unfortunately, my car A/C is not working.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:26 PM
Jun 2012

I think it needs gas. Fortunately, my home A/C is working. But I cannot drive in the afternoon. Any errands I have I do in the morning before it heats up. I just don't want the hassle of dropping my car off at the garage, plus it will cost money I do not have at this time.

TBF

(32,100 posts)
58. It's a silly thing - but you don't really think about the ceiling fans in your home and how strong
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:20 PM
Jun 2012

they are at max speed. They are very common here in the south but I usually run ours at a lower or maybe medium setting. Last week I turned both up to high (family room and master bedroom) and could tell the difference within hours. Fans take electricity too but it shouldn't be as costly as the AC.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
86. some idiot wrote in a news column that ceiling fans
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jun 2012

should not be run unless you are sitting under them, otherwise you are "wasting electricity".

BS

We have ceiling Air/heat ducts in the house with ceiling fans near them.
The cool air coming from the ducts gets distributed faster if I have the ceiling fans on.
Works same in winter for warmth.
And I crank them up when I need to. Can tell right away the difference, even if i am not in the room.

TBF

(32,100 posts)
97. I just looked and you're right - the ducts are positioned above them
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:33 PM
Jun 2012

no wonder! It really helped a lot last week and I even had to turn down the bedroom one when it got cooler with the rain today.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
59. Look to our neighbors in Latin America.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:22 PM
Jun 2012

Whenever possible get up EARLY and get the hard jobs done before the HEAT sets in.

Get to cool places (indoors or shaded work areas) between 11AM and Evening Cool Down.
Nap or conserve energy (generate less internal heat) during these hours.

Drink as much water as possible.

TBF

(32,100 posts)
62. Bring your dogs in too -
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jun 2012

some folks still keep their big dogs outside. I keep mine in, but I also have a baby gate to keep them in my large tiled kitchen if I don't want them running all over (they are still young). Also, consider keeping a big bowl of water (and refill it in the afternoon) outside in case some thirsty cats come by your house. The heat is really hard on the animals.

I walk my labs early morning and evening, and they will poke me for walks during the day but I take along water and those walks are always much shorter.

 

ErikJ

(6,335 posts)
63. Paint your roof WHITE!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:24 PM
Jun 2012

extreme solution but it works. Obama DOE guy said it would help curb global warming if everybody did it.

turtlerescue1

(1,013 posts)
65. What isn't too good to do in extreme heat-
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:32 PM
Jun 2012

Just got home from our big parade, it may be up to 4 1/2 minutes NOW. Sat in the back of a small truck/float throwing candy for 55 minutes, with a kitchen terry towel soaked wet and ice within around my neck. ALSO-take a baby aspirin if you get heat headaches. Had a hat on but it blew off. And a cooler with ice and water/pop/tea.

Next year I hope we have the parade at 10 a.m. instead of starting at 1 p.m.!

AND don't throw chocolate candies!

Lot of really good ideas here. Got one of the mesh/screen doors with the magnets, at night open the door to the deck and it seems to provide circulation from the AC into the bedroom.
I love it, but got a long haired dog that REALLY loves it.

Thanks EVERYONE for sharing.

DearAbby

(12,461 posts)
66. Water, water and more water
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:33 PM
Jun 2012

water to Drink, and lots of it.
to bath in..if you have it.

I also use a wet dish towel wrapped around the neck at the jugular, it cools you off quick. Also be placed behind the knees, and at the wrists, also large arteries to cool the blood quick.

To cool the towel, Spin it in the air like a propeller.

NNN0LHI

(67,190 posts)
69. Don't forget the doggies
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jun 2012

We make Gatorade ice cubes for ours when it gets real hot.

Just don't overdo it or they will be peeing all over the place.

Don

AsahinaKimi

(20,776 posts)
70. Feel lucky being out WEST... in that
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 03:43 PM
Jun 2012

Back east extreme heat mixed with Humidity is nasty. Out West, I have been in 100 degree plus days in Arizona, and its all DRY heat. Dry heat to me is more comfortable.. though in places like Arizona, you need an A/C. One thing you never want to do is go barefoot on an extreme heat day...you can probably cook eggs on the black topped asphalt!!

When I was in Upstate, NY and it would get up to 90 degrees, the humidity was horrible. You could hardly breath ..and even running though a sprinkler didn't help much.

I think I am in the best place possible in San Francisco, now. We have fog all summer, the temperatures remain in the mid to upper 60s. If you are down by Fisherman's wharf you get the breezes off the bay. If you are out in the Avenues you get the wind from the Ocean coming in.



Its night time though, when it starts to get really cold in the Summer times. The fog clings around everything, seeps into walls, sweaters, blankets, and chills you to the bone. There is something about very cool temperatures and moisture thick as fog together.
unless you are wrapped up very tight, it will make you shiver all night.


emmadoggy

(2,142 posts)
105. I completely agree with you.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 01:53 AM
Jul 2012

Humidity makes the heat WAAAYYYYY worse and much more intolerable. It is amazing to me how much better I can handle hot temps if the dew point is low (not often here in Iowa!). But if the dew point is high, even 75 degrees can feel yucky, and 90 or 95 is just flat out misery. Hard to breath, headaches, easy exhaustion. I avoid being outside like the plague!

You simply cannot cool off because your sweat doesn't evaporate. And you feel wet and slimy and stinky all the time. Hair goes either completely limp, wavy or frizzy depending in your hair type. I HATE humidity. I live in the wrong state.

I visited San Francisco a few year ago - in May. It was actually slightly cooler there than it was back home in Iowa at that time. I loved the climate there. Dry. Few bugs (it seemed to me). Definitely cool, occasionally chilly. But I could definitely deal with the year-round moderate temps. Anything between 50 and 80 and I'm pretty happy. Unfortunately, here in Iowa during the course of a year, our temps can range from -30 to 105 in the extreme. -20 to 98 is pretty typical in any given year.

We've already had a string of 90 degree days, and the forecast is for the next 7 days to be 90-95 every day. HUMID, of course. And only a few slight chances for rain and we are terribly dry right now. And it's only the end of JUNE. July is usually the worst. UGH.

 

noamnety

(20,234 posts)
74. hammocks
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:02 PM
Jun 2012

a traditional mattress will trap your body heat against you - it's like sleeping with a thick coat on one side of your body.

If you have an outdoor hammock stand, bring it inside to sleep on, or consider getting a cheap camping cot so air can circulate around you while you sleep.

nenagh

(1,925 posts)
75. I buy frozen blueberries or rasberries in heavy plastic baggies especially now they are on sale..
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jun 2012

keep them in the freezer & eat the frozen berries esp at night if the a/c is off & it's very hot...

aquart

(69,014 posts)
76. I sleep between two damp bathsheets.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:07 PM
Jun 2012

With a freezer-frozen bottle of Poland Spring refilled with tap water between my thighs.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
77. If you cover your windows with plastic or shrink-wrap in winter to keep cold out. Don't REMOVE it!
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jun 2012

It also keeps the heat out in summer. The air in your house/room will no longer be touching those hot windows. I can't tell you how excellent this works. I hardly turn my overhead fans on anymore or open windows. Plus it saves lots money and work as you're all set for the coming winter.

Grey

(1,581 posts)
81. another good use for bubble wrap,
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:20 PM
Jun 2012

Clean the window and then spray with water and slap a window size square of bubble wrap on it. The wrap will cling to the window and it adds two layers of insulation. Two layers of bubble wrap, one inside and one outside works even better. Remember to use clear tape to seal all window leaks. It's amazing how much hot or cold air comes in through the edges of our windows.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
85. However, I like shrink-wrap because it's clear and you can still see out the window.
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:41 PM
Jun 2012

No one much notices the windows are covered. My dog broke the bottom of the plastic so I cut it off neatly. I'll tape a piece on in the winter but it still keeps the room air from touching hot windows. Bubble wrap would work even better where you don't have to see out the window or when it's out of sight.. Good suggestion.

dhpgetsit

(1,917 posts)
79. Outdoor shade
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:14 PM
Jun 2012

Under a tree or the shaded by a building but open to the sky is often more comfortable than indoors. Wear a damp shirt, put your bare in water. An old fashion fan helps too. You know the ones that unfold.

NickB79

(19,273 posts)
80. Eventually, evaporation won't work anymore as the humidity climbs due to global warming
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:18 PM
Jun 2012

Beyond approximately 85% humidity, your body can't shed heat via evaporative cooling (ie sweating). At this point it doesn't matter how much water you drink; you still cook to death if you can't find cooler or drier conditions.

At the rate we're burning fossil fuels, it appears much of the planet will reach this threshhold in the next century or two: http://phys.org/news192206610.html

While the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change central estimates of business-as-usual warming by 2100 are seven degrees Fahrenheit, eventual warming of 25 degrees is feasible, he said.

"We found that a warming of 12 degrees Fahrenheit would cause some areas of the world to surpass the wet-bulb temperature limit, and a 21-degree warming would put half of the world's population in an uninhabitable environment," Huber said. "When it comes to evaluating the risk of carbon emissions, such worst-case scenarios need to be taken into account. It's the difference between a game of roulette and playing Russian roulette with a pistol. Sometimes the stakes are too high, even if there is only a small chance of losing."

Steven Sherwood, the professor at the Climate Change Research Centre at the University of New South Wales, Australia, who is the paper's lead author, said prolonged wet-bulb temperatures above 95 degrees would be intolerable after a matter of hours.
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
96. It's a great idea
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 07:31 PM
Jun 2012

For anyone living in low humidity areas. Those of us in the land of high heat and high humidity, however, must look elsewhere.

patrice

(47,992 posts)
83. *OR* You could go find a store like some I HAVE seen here in Cupcake Land, in a strip-mall, with its
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:34 PM
Jun 2012

entire expanse of huge glass front doors fully wide and completely open on 100+ degree days, I guess to show us all how prosperous they all are, you know "If you can afford to air-condition the whole outdoors, perhaps you're mark-up on trashy clothes is a deal too." Just find one of these upscale places and help advertise how well they are doing by taking up residence on the sidewalk as all of that air-conditioning gushes into the parking lot. You may need some cardboard or something to put between you and the super-heated sidewalk though.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
84. Dry Ice Air Conditioner
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 04:35 PM
Jun 2012
http://www.instructables.com/id/Portable-12V-Air-Conditioner---Cheap-and-easy!/

I would recommend the idea of getting a tent as well if all you have are big rooms. Set up the tent indoors. The smaller the area to cool, the better.

Rod Mollise

(18 posts)
93. That can all work somewhat...
Sat Jun 30, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jun 2012

But if you live in areas where the heat is especially severe, and especially if the humidity is high, you need to take more steps, especially if you are older or in poor health. Quite a few cities will open heat shelters, and if you have transportation, a shopping mall can allow you to make it through the worse of the day.

Skittles

(153,193 posts)
106. I'd like to say after 36 years in texas I am used to it
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 02:24 AM
Jul 2012

the truth is though, without AC I'd be as f***ed as the storm folk - my sympathies to all

 

crunch60

(1,412 posts)
108. Wanna lose 1200 Calories a month?
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 05:49 AM
Jul 2012

Drink a liter of ice water a day. You burn the energy just raising the water to body temp, according to
Neil deGrasse Tyson.

I personally drink ice water all day, keeping the body core temperature cold, really helps to keep you cool even on very hot days. Bonus--- you loose calories as well.

bananas

(27,509 posts)
110. put some water out for birds and other animals
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:10 AM
Jul 2012

Sugar water for hummingbirds, plain water for other birds, stray cats, etc.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
111. Didn't the Romans
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:23 AM
Jul 2012

keep the shades shut tight on their homes (so not a speck of sunlight could get through) to keep cool in the summer? I guess the idea behind that is to effectively turn your house into a cave, as caves seem to typically be cool places.

Has anyone tried this?

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
113. Someone needs to invent a fan
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 08:40 AM
Jul 2012

with a hollow tube of coils around the fan grill where one end of the coil hooks up to your fauchet tap and the other end returns the water to the sink. You turn on the fan and cold water and, viola, instant AC!

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
120. It uses 85watts
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 03:05 PM
Jul 2012

If I just get a regular fan and modify it, I could use less power to cool myself. Still not a bad alternative in a pinch.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
115. I've heard what you do is invest in a lot of polluting corporations.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 10:15 AM
Jul 2012

Then when you have made enough money, hopefully before the effects of the massive climate change you are profiting from kick in, you can afford to live in a blissful cocoon of cool breezes.
Also a cool rag on the neck is nice.

firehorse

(755 posts)
117. If you have a cast iron tub, fill it with cold water for a cold radiator effect.
Sun Jul 1, 2012, 12:57 PM
Jul 2012

go back and forth when needed to stand in the tub. Getting feet, hands and face cold, makes things feel instantly better.

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
121. Thanks for all the great ideas! I've learned a few things.
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:52 AM
Jul 2012

I hope that those who've been dealing with the crazy storms (we had one blow through last night) is safe and comfortable.

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