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I can't make head nor tail out of what Nunes has done exactly. (Original Post) MineralMan Mar 2017 OP
It's not you leftynyc Mar 2017 #1
Nevermind Denmark.. HipChick Mar 2017 #2
I can't figure out what's going on either. Vinca Mar 2017 #3
I think he's desperately trying to Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #4
or from the loss MFM008 Mar 2017 #19
And I think you are right. janx Mar 2017 #23
Me too. The RW press wil package this so anything else is FAKE NEWS underpants Mar 2017 #30
But he also acknowledged that the surveillance was legal Proud Liberal Dem Mar 2017 #32
He did sound out of breath and panicky. . . n/t annabanana Mar 2017 #40
He's scared to use the phone Thrill Mar 2017 #5
Yup, this is the side note. Renew Deal Mar 2017 #13
I hope that is the case Catherine Vincent Mar 2017 #17
Sounds like Nunes is in panic mode. MineralMan Mar 2017 #21
GET THE PAPER SHREDDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SummerSnow Mar 2017 #29
LOL. That's awesome. underpants Mar 2017 #31
Nunes is trying to insinuate that Trump was right that KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #6
Thanks for the synopsis. I couldn't make head or tails of it. Vinca Mar 2017 #12
I'm just starting to get a fuzzy picture, MineralMan Mar 2017 #14
Never forget that Nunes himself was on KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #20
Everyone is saying he was on trumps team, but last week was the first time I ever heard of him yeoman6987 Mar 2017 #53
He was on the executive committee of Trump's team, yeoman6987, hardly low level. Kingofalldems Mar 2017 #55
Thanks! Catherine Vincent Mar 2017 #24
Thanks for the clarity ... PsychoBabble Mar 2017 #26
and @20committee nt pkdu Mar 2017 #27
damn I was just going to post the same thing! librechik Mar 2017 #7
He's making the possibility of an independent prosecutor all but a done deal. randome Mar 2017 #8
+Infinity - nt KingCharlemagne Mar 2017 #25
A done deal? truebluegreen Mar 2017 #37
Ah, but Sessions is recused from this. randome Mar 2017 #44
someone gave him info about white house/russia investigation and he ran to trump with it. spanone Mar 2017 #9
I know, but that doesn't help. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #57
Tough to do right now but basically Renew Deal Mar 2017 #10
OK, so Nunes is leaking shit after whining about leaking shit yesterday. MineralMan Mar 2017 #16
AND WHY THE HELL DIDN'T HE BRIEF THE DEMS ON THE COMMITTEE BEFORE a kennedy Mar 2017 #11
I am waiting for Schiff to put him in his place. I bet he is pissed! Glimmer of Hope Mar 2017 #18
He's a tRump repub. He don't need no stinkin briefings. old guy Mar 2017 #22
hes hesitating, searching... MFM008 Mar 2017 #15
"Hey, look over there! That shiny thing is shinier!" Warpy Mar 2017 #28
Nunes was on Transition Team right? mchill Mar 2017 #33
But he wanted to be seen going to WH mchill Mar 2017 #34
Wouldn't it be funny if they set Nunes up! Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #35
Bottom line for me is that he appears to be working for the WH rather OldHippieChick Mar 2017 #36
Think he's saying "Sure the Trump team was surveilled, but only incidentally and legally" bigbrother05 Mar 2017 #38
He's shown how arrogantly stupid he is. How provincial and shallow they all are. haele Mar 2017 #39
This is a very cogent synopsis. annabanana Mar 2017 #41
Love that reference! FakeNoose Mar 2017 #46
worthy of an OP. well put. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #49
This is incidential collection Gothmog Mar 2017 #42
This is a smoke incendiary device -- he's got Donald's back and aside from his personal panic, LuckyLib Mar 2017 #43
He may be rewarded with a favorable cell assignment in jail. KittyWampus Mar 2017 #50
Yea oldtime dfl_er Mar 2017 #51
A toast to them all being in the same prison. LuckyLib Mar 2017 #56
Derpy McDerp though he was helping Trump, while actually implying criminal activity. Oops. TheBlackAdder Mar 2017 #45
tag .. nunes Ohioblue22 Mar 2017 #47
Added to the coverup, IMHO. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2017 #48
Trying to counter the Manafort news lede. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2017 #52
NUNES ANSWERED A QUESTION THAT WAS NEVER ASKED !!! uponit7771 Mar 2017 #54
He leaked classified info to the target of an investigation before he shared it will his committee. McCamy Taylor Mar 2017 #58

HipChick

(25,485 posts)
2. Nevermind Denmark..
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:24 PM
Mar 2017

Something is really stinking in the WH...Trump et al are a dark cloud across this land

Vinca

(50,279 posts)
3. I can't figure out what's going on either.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:26 PM
Mar 2017

Amazing. I go about my business for a couple of hours and come back and all hell has broken out again.

Sculpin Beauregard

(1,046 posts)
4. I think he's desperately trying to
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:27 PM
Mar 2017

deflect the story from "Trump admin colluding with Russia" to "Trump admin. being surveilled illegally". He's trying to pivot the story, and he's doing it unilaterally, without approval.

janx

(24,128 posts)
23. And I think you are right.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:38 PM
Mar 2017

It's just hard to tell, initially, from some of the out-of-context posts in GD today.

Thrill

(19,178 posts)
5. He's scared to use the phone
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:29 PM
Mar 2017

He had to tell them in person, the FBI has everything. All the conversations. Full on coverup mode now. Destroy all evidence. no more bullshitin. He's telling Trump, we're fucked.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
21. Sounds like Nunes is in panic mode.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:37 PM
Mar 2017

People make very bad decisions when they're panicky. I hope that's the case.

Maybe it's all about to blow up in their faces. Hasten the day!

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
6. Nunes is trying to insinuate that Trump was right that
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:31 PM
Mar 2017

Obama really was wiretapping him.

Problem for that lying little fuck Nunes is the timeline: Trump alleged that Obama wiretapped him during the "sacred election season' (October). But TrumpCo associates were picked up incidentally or as named subjects of FISA warrants during November, December and January.

Bottom line:

Obama did NOT wiretap Trump.

TrumpCo Associates may have been the subjects of FISA warrants, in which case those warrants were issued via DUE PROCESS OF LAW.

Nunes in revealing this (despite his lying spin on it) has now divulged classified information without proper authority to do so and is thus criminally liable for it.

How's that?

 

KingCharlemagne

(7,908 posts)
20. Never forget that Nunes himself was on
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:37 PM
Mar 2017

Trump's transition team.

For him to be receiving classified briefings about the FBI investigation when he himself may be a subject of the same investigation simply boggles the mind and screams out for a Special Prosecutor.

I hope Comey and the FBI have the goods on Nunes and that he goes down

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
53. Everyone is saying he was on trumps team, but last week was the first time I ever heard of him
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:43 PM
Mar 2017

What position did he have? Must have been very low.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
8. He's making the possibility of an independent prosecutor all but a done deal.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:32 PM
Mar 2017

Not by choice.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
37. A done deal?
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:51 PM
Mar 2017

Iirc an independent prosecutor has to be appointed by Atty General or Congress. Given that all of the above (those in charge) are shameless cretins, how likely is that?

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
44. Ah, but Sessions is recused from this.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:09 PM
Mar 2017

Sure, they are all complicit but public pressure will now be immense. They won't have any choice but to appoint someone and hope he/she doesn't follow the right trails.
[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
57. I know, but that doesn't help.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:21 PM
Mar 2017

Congress with R majorities is no better--yesterday at the hearing their laser focus was on leaks, not on cooperation or collusion. No one they agree to appoint will be independent or diligent.

Renew Deal

(81,863 posts)
10. Tough to do right now but basically
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:33 PM
Mar 2017

He received "reports" from a mysterious someone that "came forward." The reports are that there was a FISA warrant against someone. There was incidental collection of people connected to Trump. The names of people were "unmasked" in the report by someone. Nunes went to see Trump. Nunes did not inform Schiff.

Summary: Someone leaked info to Nunes and he went to Trump and the media.

MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
16. OK, so Nunes is leaking shit after whining about leaking shit yesterday.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:36 PM
Mar 2017

Makes sense, I guess, if you are a Republican. To me, it looks like a panic reaction. If that's the case....BOOM!

a kennedy

(29,675 posts)
11. AND WHY THE HELL DIDN'T HE BRIEF THE DEMS ON THE COMMITTEE BEFORE
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:34 PM
Mar 2017

running to tRump.......and sorry for yelling......

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
15. hes hesitating, searching...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:35 PM
Mar 2017

or making stuff up along the way.
Simply to give BLOTUS cover for his wiretapping claims.

Does anyone else feel a constitutional crises???

Warpy

(111,277 posts)
28. "Hey, look over there! That shiny thing is shinier!"
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:41 PM
Mar 2017

is about all I'm getting from all Dolt45's flacks these days.

I'm being a bad news junkie, tuning out a lot of it in favor of much more interesting world news.

Nothing here is going to get interesting unless Comey starts to release all the stuff his arse has been clamped on for the last eight months.

mchill

(1,018 posts)
33. Nunes was on Transition Team right?
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:46 PM
Mar 2017

And they were caught up in surveillance - maybe as part of the "unmasked names." He has nothing to lose because he's involved? He's in a very safe Republican district...won his seat by over 70%. Warning Trump et al that they are being surveilled. Confusing the issue of "Obama wiretapping" and giving political cover.

So many possibilities.

mchill

(1,018 posts)
34. But he wanted to be seen going to WH
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:48 PM
Mar 2017

As Brian Williams said, there were plenty of side doors to get into the West Wing. He also lingered for questions. I like how he didn't mention this didn't have anything to do with "Obama wiretapping" tweets until he was asked.a

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
35. Wouldn't it be funny if they set Nunes up!
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:50 PM
Mar 2017

If this is nothing but a way to force an independent investigation.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
36. Bottom line for me is that he appears to be working for the WH rather
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:50 PM
Mar 2017

than the Legislative branch. This isn't just a violation of some protocol, but a breach of ethics and a breach of trust. I am incensed and can only imagine what Pelosi is saying to Ryan at this very moment.

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
38. Think he's saying "Sure the Trump team was surveilled, but only incidentally and legally"
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:55 PM
Mar 2017

He's hoping to imply that Trump wasn't wrong about Obama's "tapps", but that it was all innocent conversations as a part of preparing for the election and transition.

My feeling is that these incidental contacts pointed the IC toward a Trump-Russia nexus and they've been digging hard to gather all the evidence they could before leaks force them to raid the WH and issue indictments.

Also, might be a much broader net being cast as they followed where the info led.

haele

(12,660 posts)
39. He's shown how arrogantly stupid he is. How provincial and shallow they all are.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:57 PM
Mar 2017

They're all such petty mobsters, thinking they're Michael Corleone when in reality, they're a bunch of Fredos.
A bunch of wealthy narcissist Randriods and fellow travelers with way too much money and cleverness, and much too little wisdom. Starting with Adelson, Devos, and Mercer, and going all the way down to the puppets.

Putin isn't really that smart either. He's a clever gangster, but his world still has to be severely constricted for him to be able to operate and have influence. He doesn't operate very well on the World stage, he can't work with anyone; he has to try and ensure everyone else is weak before he can act.

Haele

FakeNoose

(32,645 posts)
46. Love that reference!
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:14 PM
Mar 2017
They're all such petty mobsters, thinking they're Michael Corleone when in reality, they're a bunch of Fredos.


So true and yet I hadn't realized it until I read your post.



Gothmog

(145,321 posts)
42. This is incidential collection
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:05 PM
Mar 2017

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LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
43. This is a smoke incendiary device -- he's got Donald's back and aside from his personal panic,
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:09 PM
Mar 2017

he thinks he will be rewarded on the other side of this.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
56. A toast to them all being in the same prison.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:50 PM
Mar 2017

They can listen to Donald talk endlessly about how great he is and it was all a setup.

McCamy Taylor

(19,240 posts)
58. He leaked classified info to the target of an investigation before he shared it will his committee.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:28 PM
Mar 2017

Making him unfit to head this or any other committee. Censure at the very least. May have opened himself up to criminal investigation or charges. Add Nunes to the list of Republicans that Trump is taking down with him.

How long before Fox starts to speculate that Bill and Hillary Clinton deliberately persuaded Trump to run knowing that he would destroy the Republican Party?

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