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anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:09 PM Mar 2017

Nunes: surveillance was "political" and "inappropriate." At White House. SHAMING FBI.

Folks, the chair of the intel committee, without informing his colleagues, is standing in front of the White House shaming the FBI (!!!!!) saying the FBI is "not cooperating" and that the intel he claims he was privy to was "political." He is clearly trying to cover Trump's ass. What a shame. They are DESPERATELY TRYING TO DISCREDIT COMEY AND DESTROY THE FBI INVESTIGATION. Nunes is claiming these "reports" support Trump's claims.

Just ran away after saying a VERY SNIPPY and SNARKY COMMENT about Comey: "he needs to come talk to US."

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Nunes: surveillance was "political" and "inappropriate." At White House. SHAMING FBI. (Original Post) anneboleyn Mar 2017 OP
wow. JHan Mar 2017 #1
He is compromised and controlled by WH benld74 Mar 2017 #2
Somebody needs to pull his security clearances and kick him off that committee MelissaB Mar 2017 #3
What whining losers. I bet Dolt45 thinks he can get away with firing Comey now. randome Mar 2017 #4
Oh, of course, wouldn't surprise us in the least..get rid of Comey... asiliveandbreathe Mar 2017 #11
big Nixon like mistake MFM008 Mar 2017 #26
Have to wonder if Nunes is a suspect Renew Deal Mar 2017 #5
Nunes maryallen Mar 2017 #33
Nunes is inadvertently making a strong case for a special prosecutor. nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #59
McCain just said," We need a Select Committee." True Blue American Mar 2017 #67
I'm sure he is. ananda Mar 2017 #41
I'm pretty damned sure he's a suspect 2naSalit Mar 2017 #44
A Democrat should have asked Comey Renew Deal Mar 2017 #47
LOL! 2naSalit Mar 2017 #80
I get the feeling that Nunes is on the list Renew Deal Mar 2017 #82
Oh, not only him... 2naSalit Mar 2017 #84
I wonder about a setup too Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #79
and he 2naSalit Mar 2017 #81
lol... Blue_Roses Mar 2017 #85
That's for sure....nt 2naSalit Mar 2017 #86
This sounds awfully desperate Idoru Mar 2017 #6
Agree Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #16
He probably 2naSalit Mar 2017 #45
Looks like the wheels have fallen off! GliderGuider Mar 2017 #7
The confirmation hearing for gorsuck needs to be suspended NOW! asiliveandbreathe Mar 2017 #8
BLOTUS has a BIG win MFM008 Mar 2017 #29
The confirmation hearing gorsuck is all theater..he will be confirmed... asiliveandbreathe Mar 2017 #35
I say we shut the whole damn government down at this. Initech Mar 2017 #37
Absolutely - I want the conversation between Nunes and the dump made asiliveandbreathe Mar 2017 #38
X1000 MFM008 Mar 2017 #52
He needs to go now. erinlough Mar 2017 #9
The country can't take this much longer Sculpin Beauregard Mar 2017 #10
I wish he'd go down with 45. Ilsa Mar 2017 #12
Bullshit, when the FBI suspects a crime gopiscrap Mar 2017 #13
right - but what I am gathering their beef is - is with the unmasking of people. Wish I had paid Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2017 #17
They unmask when it is necessary to understand what is going on in the conversation pnwmom Mar 2017 #51
Well, that sounds so benign. WH screaming about unmasking because it allows leaks. Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2017 #65
And I just read somewhere else that most of the names were masked. Nunes said that pnwmom Mar 2017 #70
Not really a surprise. old guy Mar 2017 #14
Trump may be looking for excuse to fire Comey Juliusseizure Mar 2017 #15
nunes complaining about unmasking and leaking Laura PourMeADrink Mar 2017 #18
Then leaks himself. NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #46
+1, but I don't think legality has anything to do with whether Benedict Donald is able to fire Comey uponit7771 Mar 2017 #19
I think it is an attempt to get political cover not a legal reason. Of course it looks totally anneboleyn Mar 2017 #22
+1 uponit7771 Mar 2017 #24
I think you may be right. anneboleyn Mar 2017 #20
Bingo. nt Kahuna7 Mar 2017 #28
That's EXACTLY what I just said leftynyc Mar 2017 #36
So Nixonian of him - been there, done that - asiliveandbreathe Mar 2017 #40
Exactly what I said in a thread yesterday. murielm99 Mar 2017 #49
So let me guess ? He's ok with leaks now Thrill Mar 2017 #21
So is Trump from what we hear (couldn't help myself sorry). This news is driving me crazy. anneboleyn Mar 2017 #23
i'd love to be in the room when he faces his fellow committee members spanone Mar 2017 #25
Wait a second, does the FBI conduct surveillance on foreign agents? Thought that was the NSA. randome Mar 2017 #27
FBI is on US soil counter-espionage AngryAmish Mar 2017 #39
But Nunes said it was legally done. And it is legal to unmask in certain circumstances, pnwmom Mar 2017 #53
anyone else feel MFM008 Mar 2017 #30
I felt it coming on Nov 8 Skittles Mar 2017 #73
Lol MFM008 Mar 2017 #78
A desperate ploy for the Trump supporters hamsterjill Mar 2017 #31
So he says the info is from a legal FISA warrent Phoenix61 Mar 2017 #32
I keep saying, Comeys either guilty up to his eyeballs Volaris Mar 2017 #61
This is a set up for firing Comey for cause NotThisTime Mar 2017 #34
He "doth protest too much, methinks." Jarqui Mar 2017 #42
Thanks for getting the quote right wryter2000 Mar 2017 #57
It's been about 47 years since I studied that play Jarqui Mar 2017 #60
We have deviated wryter2000 Mar 2017 #71
Back in December abchar17 Mar 2017 #43
I'm not sure if Comey is feeling guilty now about releasing the "new" Hillary emails LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #48
This does remind me of Watergate. yardwork Mar 2017 #50
Me2 MFM008 Mar 2017 #54
Me too. yardwork Mar 2017 #56
The confusion.......... LeftInTX Mar 2017 #69
I watched Watergate wryter2000 Mar 2017 #72
If Comey is discredited Dyedinthewoolliberal Mar 2017 #55
Keep talking, Nunes. Cover yourself in shame and, one hopes, with criminal complicity. nt tblue37 Mar 2017 #58
My guess Russia provided NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #62
For a bunch of incompetent clowns, it was a pretty good plan. DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #63
This is bad news for our Democracy if Trump, Nunes and others can get away with this. jalan48 Mar 2017 #64
I don't think that they want to be jabbing at the FBI. Caliman73 Mar 2017 #66
Is Comey involved? Was this a setup? Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #68
how can you be the chair of an investigation when you don't accept the principle Warren DeMontague Mar 2017 #74
Easy answer. herding cats Mar 2017 #76
It's also possible Nunes is running scared. herding cats Mar 2017 #75
I wonder if Comey has any regrets about stabbing Hillary in the back last year? nt Hekate Mar 2017 #77
Death Cult member defends his master. VOX Mar 2017 #83
Carazzzzzzzy! kerry-is-my-prez Mar 2017 #87

MelissaB

(16,420 posts)
3. Somebody needs to pull his security clearances and kick him off that committee
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:11 PM
Mar 2017

and then arrest this fucker.

K&R

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
4. What whining losers. I bet Dolt45 thinks he can get away with firing Comey now.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:11 PM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
11. Oh, of course, wouldn't surprise us in the least..get rid of Comey...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:14 PM
Mar 2017

considering he doesn't have little peep to protect him (sessions)

maryallen

(2,172 posts)
33. Nunes
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:45 PM
Mar 2017

Possibly, his name is one that has been unredacted and now is unveiled and recognizable as it
appears in intelligence reports. Nunes needs to be removed as chairman of the committee. The committee cannot be considered fair and unbiased when he receives this information -- probably from Trump -- and then hauls butt to the WH, which he is supposed to be investigating.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
44. I'm pretty damned sure he's a suspect
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:39 PM
Mar 2017

which is why he's not getting the intel he's looking to bury before it gets out of the capsule. I think that the way Comey was looking at him was like; I see you, f'er, and I'll have your ass in legirons in a heartbeat.

And I suspect that what he just spent the last 90 minutes doing will be his undoing and may well have been set up to blow it by Comey et al.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
47. A Democrat should have asked Comey
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:45 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Is there a target of the investigation in this room? Blink twice for yes.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
80. LOL!
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:15 AM
Mar 2017

That would have given too many a heads up that they were next. I'd rather watch them scramble around a little and squirm with cold sweat for a couple days. They are bound to totally blow it in public... the level of sophistication is so low.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
82. I get the feeling that Nunes is on the list
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:22 AM
Mar 2017

Doing something nefarious. Best explanation for his craziness yesterday

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
84. Oh, not only him...
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:28 AM
Mar 2017

but all the Rs on the intel committees in both houses of Congress are com;icit as is the Speaker, the Majority leader and several others in the Senate. It is colossal in scope and breadth... this will be the corruption primer for centuries.

...believe me.

There's lots of squirming going on right now, and several upset stomachs. You can tell by all the rats leaping from the sinking ship, they can see the torpedo trails in the water and they are headed for the rogue ship GOP.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
81. and he
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 11:19 AM
Mar 2017

SWALLOWED IT! Which would be amusing to get the skinny on but it could also be a WH set up to let him get the notice, cast aspersions in Nunes' direction as a "squirrel" while everyone is rightfully focused on Manafort now, and that's gonna make some heads explode.

Or it could be that he just blew it because there are so few functioning brain cells among the whole crew.

2naSalit

(86,650 posts)
45. He probably
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:41 PM
Mar 2017

found out that he's in trouble and that is why he's not getting the same intel briefings he knows about but can't attend. He's dirty and is now scared, so scared that he just blew it bigly. Another one out the door and I hope the rest will follow presently.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
8. The confirmation hearing for gorsuck needs to be suspended NOW!
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:12 PM
Mar 2017

All hands on deck to weed out and dismiss Nunes from committee inv..we need a special prosecutor - Independent Investigation..this is getting out of hand - WTF......

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
29. BLOTUS has a BIG win
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:40 PM
Mar 2017

if he is allowed to be seated.

Also momentum in Obama care repeal gets through house.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
35. The confirmation hearing gorsuck is all theater..he will be confirmed...
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:48 PM
Mar 2017

I refuse to accept any big win for the so-called potus....the repeal ACA, dunno...we'll see....

Something is happening regarding the investigation - perhaps the lid is shaking on the boiling pot..hope so!!

Initech

(100,081 posts)
37. I say we shut the whole damn government down at this.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:52 PM
Mar 2017

Top to bottom, every single branch and every single department has been compromised by these treasonous fucking assholes. Shut it down until we can figure out what the fuck is going on here and root out those that allowed treason to happen, and throw them all in maximum security prison. We need to know what happened and we need to know now. I'm looking at you, Mitch!

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
38. Absolutely - I want the conversation between Nunes and the dump made
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:55 PM
Mar 2017

public...if not - sue their arse - to supremes for info, just like Nixon and Watergate...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/watergate/timeline.html

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
13. Bullshit, when the FBI suspects a crime
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:16 PM
Mar 2017

it is their responsibility to ferret it out by any legal means possible.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
17. right - but what I am gathering their beef is - is with the unmasking of people. Wish I had paid
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:26 PM
Mar 2017

closer attention to Comey talking about unmasking. Why do they unmask?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
51. They unmask when it is necessary to understand what is going on in the conversation
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:52 PM
Mar 2017

or when they think they are seeing evidence of a crime.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
70. And I just read somewhere else that most of the names were masked. Nunes said that
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 07:29 PM
Mar 2017

he could, however, guess the names in context.

I think he's trying to blow a bunch of smoke.

old guy

(3,283 posts)
14. Not really a surprise.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:20 PM
Mar 2017

I didn't know exactly what their plan was but I did suspect they had one to try to make this all go away. It may be a mistake doing it this way as it makes it more necessary for a special prosecutor but we shall see. Plus it's not real smart to piss off the intelligence community.

Juliusseizure

(562 posts)
15. Trump may be looking for excuse to fire Comey
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:22 PM
Mar 2017

Problem is nothing FBI did was illegal or politically motivated, and Comey is a Republican. He even went against FBI protocal to help get Drumpf elected.

This reeks of Trump's typical "attack the messenger" MO and is a desperate move. Fire Comey and we have a watergate type firing of special prosecutor Archibald Cox used as a basis for impeachment.

Nunes is protecting himself by saying surveillance was legal. Otherwise, it would be perjury.

 

NewRedDawn

(790 posts)
46. Then leaks himself.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:43 PM
Mar 2017

Fucking greasy fascist hypocrite. Go back to the Azores where you came from scumbag and leave Nato post in Great Britain alone.
This fucker is trying to weaken National Security by pouring money in his homeland by moving us there farther away from their paymaster Pooty.

anneboleyn

(5,611 posts)
22. I think it is an attempt to get political cover not a legal reason. Of course it looks totally
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:30 PM
Mar 2017

contrived.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
36. That's EXACTLY what I just said
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:51 PM
Mar 2017

to my sister (who is watching MSNBC and keeping me updated while at work). They want comey gone and know it would look horrendous to fire him.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
40. So Nixonian of him - been there, done that -
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:57 PM
Mar 2017

October 20/'73 - Saturday Night Massacre: Nixon fires Archibald Cox and abolishes the office of the special prosecutor. Attorney General Richardson and Deputy Attorney General William D. Ruckelshaus resign. Pressure for impeachment mounts in Congress.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/watergate/timeline.html

murielm99

(30,745 posts)
49. Exactly what I said in a thread yesterday.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:49 PM
Mar 2017

Firing Comey would be too much like the Saturday Night Massacre. Trump has no sense of history, and probably thinks the Saturday Night Massacre was an Indian uprising or a sports event.

Who knows what trump will do now? I don't think he knows himself.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
27. Wait a second, does the FBI conduct surveillance on foreign agents? Thought that was the NSA.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:40 PM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Never stop having childhood dreams.[/center][/font][hr]

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
39. FBI is on US soil counter-espionage
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:57 PM
Mar 2017

CIA overseas. NSA is an easedropping outfit that supplies both. FISA warrant needed for FBI counterespionage with US citizens. No warrants needed for inadvertently getting US citizens while monitoring foreigners (business and state-level espionage.). Supposed to strip out US identity while non-warranted intercepts.

Nunes says no stripping and sharing. If so this is felonious. But coming from Nunes the salt must be taken.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
53. But Nunes said it was legally done. And it is legal to unmask in certain circumstances,
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:54 PM
Mar 2017

such as when it is necessary to understand the conversation, or when a crime is being committed.

So Nunes is not really helping his team here.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
31. A desperate ploy for the Trump supporters
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:42 PM
Mar 2017

Let Nunes go for it. This is going to piss Comey off, which will, hopefully motivate Comey to be more interested in any investigation that he undertakes.

Phoenix61

(17,006 posts)
32. So he says the info is from a legal FISA warrent
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 03:44 PM
Mar 2017

Then he says it was political. How is that even possible? This may be why Comey released the info on Hillary. So when this happened no one could say he was partisan.

Volaris

(10,272 posts)
61. I keep saying, Comeys either guilty up to his eyeballs
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:34 PM
Mar 2017

Or he's Barrack Obamas version of Severus Snape.

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
42. He "doth protest too much, methinks."
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:33 PM
Mar 2017

(This scandal is starting to take some form of a grand Shakespearean tragedy)

Jarqui

(10,126 posts)
60. It's been about 47 years since I studied that play
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:32 PM
Mar 2017

I had to look it up to make sure I was getting it right.

As I vaguely recall, I think we've kind of deviated from the original proper meaning so your applause may well be more than I deserve. But Trump's such an ignoramus, he couldn't tell even if Nunes dropped by to try and explain it! So I figure that kind of evens it out

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
71. We have deviated
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:55 AM
Mar 2017

But it's still nice to hear it right from time to time.

I still love to quote "Let them eat cake," even though Marie Antionette never said that.

abchar17

(4 posts)
43. Back in December
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:33 PM
Mar 2017

When Obama ordered a complete investigation into the Russia hacks back in December, I would assume they'd likely end up investigating Trump team, since they were involved so heavily with Russia and possibly colluding. This is probably what Nunes is uncovering? And maybe what Trump was referring to? Totally legal on Obama's part.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,174 posts)
48. I'm not sure if Comey is feeling guilty now about releasing the "new" Hillary emails
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:45 PM
Mar 2017

And is trying to make up for it when he realized that he may be one of the most responsible for Trumps ascension.

or if this is a game of setting up an "investigation" to make it look thorough and official but pre-determining it already to serve his GOP masters.

LeftInTX

(25,383 posts)
69. The confusion..........
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:36 PM
Mar 2017

I remember getting confused to the point that I lost interest in Watergate. It seemed like everyone was pointing the finger at everyone else. I was 16-17.

Still this Nunes thing is confusing and weird and baffling and makes me scratch my head.

wryter2000

(46,051 posts)
72. I watched Watergate
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 01:57 AM
Mar 2017

This is Watergate on steroids.

OTOH, back then, the Republican party had some integrity.

Dyedinthewoolliberal

(15,579 posts)
55. If Comey is discredited
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 04:56 PM
Mar 2017

then we ought realize his stunt with Hillary was political too. But wait, why would he do that to her and then this to him? Maybe Comey doesn't like either one? It's so bizarre.............

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
63. For a bunch of incompetent clowns, it was a pretty good plan.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 05:37 PM
Mar 2017

1. Trump gets wind of the fact that a lot of the Russians he and his boys were chatting up we being tapped by the NSA, et al; 2. Trump makes the outrageous and false claim that Obama "tapped his wires"; 3. Now Nunes can come out and acknowledge the recordings, but instead of focusing on what was said, it is "vindication" of Trump's lie and, naturally, 4. when the recordings do surface, Trump supporters everywhere will talk only about sending President Obama to prison, worse than Nixon, blah blah blah and not about the fact that Trump is in bed with Putin and the Russian mob.
I don't think it's going to work, mind you, but still, it's still better than Plan B: Packing up the White House and heading to Moscow, Edward Snowden style. Credit where credit is due to Trump and his band of criminals.

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
66. I don't think that they want to be jabbing at the FBI.
Wed Mar 22, 2017, 06:11 PM
Mar 2017

No that I am a huge fan of our intelligence apparatus. They have a rather shady history. However, I think it very unwise of Nunes and the Republicans to try to intimidate the agency that probably knows where Jimmy Hoffa is buried.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
74. how can you be the chair of an investigation when you don't accept the principle
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:37 AM
Mar 2017

of investigating that which the thing is focused on the first place?

herding cats

(19,565 posts)
75. It's also possible Nunes is running scared.
Thu Mar 23, 2017, 02:39 AM
Mar 2017

He's wrapped up in Trump's cabinet picks as a part of his transition team. If he saw people he could be liked to looking guilty as fuck he may have lost it and overreact.

What I'm saying is I don't think he's clean enough in all this to not be looking out for himself here.

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