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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHA HA HA: Trump's "Come to Jesus" meeting lost 10 votes!
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/first-read/trump-s-hard-sell-health-care-hasn-t-worked-least-n736891The art of the deal, indeed.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)dchill
(38,505 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,432 posts)With Trumpy at 37%, he's dishwater. His political capital is gone.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)it's pretty accurate!
txwhitedove
(3,929 posts)lark
(23,118 posts)Yes, he's dirty, but more than that, he's just plain toxic to our country, the world, working class people, women and brown people.
montana_hazeleyes
(3,424 posts)onetexan
(13,043 posts)especially given the Russian collusion probe
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Russian collusion didn't bother his voters all that much before, though, and a large number seem to be righteously angry about the evil Democratic plot to destroy him with lies.
I'm guessing most of it's new worry over social programs, scary rumors starting to seep into their bubbles. Where's the "caring"? Especially, a large number of them really thought/hoped he was going to get rid of the ACA's mandate to pay, make premiums cheaper, and make coverages even "better." And, of course, change its name.
Then there's that Russian analyst's belief that making supporters of an authoritarian leader believe they've backed a "loser" is the gut hit resistance should be going for. Of course, he's doing that to himself, so maybe that's what's really getting through.
patricia92243
(12,597 posts)SticksnStones
(2,108 posts)And whaddaya know? He's right...so much winning ~
Initech
(100,081 posts)I think from now on we should never trust anybody who is so hell bent on "winning"!
leftyladyfrommo
(18,869 posts)He is failing at everything. He just looks like a fool - a mean, stupid old fool.
Pretty soon no one will want anything to do with him.
Jonny Appleseed
(960 posts)Moostache
(9,895 posts)The best steaks...
The best fake schools...
The best bankrupt casinos...
If Donald Trump actually EVER made something the "best" it would simply mean we have changed the meaning of the word "best" to be a synonym of "worst" instead of an antonym. (Not that the orange shit-gibbon knows what that actually means...)
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)cilla4progress
(24,737 posts)we here all saw this coming. The naked emperor.
So infuriating to wait on others to catch on. Dumbasses..
BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)Except, sadly, some diehard Trumpistas have said they would not give up their support even if every part of his agenda failed, it was proven that he did nothing but lie since beginning his campaign, and even if it was proved that he has been a Russian agent all along.
One of my "favorite" quotes coming from his latest Love Me! moment was "As long as it [Trumpcare] has 'Trump' in the name, you'll forget how bad it is."
How can you overcome such idiocy?
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)"Treasonous"
"Russian"
"Indebted"
crazycatlady
(4,492 posts)Volaris
(10,272 posts)liquid diamond
(1,917 posts)IronLionZion
(45,460 posts)A leader without followers is just a guy taking a walk. And this is a guy who is too scared to walk down stairs without holding someone's hand.
I love how nobody respects him, not even his own party.
global1
(25,253 posts)he's going to blame it on Congress and it's not going to be his fault. What happened to the buck stops here? I think Trump understands that to mean how much he and his family can fleece us American People out of our money and line their pockets. The buck stops in Trumps and his family's back pocket.
tanyev
(42,572 posts)calimary
(81,323 posts)EVERYTHING about this asshole stinks. That's because he's an asshole of the first order.
mountain grammy
(26,626 posts)they'll vote for it, and then they'll go farther.
Bengus81
(6,931 posts)And then pretend to be working like he did last week.
LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)Who can blame them when the "Trump Jesus" is full of lies and crap. Anyone with any insight, even GOPer House Officials in the "Trump Jesus Meeting" could see that.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)He tried a power move that might have worked a month ago, but flopped now.
That's the risk Trump has run throughout a career based entirely on bluffing...but as president he's receiving constant scrutiny that is only going to undermine his preferred image. His capital has always had an expiration date which seems to be nearing.
Cosmocat
(14,566 posts)1) This is literally the worst public policy legislation that has hit capitol hill in our lives.
2) That isn't the issue, the republican party is that hateful and deranged they could give a fuck what it looks like now.
3) The problem they are having with this bill is that it is not horrible enough!
4) There are some, mostly in the senate, who are opposing it, not for the best interests of their constituents. BUT, because it is so horrible and they don't have safe, gerrymandered districts to protect them and the know they will be punished if they vote for it.
5) The majority who are opposing it know this and don't really care. They are THAT fucking sick that they want it to be worse. SO, they.
6) Their opposition is a win/win. They appease the deranged, hateful people in their party who want it to be bad, and get to say that is why they didn't vote for it. BUT, also, in not voting for it will not face the pushback from those who know how bad it is and and oppose it.
These assholes see that. So, there is nothing 45, Reagen or anyone could do. They get to not vote for it, be cast as true patriots by their 1/3 zombies and don't face the blowback from the people who would get hurt by it.
I just say this so that people understand that while, hopefully, this is crashing and burning, they WILL, very quickly, pull together their tithe to their masters (the tax bill) and pass it very easily.
SharonAnn
(13,776 posts)gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)owning your own company
calimary
(81,323 posts)That's exactly it. If he wants to be "king," he should have stayed in the private sector.
gopiscrap
(23,761 posts)I would never recommend a former military officer (col and gen) or a business owner to be a pastor. There are a whole different set of skills and variables in the both the church and politics. One must be able to take no for an answer, one must be able to work with people instead of just barking orders and expecting folks to jump
ProfessorGAC
(65,078 posts).. . if voting for it means doom in the GE. So the threat was empty and largely ignored.
IrishEyes
(3,275 posts)Obviously, they need more of Trump talking to them. The house republicans know that aligning themselves with Trump betters their chance of being unemployed when the 2018 elections happen. I hope with all of my heart that the Democrats will take the house in 2018.
ffr
(22,670 posts)still_one
(92,233 posts)Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)So satisfying I'd need a cigarette after reading it (and I don't even smoke).
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Unlike Ryan, she can count to 218.
Grizzled Ol Granddad
(73 posts)And Bannon must be on Medusa's level!
karynnj
(59,504 posts)explicit that they are against it. Consider that two of them are men that Trump attacked as opponents (Paul and Cruz) and that the bill is genuinely not what they would have done. I don't think any of the possible Republican nos could be hurt by Trump. In addition, I would not be surprised if in the back of their heads, they are already thinking "Primary Him" - as they see him failing.
DownriverDem
(6,229 posts)Trump told them he would come after them. That's right out of the Hitler playbook. If I were a repub rep leaning no I would have said: FU!!!
zehnkatzen
(784 posts)ancianita
(36,099 posts)brewens
(13,598 posts)history as a great president, he could have been.
I really didn't think he would go balls out on the looting. I thought he wouldn't give a shit about the rest of the 1%, and might even sell them out. He could even have sold out the racists and gotten away with it. He's just have to be full bore all about jobs and infrastructure.
If he hadn't been shooting himself in the foot every day, imagine the YUGE infrastructure plan we might all be talking about? He could be looking at votes for a plan that Obama would never have dared ask for.
duhneece
(4,113 posts)they want to withhold $$ for R's that vote 'yes' because they want it more restrictive, more likely to kill many of us. Not the time to celebrate a little bit...or a lot. And I'm usually the one to say, "Let's celebrate even small wins..."