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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPeter Daou: I have diligently avoided saying the 2016 election was stolen
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infidelsavant
(31 posts)When it probably doesn't matter.
spooky3
(34,483 posts)confirmed that Trump was under investigation?
Or did you mean it was convenient for Comey?
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Cha
(297,717 posts)Investigation has come to this.
Peter Daou is an intelligent man who wants proof before making such accusations.. not like the idiot in the WH.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)Cha
(297,717 posts)Peter Daou and the poster hasn't corrected yet.
If it's comey.. he is most correct.
calimary
(81,507 posts)Some people find it harder to stick their necks out. I happen to agree with the opinion. I too think this election was stolen. Glad somebody's finally coming around to say that. But maybe he felt a case had not been made til a day like this came along. When you're on it early, you're the first to take the verbal jabs and blows. You're the first to be lambasted as shrill or hilarious. You're the first to be targeted for smears and slanders.
Then again, there are some like Chris Matthews who is loathe - utterly LOATHE to use the word "lie" or the word "liar." Hates it. Said so on his show in the first segment just a few days ago. Didn't want to stick his neck out, even though lies are spewing from trump's mouth almost at the rate of every minute on the minute. Even though it's STUPID-obvious. Even though there's such a long and unimpeachable track record, well-documented in multitudes of written words and video clips. Can't do it, he says. Just shrivels at the thought, still.
I know. It makes no sense. None to me anyway. What would you call it, if you can't call it a lie? Especially spoken by the Lord of the Lies.
niyad
(113,581 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,664 posts)Dawson Leery
(19,348 posts)could claim a legitimate mandate to govern.
Bush the Lesser had no mandate, Trump has no mandate.
The USSC/Russia handed the election to the wrong side.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)This just gives confirmation. The press has already put it together. It is unreal that Comey exposed Hill and cost her the election, but hypocritically kept this under wraps. He cost us our country, our status in the world, and the damage will be there for generations.
Comey for jail!
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)1 followed by this many zeroes:
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)happened to Kerry
don't understand why the word doesn't get out about that, and the dems are afraid to pursue it now
can you IMAGINE what would be happening right now if Hillary had rightly been sitting at 1600 as we speak?
pugs would be in afterburner mode trying to reverse the election results....JUST as Rove thought when he thought he'd had it stolen with Obama. remember his blow out on Fox?
even megyn kelly couldn't take that BS and called him on it
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)and, dammit, they got away with it again!! (1st time with Gore, of course)
I never-in-a-million-years could have imagined something as vile and shocking as this actually happening.
It's the stuff of nightmares. Or The Twilight Zone.
Hayabusa
(2,135 posts)We all "knew" that Dubya stole two elections, but at least he kept it all in house. Trump an the Repugs sold their soul to a foreign power to get it done this time. It makes Dubya look halfway legit in hindsight...
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)But not on a GLOBAL scale, which makes a huge difference
bigbrother05
(5,995 posts)Kerry was screwed in Ohio in a less obvious way, a few machines here - some purged rolls there.
Starting to look like Trump outsourced the dirty work to Putin and they added 3 states to the other 2 they had on speed dial. Have to believe the Russian hackers could reach into the voting systems without any fingerprints and calculate just how many they needed to win. As Stalin always said "It's not who votes that counts, but who counts the votes."
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)We need to be nice and caring with each other, but fight like hell against them. We have to fight them harder than they fight us, because they cheat.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)from twelve ffffing years ago......
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x1290765
ailsagirl
(22,899 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)erronis
(15,355 posts)I like what you've done/copied and would like to understand the statistics behind.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)They are on dKos if you want to use them, search by uploader "jqjacobs"
erronis
(15,355 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Duppers
(28,127 posts)Well said, Alice.
ffr
(22,672 posts)Sorry, but no hoodwinked or red voters, even if they're democrats.
Comey killed our democracy with his violation of the Hatch Act, as did republicans who LEAKED his letter to the press on October 28th.
Harry Reid: FBI Chief Comey Covered Up Russian Hacking, Should Resign - Dec 10th, 2016
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)There is governmental immunity to work around, Federal Tort Claims Act. The question will be was this a discretionary act. If so, we are probably SOL.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)come up with a valid explanation/defense for having a server system that was good enough for an ex-president in a house that was physically protected by the Secret Service that had never been hacked. If we don't get out of yesterday's mindset and leap into the now - where you have to be media savvy and do everything to grasp a second of interest in the intense, overbombarded media world of today - we are doomed. Taking away meals on wheels? School lunches? And no ad drumming that in? DNC, anyone with money? inexcusable.
murielm99
(30,765 posts)throughout all the hearings into Hillary's server and emails. It just wasn't good enough for the media, and for a lot of anti HRC people on this very website.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)to not justify/explain and to just say, it was a mistake. Not trying to relitigate here - just an observation. The difference between what happened with the server and what is happening today - light years apart. And, although Trump has gone light years beyond believability, there is something to be said about being confident and outraged and fighting back.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)We should have spots all over tv educating the public about trumpcare, MOW. Everthing that is happening.
Instead, we have this repub farmer looking guy delivering our response to the State of the Union.
We are the smartest when we get in, but damn it's hard, and we let them get away w cheating.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)side who have access to the most creative minds. Your last line is so true - we are best when we get in !
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)So, now they are tearing down Obama care, when over the last several years, they have preached that, without having a replacement! Now, they have thrown together this last minute POS. It's complicated, DT genius says. Tearing down MOW. Tearing down NPR.
More and more.
FiveGoodMen
(20,018 posts)They are not trying to make life better for the average American.
They are trying to take all the money and all the power and leave the rest of us starving and begging for scraps.
They are not failing at all. They are successfully pursuing their altogether evil goals.
It's their opponents -- if, indeed, they really have any opponents -- who don't have a clue.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)Hastily thrown together POS, even after their having years to come up w something.
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calimary
(81,507 posts)I read a lot of his stuff during the campaign. We may most cordially have to agree to disagree.
R B Garr
(16,985 posts)One of the main reasons Trump stole Bernie's attacks on Hillary was because they were unchallenged and worked to the Republicans favor. Sorry, but there is nothing to respect about a man attacking a woman like that knowing your target can't answer you back in kind or risk alienating his supporters. Everybody went easy on Bernie.*
*Hi, this is about the current investigations about Russia's motives and methods to meddle in our election per the current investigations.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Last edited Tue Mar 21, 2017, 08:10 AM - Edit history (1)
Your response to an issue that indicates the Presidency was stolen is to argue with a pundit that you think he gave unfair coverage to your chosen primary candidate over a year ago?
AllaN01Bear
(18,443 posts)Kimchijeon
(1,606 posts)It's getting to be harder to stay in denial! Which is a good thing.
BadGimp
(4,019 posts)triron
(22,023 posts)What in the world was he thinking???
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Comey wasn't.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)cilla4progress
(24,776 posts)Not only was the election stolen but our country was stolen from us
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)cilla4progress
(24,776 posts)Agreed
Pretty pissed that all of us look like dumbasses because of this clown.
Alice11111
(5,730 posts)bullwinkle428
(20,631 posts)will just install Rudy or someone else equally deplorable. So we're stuck.
angrychair
(8,733 posts)Once they started down that trail regarding Clinton to then come out with something about republican45 would have been met with everything from suspicion to complete condemnation and it could have dramatically impacted the integrity of an investigation into actual criminal actions as opposed to the bullshit witch hunt against Clinton.
Plus, to be honest, the impact to republicans from this will be dramatic and far reaching. Far more impactful than if it had come to light before the election.
By revealing the investigation on republican45 before Election Day, it may have got Clinton elected but it would have done little to no damage to the Republican Party.
Republican45 getting elected has caused a lot of republicans to hitch their wagons to him and if republican45 and other senior administration officials get impeached and/or arrested, that will do long term, "death kneel" level damage to the Party brand and its most controversial and troubling party members will left out in the cold, likely forever, because of it.
oldcynic
(385 posts)How far back do you want to go? Washington? Lincoln? Genghis Khan? How about Nixon...he was a well-known crook and got elected anyway. Since then, it's been solid wingnut control of the country...with the exception of a few Demos kneecapped by vicious Republican attacks. All political systems have their drawbacks. Democracy's problem is that it requires constant attention, examination, and participation by all the people, all the time. Humans are not capable of that. We operate as we always have done...might makes right. We still want to be ruled by that silver back...whatever title you give him. The question is and always was: how do we overcome genetic programming?
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)We need a cultural revolution, an awakening of consciousness, a moment of enlightenment from which we cannot turn back.
ffr
(22,672 posts)America, catch on. It's a simple as this. We're better than what this GOP scandal affair.