Adam Schiff on Trump campaign & Russia: circumstantial evidence of collusion direct evidence of d

[MelissaB]

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Adam Schiff on Trump campaign & Russia: “circumstantial evidence of collusion … direct evidence of deception” at start of investigation

Link to tweet

Update with article:

Rep. Schiff Defends Committee Examining Russia-Trump Connections

by Kailani Koenig

WASHINGTON — Despite denials from some top intelligence officials that there was any evidence of collusion between associates of Donald Trump's presidential campaign and Russian operatives while Moscow tried to interfere with the 2016 election, Rep. Adam Schiff on Sunday defended the House Intelligence Committee continuing to look into the matter.

Two weeks ago on Meet The Press, James Clapper, the Director of National Intelligence under President Obama, denied that any evidence of such collusion existed while he oversaw the work of U.S. intelligence agencies. The Trump administration has also reiterated those denials.

But this Sunday on "Meet The Press," Schiff, D-Calif., told host Chuck Todd, "I was surprised to see Director Clapper say that because I don't think you can make that claim categorically as he did. I would characterize it this way at the outset of the investigation: there is circumstantial evidence of collusion. There is direct evidence I think of deception and that's where we begin the investigation."

Schiff is the ranking Democratic member on the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence.

Link: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/schiff-defends-committee-examining-russia-trump-connections-n735391

[KewlKat]

1. wonder what Joy will have to say this AM? Maybe she will have something to add

to this story?

[flamingdem]

2. Adam Schiff is relentless and knows how to raise a ruckus

This is good thinking, if we don't have them on collusion deception should do as impeachable material.

Schiff is also reponsible for reducing the number of helicopters in the air in LA. That was the original reason I luv him, the peace and quiet he protected for us here.

[Soxfan58]

3. Been seeing a lot of this guy

What are his political aspirations?

[Wounded Bear]

4. IDK what he wants going forward...

but I see a future Speaker of the House. We should make that happen in 2018.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. Good news - So why did I just hear Nunes on Faux say ZERO evidence

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of any collusion between Trump campaign and Russia. That was depressing

[shraby]

6. Faux is Faux for the exact reason we spell it like this.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. It wasn't about the station - It was Nunes, live, saying zero evidence

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[tavernier]

7. Because they lie.

All the time, about everything.

But please continue to tune in anytime you want to catch up on the ZERO news.

[Amaryllis]

16. Many think Nunes is colluding. He has been against Russia investigation.

[triron]

17. I think Rachel said he was part of the Trump campaign.

Correct me if that's not correct.

[Amaryllis]

18. I think so too but he also was one of the two the WH asked to tell the media that there was

nothing to the Russia thing. I think the other one was chair of senate intel.

[triron]

19. Yeah, Burr.

He was also in the campaign.

[Amaryllis]

20. Yes, and they both did follow marching orders and tell the media there was no there there.

and it really surprised me there wasn't more blow back from that. seemed like a pretty major thing to me, and to my dem senator who metioned it in his town hall a few days after it happened.

[triron]

21. Who is that? (if you don't mind)

[Amaryllis]

23. Wyden. He is on Senate Intel, and he thought it was a big deal.

[triron]

28. Wyden is exceptional.

Wished our (NM) dem senators were more outspoken on this. I have called their offices
and written letters but they are taking the 'safer road' for some reason which I don't understand.
Seems wimpy to me but then again not in their shoes.

[Amaryllis]

29. I'm realy fortunate to have two great senators and a great rep as well, and I tell them that, too..

[triron]

22. Yeah Rachel said it might be up to the media since pukes all in collusion to cover up.

[MelissaB]

25. Yes, I think so as well. See this current thread for the latest:

OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE televised: Devin Nunes revealing to a suspect he is under investigation!
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028816655

[Loki Liesmith]

27. Two reasons

1) He's discounting circumstantial evidence
2) he is not receiving same info as Schiff

[randome]

8. Circumstantial evidence combined with lack of transparency should be enough to toss him out.

When someone is asked why he/she ran to another country after a murder was committed -but there is no proof said runner committed the murder- logic says this person is not to be trusted with the keys to the kingdom.

At the very least, Dolt45's tax returns become ever more important to see.
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[MelissaB]

9. I've updated the thread with an article

that also has a video if you go to the link.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

11. Ok - so that's why Nunes said that - zero evidence. They are playing it very literally - to

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create the narrative and sway public opinion - like they always do.

[Peachhead22]

12. Deception to the wrong people equals Obstruction of Justice

And that's what brought down Nixon.

[zentrum]

13. This won't go anywhere...

....without Clapper framing or seeing it differently.

[triron]

14. Wonder if Rachel will get him on

next week?

[triron]

15. evidence of deception in itself implies evidence of some collusion.

else why deceive?

[Amaryllis]

24. Did you all see this? We will see Schiff asking questions here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028815805

[MelissaB]

26. Thanks!

[triron]

30. kick for visibility

[Juliusseizure]

31. Most criminals convicted on circumstantial evidence

Circumstantial evidence is evidence that creates an inference of guilt but requires additional circumstantial evidence with enough inferences to prove the fact.

Example-Assume OJ's blood all over threat of Nicole and Ron Goldman, prior threat to kill, history of DV, attempt to escape to Mexico all circumstantial evidence sufficient to convict (the DNA may have been tainted though).

Direct evidence would have been a video of the killing or a witness saying they saw it.

Its rare, and unnecessary, to have direct evidence. Often circumstantial is stronger than direct. Witnesses lie for example. DNA doesnt.

[triron]

32. Good to point this out!

[triron]

33. kick for visibility

[R B Garr]

34. Adam Schiff is a gem. I still remember

when he unseated Rogan of the Clinton impeachment debacle. All of those Clinton accusers saw their careers stumble for their efforts.

Any Senator who isn't focused on the Russia scandal is not dealing in reality. Donald Trump conned people with pie-in-the-sky bullshit, and is trying to distract us from his self-enrichment goals as fast as he can.