Chris Mathews made an interesting and relevant point

[kentuck]

In his "last word" comments, he pointed out just how far right the Republican Party has gone and how they are different from the Democratic Party?

He noted that the Democrats were prepared to lose the Supreme Court decision. Not only the mandate portion but a possibility of losing it all. Yet, they were not ready to clinch their teeth and fists and riot over the decision. They were ready to accept the Supreme Court decision as the rule of law.

But the Republicans...

They were ready to declare Roberts a traitor. They were making all kinds of irrational and volatile comments. They were threatening to repeal it as soon as Romney became President. They were not ready to accept the decision as the law. They believed the Supreme Court belonged to them. They felt betrayed.

It was a stark contrast between the two Parties.

[pnwmom]

1. They're a bunch of sore losers, ever since the Nixon days.

And they just get worse and worse.

[Tigress DEM]

2. Well, there may be DEMs rioting in the streets - ok call them protest marches

But you are right, we believe in the Democratic process, even when it seems broken beyond repair.

As a DEM you have to work your ass off with little expectation of real approval or support most days, just doing the work that needs to be done because it has to be done.

But the "soul selling" that goes on in the rethug party creates this atmosphere of entitlement to absolute crazy-town ideas because somehow the more outrageous and willing to break the very laws they are elected to defend, the more they tell themselves how right they were in the first place because they get their way. They grab up power through stealing elections and say, "See, it's a mandate."

BUT the problem is:

People are seeing ALL politicians in this light now.

I have friends and family that don't trust ANY of them. Being a DEM, I'm somewhat inclined to agree up to the point of continuing to nag my elected leaders to do the work that needs to be done because it needs to be done, in spite of the impossible obstacles that must be overcome to do even the simplest of political tasks these days.

But most of these rethugs, I'd be afraid to sit in the same room with them.

There are some ok Republicans, but they aren't the crazy-town type and their numbers are few.


Tig

[OneAngryDemocrat]

13. There are no "OK" Republicans...

Anyone who sees what this criminal enterprise masquerading around as a political party is doing to America and STILL clamis membership is both a contemporary fascist, and an enemy of the Republic.

Period.

[Jamaal510]

15. We're in trouble then

because about half of the country falls under this category.

[annabanana]

26. Naw. . the VAST majority have

not a frikken idea of what's actually going on.

[OneAngryDemocrat]

60. No. Only 1/4. About the same as the Confederacy.

I'm ready. Are you?

[Tigress DEM]

25. Well, Jim Ramstad from Minnesota was ok - not perfect and don't agree with him on lots of stuff.

I went to a town hall meeting in Edina that he hosted and there were all these DEMs ready to give him what for and he stood and took it for a couple of hours. At the time, *ush wasn't having any interactions that weren't scripted, so that was a difference.

I asked him about the stupidity of a $20,000 credit for SUVs and Hummers vs the $2,000 credit for electric or flex fuel vehicles. He said that he'd worked to get that fixed and I told him that was funny because it made it into the final bill but said that a lot of times bills were changing substantially in the middle of the night after people had already voted for them. He looked honestly appalled and like he was pissed that he'd been duped.

He didn't run again and 2009 was his last year. Maybe he got disillusioned.

There also may be Republicans who want their party back, just like we want America back. What America has become these days doesn't set well with most of US but we stay and we fight because we believe in what was and what can be again - a functioning Democracy.

I'm not talking about politicians as much as I am average people who believed in certain things and voted Republican because of their beliefs. Never have agreed with much in the Republican platform, but you are right the party of today is a bunch of criminals promoting dictatorship as compromise, where they get what they want and we get screwed.

Tig

[KatChatter]

47. +1,000,000 they are the enemy and need to be treated as such

the problem is so many Dems want to be nice to them.

The only time I am civil to PubBaggers is at work and most of them know to steer clear of me unless it is work related and even then they send me an email most times.

They are scum and the enemy and yes that includes those you are related to.

[12AngryBorneoWildmen]

56. OH SO TRUE

[CanonRay]

58. +1000

There is no acceptable reason to vote for any of them. Period.

[freshwest]

24. +1,000

[spanone]

3. they thought roberts was in their pocket. he obviously did what a judge should do.

i think a chief justice thinks a lot about their legacy...imagine if you were asked to be the judicial voice of the teabaggers....

who didn't exist when mr roberts was annointed....

[kentuck]

5. Didn't they feel the same way about Earl Warren?

Who was nominated by a Republican, also?

[rhett o rick]

10. Dont turn your back on Roberts. He is just waiting for Roe v Wade. nm

[snappyturtle]

46. Absolutely! AND, remember that hospitals, pharmaceuticals and

insurance companies who will all benefit from the mandate are
the other 'people' (corporations) in Roberts life. Corporations will not suffer
under Roberts.

[Dirty Socialist]

4. They're Conditioned to Be That Way

Their right wing media overlords have conditioned them to foam at the mouth if anything goes against their narrower than narrow world view.

[DCBob]

6. Which is one of the reasons Im proud to be a Democrat.

Republicans have become deranged and the farthest thing from being patriots.

[a kennedy]

7. Really enjoyed Chris Matthews today....

always love Ron Raygun.....

[slor]

8. I am at the point where I shall no longer type "tweety"...

when I refer to him. And that is a difficult feat after his bush jr bromance.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

9. Hell, Republicans THREATEN to thow a fit.

Dems are expected to avoid Republican anger at all times and are expected to apologize even when Republican outrage is based on a twisting of a comment by a minor staffer.

Meanwhile, Republicans can be as insulting as they want.

It's like being in an abusive relationship where you have to walk on eggshells constantly.

To top it off, Republicans are constantly acting like they have an army of gun nuts out there waiting for a green light.

Anyone who's done a back and forth with a Conservative will tell you they come off like they've got a gun to your head and one false move and you're dead.

It gets quite hilarious online. I ask them if they're going to shoot their own monitor.

[freshwest]

27. Some pundit suggested that Democrats suffer from battered wife syndrome. I don't like that analogy,

But the public has been conditioned to think the only way to respond to bullying is to become a worse one. It's degrading all of society, dragging it down.

That's how I feel listening to the wing nut pundits, it's like listening to a drunk who is violent and abusive, used to getting their way and it shows. Their much too familiar tone of voice and reasoning makes about as much sense as someone fixing to pass out on the floor.

That's what the media is feeding us with examples of people being rude, cruel, disdainful to others and all living things as if it's funny and clever. It's the real culture of death to me, they shred the conscience of humanity and take it down to a very low level.

JMHO.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

38. I intend to be disdainful to Republicans

As long as they come off as bullies.

It's a safe bet it ain't gonna happen soon.

[freshwest]

41. BTW, LOL@ 'It gets quite hilarious online. I ask them if they're going to shoot their own monitor.'

[Spitfire of ATJ]

43. Years ago I had somebody tell me I owed them a monitor

They got so mad they threw theirs out a second story window. (This was back in the days of the CRT monitors.)

My response was, "Did you open the window first?"

[freshwest]

44. Hehe! Got me laughing out loud! And here I am supposed to go to sleep. Too much fun tonight!

[Cosmocat]

45. Yep, it has been a BAD two decades

I have seen it develop over the last 20 years.

They used to just silently listen to Limbaugh and feel good about their sense of personal victimhood and knowing there was an evil liberal boogyman to blame for all that they did not like in life.

That was the early/mid 90s.

The way that went after Clinton was the beginning of them going off the rails in public, and the ratio right wing spewing AM radio types exploded as there was such a good, and profitable market for it.

When the "liberal press" sold out during the Clinton years and carried every last bit of nonsense they came up with about him, the R ols started to realize that they literally could say ANYTHING, regardless of how factually baseless it was, or how vitriolic it was. and get away with it without the media holding them to account.

9-11 completely opened the floodgates when the media allowed the republicans to shout down anyone who did not agree with EVERYTHING the Rs wanted, as being unamerican and in league with terrorists. The media just stopped even trying to be impartial, and in near totality now operates from the prime directive of never negatively frame Rs/always negatively frame Ds.

This emboldened the high level pols and also brought in a new generation of absolute arsehats like Brewer and the you lie jaggoff.

Over the last 20 years, the people who sell it and their leaders have actually come to BELIEVE their crape.

And, from the top it trickles down.

[Spitfire of ATJ]

50. The influence of the Right Wing on Americas has been greatly exagerated.

As have the audience numbers.

Listen to this from the Malloy Show at the height of the outrage over the Dixie Chicks:

http://server4.whiterosesociety.org/content/malloy/MalloyMemories/Dixie_Chicked_by_the_vast_Right_Wing_Minority.mp3

[nanabugg]

11. I do believe that there are some among the RW who are watching this reaction across boards

and will really think whether or not they want themselves included in this group. I hope some will think hard and leave the party or at least vote for Obama or stay home and not vote at all.

[on point]

12. Repukes do not support the constitution no matter what they say

They understand neither the letter nor the spirit of it

[The Wizard]

14. Their Pavlovian

response is always the same. They're victims and they're going to commit mayhem. They belong in Somalia.

[morningfog]

16. The repub/conservative/tea hate and mob mentality is dangerous and serious.

IMO, this is the number one reason to vote Dem. Because the other side is fucking nuts. They are absolutely, without a doubt, insane and the leaders foment such hate in the ignorant and paranoid base that we should all be concerned.

Republicanism needs to go the way of the whigs. It is a party that is suck in the past and should not be given legitimacy in the 21st century. Republicanism, as a political party, needs to die.

[INdemo]

17. We as Democrats should have forced the Congressional Democrats to fight for Al Gore

but instead "They were ready to accept the Supreme Court decision as the rule of law."
A truly right wing decision that will be debated for generations...

[TrollBuster9090]

18. They are still not ready to accept the democratic result of the 2008 ELECTION that went

against them, so I don't know why we'd be surprised they won't accept the results of a Supreme Court ruling against them.

And most of the batshit-crazy, extremist jumping up and down over Obamacare (or his Presidency in general) that they were doing was dependent upon their belief (as fed to them by the Fox/Limbaugh/Beck/Alex Jones/Dick Armey riot inciters) that it was "unconstitutional."

Well, whether you call it a mandate or a tax, the Supreme Court just said it IS Constitutional.

Now they're left with one of two choices. Either just go back to the now relatively BLAND argument about Obama as a tax raiser, rather than a CONSTITUTION DESTROYER....or start blathering about Dred Scott, and start marginalizing the Supreme Court in their rhetoric. This, in turn, would be a terrible shock to the three complete Republican hacks on the court, Scalia, Thomas and Alito. Maybe they won't be so quick to toe the Republican line now that they know there are several million Republican Taliban out there screaming for their blood.

[TexasProgresive]

20. Robert's was born in Bermuda!

Where's his birth certificate?
Bad

[TrollBuster9090]

31. Where were his PARENTS born?

Sounds like legitimate grounds for impeachment to me!

[TexasProgresive]

34. Immigrated to Bermuda from Kenya and Rhodesia.

They had a plan and moved to Indiana where both the parents and child had extensive tutoring to eliminate that dreaded colonial accents. Escaped NAZI's made them forged identification papers with the names of a family that died in a car crash in Wyoming.

[TrollBuster9090]

36. And then THIS happened to him three nights ago? I KNEW IT!

[pacalo]

19. Thanks for sharing that, kentuck.

I especially appreciate your clear, concise summary. Well done!

[JDPriestly]

21. I want to be fair here. We would have berated the Supreme Court if the decision

had come out against the bill. I have to be honest, I would have been very upset although less upset than the Republicans are.

[Honeycombe8]

22. That is SO true. They don't respect the law. Some of them are prepared to shoot people...

as we've seen in the last few years.

What the hell has happened to people on the right?

[pinboy3niner]

23. The video clip (1:49):

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3036697/ns/msnbc_tv-hardball_with_chris_matthews/#48020483

[sandyshoes17]

28. They aren't that smart

I think a lot of right wing radio and all the propaganda has caused this, but somewhere in between really dumb people ( to politics, they may not be dumb otherwise) but its become a game with these people. Our side versus them, they have been so put into a frenzy on so many issues, they will vote against there own best interest just to win. Winning is all, they don't care as long as they own the judges, and the corporations on there side, as long as this makes them win. They shouldn't be involved with politics, but it's a game to them.

[indepat]

29. How starkly un- and anti-American the entire RW apparatus has

become is revealed by their every mantra, agenda and action: the MSM should unfailingly call them out in each and every instance of un- and anti-American utterance or behavior.

[zbdent]

30. "riot over the decision"???

Hell, I've heard them already claiming it's a VICTORY!

These people can't even face reality ...

[Dawson Leery]

32. The GOP has become a threat to the democratic process.

As seen with the Koch Brothers Tea Party: "Comply with us, OR ELSE!"

[mckara]

33. His Sense of History Gives Him a Perspective Sorely Lacking Greatly from Other Commentators

Great thought for going into the weekend.

[Mira]

35. Absolutely and exactly, it's also one of the reasons

we Democrats / Liberals / Progressives lose so much and so often.
Being in the streets and raising hell and expressing dissatisfaction and hyping our achievements past and present are all on a low burner with us.
We allow ourselves to be intimidated by the behavior of the Republicans, in spite of it being deceitful and oppressive all based on deliberate ignorance.

[JohnnyRingo]

37. The party of the "2nd ammendment solution".

Democrats have guns too, self included, but we don't pull them and scream "revolution' every time a political issue doesn't go our way.

I have friends who say they need guns in case they have to take back their government, but I wonder what they'd think if me and my liberal buddies threatened to do the same. Now I just reply: "who's asking you to do that"?

They seem to incorrectly think the whole populace is behind them in their wet-dream armed rebellion. It's my country too.

[TeamPooka]

39. Read between the lines...

Supreme's
Obamacare
Ruling
Enrages

Luddites
Outcasts
Suckers &
Every
Republican
Sap

[SunSeeker]

42. K&R

[rosesaylavee]

48. Well, yeah.

The Republicans, as a collective, are nuts.

[Quantess]

49. It's funny how fickle some people's opinions of Chris Matthews are.

When he makes a sharp comment, or grills someone the democrats don't like, he's the greatest.

When "Tweety" praises a republican or says something unpredictably critical of the left, well then he's an idiot and always has been.

Edit to say: when I say "some people" I do not necessarily mean the OP or anyone else specific. I don't keep track.

[Iggy]

51. I GET IT, BUT

in several major policy areas, there is no "stark" difference between the "two" political parties.
they're the same.

I suspect this is one reason why fifty percent of eligibile voters don't vote

[no_hypocrisy]

52. My theory is that people who aren't democrats (e.g., republicans) don't like democracy

if only because you don't get your way all the time. You have to lose sometimes. You wait and use the democratic process to try again.

They don't want to share power. They don't want to share their money.

[CrispyQ]

53. Molly Ivins summed it up best:

Republicans don't want to govern, they want to rule.

They are a party of adults behaving like two year old brats.

[Doctor_J]

54. which is why they continue to gain ground and move the country to the right

there seems to be no line in the sand for us - any defeat is shrugged off. Some of them are even cheered. "The Walker recall election was a win - now WI will move so far to the right that everyone will wake up". :WTF: :WTF:

[treestar]

55. They've conditioned themselves since Roe v. Wade

They don't think that decision was "right" and don't accept the Court power to interpret a law as constitutional or not. There are people who don't accept the idea of court review of laws.

Then some right wingers are just hypocritical - had the ACA been struck down, then the court would have that power!

[lumberjack_jeff]

57. I knew that it would be upheld when fat tony went into meltdown mode over immigration.

When they don't get their way, they are like two year olds.

[HappyMe]

59. They assumed that they had

the Supreme Court in their pocket. Which is a frightening thought. They are figuring they will rule and fuck everyone else.

This is a very important, crucial election.

[libodem]

61. It is the more true meaning of the word

Entitlement they seem to love throwing around to describe SS programs. They are the ones who feel the Supreme Court belongs to them, that they are entitled to the opinion they expected.

[bayareaboy]

62. I don't consider RePUGlicans as sore losers ...

I think that they feel they don't have to satisfy the public or the striped shirts governing the laws of America. They just seem to do what they want and screw everybody else.

There are lots of terms for what it is they do, I think that "my way or the highway" works well, but go ahead and use your own.

The problem for me is that I now see that since they won't give in then, then perhaps I or most Demo's shouldn't should not deal their horseshit either.

But they are fun to watch!

[calimary]

63. It's the World's Largest Entitlement Program

republi-CONS' and CONservatives' firmly-held belief that THEY have the Divine Right to rule. That they are the ULTIMATE "Chosen People."