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babylonsister

(171,065 posts)
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 06:21 PM Mar 2017

Preet Bharara's clever move

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/12/opinions/bharara-clever-move-cevallos/index.html

Preet Bharara's clever move
By Danny Cevallos, CNN Legal Analyst

Updated 2:44 PM ET, Sun March 12, 2017


Danny Cevallos: Trump may have done more harm to his presidency by firing Preet Bharara
It doesn't hurt the US attorney's impressive reputation, says Cevallos; instead it points suspicion toward the administration


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But a US attorney being fired instead of resigning? That's a big difference. It's also very rare. Sometimes there's a good reason to fire a US attorney. Like if he leaks information about an undercover investigation ... to the person being investigated.

In the late 2000s, there was a huge controversy when the George W. Bush administration summarily dismissed eight US attorneys, with no allegations of serious misconduct.
In the politically-charged aftermath, Attorney General Alberto Gonzales resigned, and this remains a rare instance of a mass dismissal of US attorneys by a President, without any concrete grounds.
So a firing like Bharara's is unusual.

Bharara is a superstar among US attorneys, and the man who "struck fear into Wall Street and Albany."
However, Bharara's firing might not have been an act of disrespect by the Trump administration. Rather, it might have been an act of defiance—or more appropriately—civil disobedience by Bharara, who refused the request by Sessions for him to resign.

It's a clever chess move by Bharara: force the firing, make the administration look like the tyrants.
It's not like it hurts Bharara; this is one legal luminary whose job prospects will not be harmed by being "fired" from his last job. As CNN Legal Analyst Paul Callan observed, former US attorneys from this district have even ascended to the New York City mayor's office after their tenure.

The problem is this: because of the massive power US attorneys have over every aspect of our lives, these forced resignations are particularly suspect if they appear motivated by improper political purposes.

On one hand, demanding mass resignations is part of the change in administration. US attorneys know this when they accept the job, which they obtain through the sponsorship of powerful politicians -- in Bharara's case, Sen. Charles Schumer. If forced to resign, most of them will head off to tony white-shoe law firms or don the robe as federal judges.

On the other hand, sacking US attorneys can look really fishy too.
US attorneys need to be impartial. Knowing that their job security is dependent upon the prevailing political winds could affect their judgment.
A prime example is if a US attorney needs to investigate the very administration that appointed him, or the Justice Department that supervises him. What would any of us do if we were faced with two options: investigate and prosecute a foreign terrorist organization ...or our own boss at the Justice Department? The terrorist isn't going to give me a pink slip or ruin my career advancement opportunities.

The role of the US attorneys is to "watch" the "watchmen" in the other branches, including their own executive branch. But our system does allow for a powerful, unacknowledged presidential "veto,": firing US attorneys until the only ones on the job evince an "independent" judgment that just happens to be identical to that of the President.
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Preet Bharara's clever move (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2017 OP
Maybe even the charismatic young "rock star" marybourg Mar 2017 #1
He will have his groupies. nt delisen Mar 2017 #24
Trump will destroy all who does not bow at his feet. Thinkingabout Mar 2017 #2
IMO, Bharara needs to get lost some place way out west and become an ambulance chaser. CK_John Mar 2017 #3
Why? Personal injury work is not his area of expertise. SunSeeker Mar 2017 #5
He can't trust the Witness Protection Program. nt CK_John Mar 2017 #12
He's not a witness, he's a prosecutor. SunSeeker Mar 2017 #18
I hope you said that out of concern for his personal safety. n/t rzemanfl Mar 2017 #6
He should run for Senator instead. nt. druidity33 Mar 2017 #39
We have 2 Democratic Senators from NY--Schumer & Gillibrand nt mtngirl47 Mar 2017 #56
Huh? A statement like that implies you have knowledge that we don't. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2017 #42
In a sea of fish and sharks, Preet Bharara is a killer whale IronLionZion Mar 2017 #44
I was hoping he would force DT to fire him. Wow! Alice11111 Mar 2017 #4
Gonzales is now at Belmont College in Nashville TN Lars39 Mar 2017 #8
Thanks for the update Alice11111 Mar 2017 #10
You're welcome! Lars39 Mar 2017 #14
should be in the Hague.. torture apologist. . .I can't tell you annabanana Mar 2017 #33
Al left for greener pastures several years ago to Belmont University... czarjak Mar 2017 #11
He did this for a specific reason. warmfeet Mar 2017 #7
The obvious reason is good enough, but do tell... Alice11111 Mar 2017 #17
Post removed Post removed Mar 2017 #9
The difference when Shrub did it was BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #16
There's actually a Wikipedia page devoted to the Bush firing issue... PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #27
Preet has been involved in fRump tower badguys before. lindysalsagal Mar 2017 #13
NYT said several Congressional leaders and groups Alice11111 Mar 2017 #19
"Investigate Trump Tower" -- wow Samantha Mar 2017 #31
hope springs..... Ohioblue22 Mar 2017 #15
lol@Dumbest take of the day. Go home, everyone. We have a "winner". Cha Mar 2017 #20
Indeed. It is a badge of honor to be fired by tRump. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #22
LOL!!! IronLionZion Mar 2017 #35
Really! Cha Mar 2017 #58
Excellent analysis. Thanks for posting. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #21
Another piece Bear Creek Mar 2017 #23
More proof that Trump The Wizard Mar 2017 #25
I get the impression that Bharara is not a man to be messed with. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #26
He should be appointed the special prosecutor. Liberty Belle Mar 2017 #30
Wow- Wouldn't that be something? NBachers Mar 2017 #32
I agree - but it will never happen FakeNoose Mar 2017 #45
Indeed although in general it is better to quit than be fired there are exceptions to that rule... PoliticAverse Mar 2017 #28
KNR Thank you! Lucinda Mar 2017 #29
I'd have a bigger problem with it if Preet had actually gone after a few big bankers. 7962 Mar 2017 #34
Preet has prosecuted close to 100 Wall St. Bankers IronLionZion Mar 2017 #36
Oh yes, you're right, he's gone after many on Wall St, but I meant the BIG guys. 7962 Mar 2017 #43
K&R... spanone Mar 2017 #37
I hope that Baharara has something on trump Gothmog Mar 2017 #38
K&R. dchill Mar 2017 #40
I have a sneaky feeling the Friday Night Massacre will backfire on Cheez Doo-doo meow2u3 Mar 2017 #41
Isn't it standard practice for each administration to fire the US attorneys NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #46
No, it's not standard practice to fire them. That's what the article says. yardwork Mar 2017 #47
it's standard practice to ask them to resign NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #48
Well, not exactly. Trump handled this differently than past administrations. yardwork Mar 2017 #49
No, it's not NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #50
Usually they stay till however long it takes to replace them so they can transition the bettyellen Mar 2017 #52
I wouldn't be surprised, either NewJeffCT Mar 2017 #55
Hope he doesn't have a heart attack Bayard Mar 2017 #51
He Tweeted alluding this was a shut down- and Sessions responded via tweet too! bettyellen Mar 2017 #53
Sessions' Tweeted back: bettyellen Mar 2017 #54
What an unprofessional AH Alice11111 Mar 2017 #57

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
5. Why? Personal injury work is not his area of expertise.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 07:25 PM
Mar 2017

I hope he gets hired by the NY or CA state attorney general.


What do you have against Bharara?

SunSeeker

(51,557 posts)
18. He's not a witness, he's a prosecutor.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:25 PM
Mar 2017

He has put away a lot of very dangerous people over the years. I am sure he accepted the risks that go with the job.

Squirreling him away somewhere would be a waste of a great legal talent. He would never do that anyway.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
42. Huh? A statement like that implies you have knowledge that we don't.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 12:22 PM
Mar 2017

Please, if you've got important info, don't be coy about it.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
44. In a sea of fish and sharks, Preet Bharara is a killer whale
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 01:12 PM
Mar 2017

he's an apex predator and doesn't need to hide from anyone. Trump should be afraid but is too stupid to realize the threat of having too many powerful enemies.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
4. I was hoping he would force DT to fire him. Wow!
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 06:54 PM
Mar 2017

He had prosecuted some Russian spies. Saw it on MSNBC ticker this AM amd a couple of other mentions. The problem is DT does so much so fast, it is exhausting for the press and anyone to keep up. He has that sociopathic energy. He doesn't put a lot of thought and research into it. He just knocks one story off with another, often more than one. Months ago, it was him and his tweeter, and he was still lethal, but now he has the Fed govt, AG, Congress and Repub party helping him, or at least supporting him.

I think there were grounds to fire Alberto Gonzales. Now, he is at Texas Tech Univ in Lubbock Texas. (Bobby Knight went there after he had a scandal, since left. It's like Dancing with the Stars, they look for the famous outcasts.)
(Ken Starr wound up in Waco, Texas, Baylor, and he is still embroiled in scandal, covering up rapes by athletes.)

annabanana

(52,791 posts)
33. should be in the Hague.. torture apologist. . .I can't tell you
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 06:34 AM
Mar 2017

how pissed I got when some talkinghead trotted him out for an opinion on something.

czarjak

(11,277 posts)
11. Al left for greener pastures several years ago to Belmont University...
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 07:56 PM
Mar 2017

Although his former fellow Bush lackey Jodey Arrington is now our Congressman. Also a TTU alum and employee. Knows where the trough is, trust me.

Response to babylonsister (Original post)

BumRushDaShow

(128,980 posts)
16. The difference when Shrub did it was
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:16 PM
Mar 2017

due to the timing. Most incoming Presidents request some x amount of appointees from a previous administration (of a different party) to submit resignations... and this usually happens early in the new admin's term. In the case of Shrub & Gonzo, the "firing" (I think of 9 US Attorneys) happened mid-term (not part of a transition) and was pretty much associated with political interference and retribution (which is why Gonzo eventually resigned). Clinton and Obama (and in this case with Drumpf) - were all done during general "transition" period.

Edit to add that it looks like the poster I was responding to was nuked.

lindysalsagal

(20,686 posts)
13. Preet has been involved in fRump tower badguys before.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:05 PM
Mar 2017

I'm assuming he's got stuff on fRump, and fRump felt safer firing him. Won't work. Insecure fools are never safe.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
19. NYT said several Congressional leaders and groups
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:28 PM
Mar 2017

had asked him to investigate Trump Tower and things within his jurisdiction. Evidently, he had put away a few Russians too. My guess is DT was calling him to feel him out, since they had already told him he would stay. If he had soothed the Orange One's ego, and assured him he wouldn't be following up on those requests to investigate (groveled and pledged), DT would not have fired him. However, since instead he did not return DTs call, the signals each was sending to the other were clear.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
31. "Investigate Trump Tower" -- wow
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 02:20 AM
Mar 2017

If he had stayed in his job, he might have been the person to look into Trump's allegation Obama tapped him during the campaign. And he would have been very effective in that endeavor. I wonder if that is why Trump wanted him to go....

I just read his bio, and to say he is extremely impressive is a great understatement.

Sam

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
35. LOL!!!
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 09:36 AM
Mar 2017

I'd be more concerned about people who didn't get fired by Trump. Only the most corrupt cronies get to stay.

Bear Creek

(883 posts)
23. Another piece
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 08:50 PM
Mar 2017

Bharara, who is known for investigating officials regardless of political party, prosecuted three Russian nationals for acting as spies in 2015. I seen another article earlier today where Russia wants those cases overturned.

The Wizard

(12,545 posts)
25. More proof that Trump
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 09:19 PM
Mar 2017

is a threat to the nation's security and safety. His judgement is skewed from a life of privilege. He had no idea he walked into trap. While Trump is playing bean bag, his betters play chess.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,693 posts)
26. I get the impression that Bharara is not a man to be messed with.
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 09:46 PM
Mar 2017

Kind of an Obi-Wan Kenobi: "You can't win, Trump. If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine." I would not be at all surprised to see him run for office. Senator Bharara could be a force to be reckoned with.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
28. Indeed although in general it is better to quit than be fired there are exceptions to that rule...
Sun Mar 12, 2017, 10:30 PM
Mar 2017

and this would appear to be one.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
34. I'd have a bigger problem with it if Preet had actually gone after a few big bankers.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 09:14 AM
Mar 2017

Instead of letting them walk freely

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
36. Preet has prosecuted close to 100 Wall St. Bankers
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 09:49 AM
Mar 2017

for insider trading, securities fraud, and other types of corruption. He has forced historic fines on the 4 largest banks and shut down massive hedge funds.

One of the best appointments President Obama has made. He would be on the short list for a future Dem president's Attorney General.

Of course we all wish he had gotten more of them, but who has done more?

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
43. Oh yes, you're right, he's gone after many on Wall St, but I meant the BIG guys.
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 12:46 PM
Mar 2017

The ones who organized what would become the disaster of 08, like the ones running Lehman Bros.
I do give him credit for all the good work he's done. And as you say, who has done more? Probably no one.
I just wish we could have seen a few top guns go down.

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)
41. I have a sneaky feeling the Friday Night Massacre will backfire on Cheez Doo-doo
Mon Mar 13, 2017, 11:49 AM
Mar 2017

Bharara will likely end up smelling like a rose, especially that he prosecuted banksters and may well have the goods on Tramp.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
46. Isn't it standard practice for each administration to fire the US attorneys
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 07:00 AM
Mar 2017

from the previous administration? Or, am I missing something?

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
48. it's standard practice to ask them to resign
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:15 AM
Mar 2017

when a new administration starts. And, it's standard practice for them to resign.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
49. Well, not exactly. Trump handled this differently than past administrations.
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 11:27 AM
Mar 2017

It's not standard to give them one days notice to resign. Not at all.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
52. Usually they stay till however long it takes to replace them so they can transition the
Tue Mar 14, 2017, 01:43 PM
Mar 2017

New person. Honestly I would t be surprised if they were trashing his office right now - and blaming him for it.

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