How Did Steve Bannon's Jacuzzi Wind Up Covered in Acid?

[steve2470]

http://theslot.jezebel.com/how-did-steve-bannons-jacuzzi-wind-up-covered-in-acid-1793190756

H/T from https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/during-his-political-rise-stephen-k-bannon-was-a-man-with-no-fixed-address/2017/03/11/89866f4c-0285-11e7-ad5b-d22680e18d10_story.html


The Washington Post published an intricate investigation into White House chief strategist Steve Bannon’s shady residential history on Saturday, from which one extremely bleak detail stands out in particular, an email sent to Bannon in February 2015 by one of his former Florida landlords that reads, in part, “[E]ntire Jacuzzi bathtub seems to have been covered in acid.”

Bannon’s reply was entirely too curt. “I’m out of town,” Bannon wrote, “is there any way u can talk with Diane and sort things out ???”

The acid reportedly destroyed the tub and the property’s landlords estimated it caused $14,000 worth of damage. They did not return Bannon and ex-wife Diane Clohesy’s $9,800 security deposit.

No other details about the acid-drenched tub are provided by the Post reporters, leaving us all wondering what the fuck occurred. Some possible explanations:

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Covered in acid, WTF?!

[underpants]

1. Anyone seen "10 Cloverfield Lane"?

There is an acid thing in that movie used to get rid of bodies.

Sounds like someone purposely did damage AND really knew what they were doing.

[sarcasmo]

15. Breaking Bad style.

[Bengus81]

17. LOL...just saw it two days ago...

Yep...acid works well!

[underpants]

31. Really good huh?

I'd heard that Goodman was really good in it but he was outstanding. Should have been nominated IMHO. Several massive sudden plot changes. More than a bit creepy in a way I was not expecting too.

[Bengus81]

63. Yep,good but I really liked the first Cloverfield too and many didn't....

It's still one of my favs....

[Jim Beard]

74. its lie, same thing that is Draino.

[Thor_MN]

83. Lye is not acidic, and it's not spelled lie.

[unblock]

2. I specifically said a plastic barrel!

[Warren DeMontague]

13. ...

[VOX]

16. "Jesse! Apply yourself!"

[mountain grammy]

46. Yep!

great scene!

[yardwork]

47. You didn't learn anything in my science class, did you?

[Cirque du So-What]

3. I've read enough 'true crime' stories

to know that murderers occasionally dissolve their victims with various strong acids in the bathtub. It leaves an indelible stain, however, and that has been used in court as circumstantial evidence.

[volstork]

11. Well, he's already

an indelible stain, so....

[littlemissmartypants]

21. DUzy. nt

[Equinox Moon]

22. good one

[Jeroen]

4. Perhaps he has some weird Dexter routine in the weekends n/t

[HipChick]

5. Many people say...and lots of people say

He got rid of a body in that tub....has anyone checked for his connections with any folks that went missing around that time?

[50 Shades Of Blue]

6. He oozed

[Orrex]

7. Because he's a shoggoth that secretes a caustic slime instead of sweat

[pinboy3niner]

8. There's only one answer...

[littlemissmartypants]

23. Roger niner. High fiver.

Do you have a lock on the target?

[LeftInTX]

9. I ruined my bathtub when I used toilet bowl cleaner on it!!

I've got hard water and had a very thick layer of calcium on my tub. (It literally turned to rock) Lime Away didn't work. So I used 20% HCL toilet bowl cleaner.

[milestogo]

10. I think it is more likely that he was destroying a body than cleaning a Jacuzzi

knowing what I know of Steve Bannon.

[The Big Ragu]

14. That would be an acid?

[LeftInTX]

41. Yes, hydrochloric acid

[notdarkyet]

32. Kaboom. Gentler for hard water stains. Pumice stone to get the built

Up calcium off.

[KittyWampus]

33. Yup. Found Kaboom and it works.

[ProfessorGAC]

70. A Bathtub Made Of What?

HCl comes in plastic bottles, does not damage glass, but is hard on most ferrous metals. This is especially true of stainless steels because the chloride attacks the grain structure and leaches out nickel. (For the 20 and 300 series of stainless.) You can get bad cracking then.

Were there cracks in the porcelain or ceramic? 20% HCl is admittedly pretty strong as you can't get higher than 37%. The gas won't dissolve in water beyond that. But, unless you had some unusual material of construction, that shouldn't have happened unless there was direct exposure to the metal itself. (And cast iron is less susceptible than stainless steels, but not really resistant.)

BTW: Not sure it you can get this in a hardware store, but citric acid is a very good lime removal acid. It has a much lower pKa so it takes a little longer, but the calcium citrate salts that result are soluble to 50% in water and there are no nasty vapors and the burn hazard to the skin is negligible compared to HCl. Just a heads up at something safer.

Oxalic acid works pretty good too, but is better on iron deposits and while a bit toxic, is actually available as a food grade material so it takes a lot to hurt you. It's the active substance (aside from surfactant) in Barkeeper's Friend.

[Thor_MN]

84. Oxalic acid is a boat owner's best friend for cleaning below the water line when you pull the boat

Easiest source to find is powdered wood bleach at a true, old fashioned hardware store. Don't bother with the big box stores, they won't have it. You can buy the equivalent of 10-20 quarts of hull cleaner for less than half the price of one quart. Just make sure you rinse it off the boat and especially off the trailer.

[LeftInTX]

87. Powdered citric acid is available in grocery stores. I use a product called Lemi-Shine

I learned my lesson a few years ago, after the tub fiasco.

I think banning of phosphates had something to do with the nasty build up. I had previously used a phosphorus based product called Sanivac.

When they replaced phosphates in the cleaning products, my tub gradually built up a film over several years.

After ruining my tub, I found out that making a citric acid paste and letting it sit is more effective than strong acid.

My water has a pH that ranges from 8 to 8.5. Chalky limestone aquifer. The 8.5 pH occurred during a prolonged drought.

[malaise]

75. Get

Simple Green

[shraby]

85. Vinegar will dissolve lime too.

[LeftInTX]

86. Not in my tub

Because the way tubs and showers are shaped, vinegar quickly flows down the drain.

My water has a ph of at least 8. (It has tested as a high as 8.5 during droughts) My tub literally had caliche (calcium carbonate rock) forming on it. Our water comes from a chalky limestone aquifer. During droughts it sucks up more dissolved calcium from the bottom of the aquifer.

When phosphates were banned a few years ago, I could not even touch the dishes coming out of the dishwasher without getting chalk all over my hands.

It takes either some strong acid or long lasting acid.

After ruining the finish on my tub, I researched the problem and found that using a long lasting weak acid actually works better than stronger acids.

I make a thick paste with Lemi-Shine (citric acid powder) and let it sit over night. It works.
I also use Lemi-Shine in the dishwasher.

We really should own a water softener........

[safeinOhio]

12. He has a wife?

Wow

[LisaL]

19. Ex-wife.

[VOX]

20. He's had three. How they could stand to look at him, I can't imagine.

He looks like he smells of stale beer, human grease, rotting teeth and sloughing skin. Talk about hideous! He could make a train take a dirt road.

[Alice11111]

28. I have a cold, and you made me laugh so hard, I choked.

Must be a conspiracy.

[notdarkyet]

34. If Donald likes people to look their parts, good job casting bannon as the evil

Disgusting, fascist pig.

[Maru Kitteh]

37. VOX!

My sides hurt.

[lastlib]

38. Role model for Jabba the Hutt?

[bdamomma]

40. how covenient

both bannon and 45 have been married 3 times. those unfortunate women.

[mountain grammy]

48. all that and more..

you're killing me.

[JTFrog]

64. It wears a human face!

Watching that new show Legion.... one of the scientists warns that the disgusting blob of a monster hides behind a human face.

I now love that expression for all of our treasonous overlords.

[not fooled]

65. "Scrofulous Steve"

[Blue_Tires]

66. How the hell has this cretin had three wives and I can't find one?

[kwassa]

69. He has a lot of money ....

apparently made a fortune off the syndication of the Seinfeld series. Don't ask.

[Mopar151]

73. Another Bernie Ecclestone?

And that ain't good.....

[smirkymonkey]

68. *snort*

[LuckyLib]

71. Ew-w-w-w! But you forgot to add tobacco. He looks like he reeks of cigarettes!

[womanofthehills]

39. Ex wife Diane Clohesy - still good friends - Diane is a pretty drug addict

She got caught trying to smuggle drugs and a cell phone into a Florida jail plus other drug charges. Also read her boyfriends were drug dealers.

[yardwork]

49. As we were saying about the tub....

[snooper2]

59. you can drop the "pretty" part LOL

at least now we know how bannon got his meth- He kept paying her rent for years after their divorce. While she was screwing inmates and hanging out with drug dealer boyfriends.

[AngryAmish]

18. Pozolero

[littlemissmartypants]

24. Kicking.

♡ steve2470

[steve2470]

25. hey there, hope you are well! nt

[Equinox Moon]

26. Mexican Man Admits Using Acid on Bodies, Army Says

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/25/world/americas/25mexico.html

...he was accused of dumping bodies into pits over the last decade, pouring acid on them and letting them dissolve underground.

Mr. Meza admitted as much as the authorities surrounded him and ordered him to speak up to the press. “I ask for forgiveness from the families of these people,” he said, according to the newspaper Reforma.

[steve2470]

27. good find, I can't imagine using acid in a jacuzzi for any other purpose nt

[Equinox Moon]

29. Apparently, there is an acid process used for pig related to cooking for consumption.

[steve2470]

30. hmm, yea if there had been small remnants of pig, he'd be out of suspicion LOL nt

[eppur_se_muova]

42. Are you thinking of ceviche ?

That would only require lemon or lime juice, maybe vinegar -- not a "strong" acid, and certainly shouldn't damage a Jacuzzi.

I'd guess he tried cleaning it with something too corrosive and damaged it.

[bronxiteforever]

35. He was developing an acid that would burn through the security glass to destroy the Bill of Rights

[Bernardo de La Paz]

36. Revenge by or against ex? Mafia types putting the frighteners on?

[democratisphere]

43. Remains of a do-if-yourself skin peel for Bannon's lovely complexion.

[Stinky The Clown]

44. Let me just pose a few questions and maybe tamp down the tin foil a couple of levels

What kind of tub was this? Was it a cast iron/porcelain tub with jets? A fiberglas tub with jets? A resin tub with jets?

Porcelain is impervious to acids. Fiberglass and resin can be affected by even a weak acid like lemon juice. It won't eat them away, but it can severely dull a glossy finish.

I also can't imagine that a moderately strong acid solution in the pumps could cause some harm.

And what kind of acid? An acidic bathroom cleaner (which can dull a glossy plastic/fiberglas surface)? Muriatic acid used in some ill-advised attempt to get the tub clean? A body dissolving acid right out of some crime drama?

It is entirely possible dumb-assed use of one of the MANY highly acidic cleaners was the cause of all this.



Can we get a grip?

[Warren DeMontague]

45. He might have had a bad incident of passing out and shitting himself in the thing

only to wake up the next morning floating in a hot cauldron of his own foulness, requiring extraordinary cleaning measures.

It's a perfectly logical explanation.

[Stinky The Clown]

54. "It's a perfectly logical explanation."

Indeed it is.

[Warren DeMontague]

55. "WORST. GUMBO. EVER."

[LeftInTX]

56. His ex probably used toilet bowl cleaner

She probably let the tub go without cleaning and when it wouldn't get clean, she used toilet bowl cleaner.

[PatSeg]

62. Not as exciting

but probably what happened. I have seen people ruin many things in an effort to clean them with the wrong cleaner.

[NastyRiffraff]

50. His response to the phone call was weird

I mean, if somebody called me and said my jacuzzi (like I have one!) was covered in acid my response certainly would NOT be that I'm out of town and tell them to talk to my spouse! My response would be something like: "What the FUCK!!??"

[Lucinda]

76. +1

[mountain grammy]

51. Several explanations according to the article..

1. Bannon spilled his drink

2. Someone called Ghostbusters

3. Experimentation with early “Drain the Swamp” prototype

4. Tax return stew

5. Jacuzzi saw Bannon in a bathing suit and self-destructed

6. The acid oozed from Bannon’s poisoned skin

7. Sometimes Jacuzzis melt

All quite plausible in my mind.

[Rollo]

52. He might be on acid

[lunasun]

53. Psycho killer run run away . Bet he enjoys organ meat sauted in malt liqour

[smirkymonkey]

57. Acid? You sure it wasn't Bourbon?

[sellitman]

58. I think he spilled some on his Nose

🤔

[Gothmog]

60. Bannon is a lizard person

This is what lizard people do

[Skinner]

61. This explains it (From the Onion)

Steve Bannon Marks Draft Of Executive Order He Likes With Noxious Pheromone Secretion



http://www.theonion.com/graphic/steve-bannon-marks-draft-executive-order-he-likes--55353

[Tikki]

67. There are acids used in making some drugs.

Tikki

[Vinca]

72. He probably drowned puppies in acid for sport.

[MFM008]

77. Acid hell

It was probably just what leeched out of HIS foul carcass after using it once.

[packman]

78. I once had a pool and was throwing all sorts of PH balancers in it

acids (pool recommended - weak HCL, I think) and baking soda to lower the PH. Sounds like someone got careless with the spa acid - unless they are dissolving bodies in it.

[joanbarnes]

79. I watched Breaking Bad so I know they tried to fry a body.

[LudwigPastorius]

80. Hydrochloric or sulfuric acid and sodium hydroxide...

are all ingredients used to cook meth.

Maybe he and his ex were smuggling more than cell phones and pot into prison to make a little money on the side.

#MakeAmericaTweakAgain

[heaven05]

81. well certain acids

are used by the nefarious to destroy evidence of the human type....either Hoffa ended up hamburger on someones table or acid disappeared him, my tinfoil hat theories.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

82. If anyone has ever read Tim Dorsey's novel Electric Barracuda.....

....acid and a hot tub (as well as culprits behind the 2008 bank crash) figure prominently in the novel's shenanigans.

[zentrum]

89. It's just because...

...he personally bathed in it every day. Completely unintentional on his part.