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(19,066 posts)Been saying this for over a year. The fake news started in the primaries. Bernie supporters fell for fake stories about Hillary and it's why they hated her so much.
And can't count how many times I saw Bernie supporters sharing fake stories about Hillary in Facebook where my comment would be, "Um, you know this is a fake story right?" Gullibility isnt a monopoly of the Right.
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)... going to far in saying DU was a target of the coup, its the most visited one side, exclusive poli board on the internets.
The number of hit and runs with the smiling waving hands was numerous and so were our TO's who defended Obama.
This doesn't end soon
Johnny2X2X
(19,066 posts)And here's the thing though, it didn't have to be hit and run, these fake stories were shared and promoted by millions of Bernie supporters after they were read.
Now The tone of the fake stories definitely changed when the general election came upon us. The stories went from Hillary is a cheat to Hillary is a murderer and a foreign agent. By the time it was done a fascist slime ball who has cheated at business his whole life, brags about sex assault, and is beholden to our enemies seemed like a better option to 60 million Americans. Insane!
uponit7771
(90,339 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,477 posts)unitedwethrive
(1,997 posts)DavidDvorkin
(19,477 posts)Igel
(35,309 posts)We've made "fake news" to mean exactly what Trump makes it to mean: "News I don't like."
There was fake news. Utterly made up. No basis in truth, or such a slight basis as to be divorced from reality. Few people saw it; those who saw it seem not to be able to remember the difference between the "real fake news" and fake news made up for a study. In other words, it left very little impression, and most of those who saw it were unaffected by it, when it comes to their vote.
Then there's scandalous real news that is utterly meaningless but is crucial because says something true and bad about somebody we don't like. That's the HRC emails. That's the DNC emails. Nobody's saying that HRC didn't have her own server; nobody's saying that those checking into whether her mail was secure or not didn't do so. The DNC emails released weren't fictitious; they were real, they were true, they were irrelevant. Most of the news reported like this was scandalous and titillating, and since it said something we wanted to justify our actions we believed it was important. Nobody believed a lie.
Now, many of the fake news sites were from Central Europe and some from Eastern Europe (please note that "Eastern Europe" a la 1970s and 1980s is a political construct that no longer exists; "eastern Europe" is really just Russia, perhaps BR and Ukr, but those are also a bit sketchy for inclusion in that category). But the vast majority of the news that most Americans got were from CNN, Fox, NPR, NBC, CBS ... These sources ran with all the trivial-but-scandalous news that did the real harm.
Ultimately, though, it wasn't the Russians that "hacked" the electorate with fake news or insignificant scandals, the electorate self-hacked in rushing to judgment and rushing after scandal without thinking. And many Sanders supporters were exactly that, no matter their education and their self-vaunted "critical thinking" skillset. When emotions and a rush for power come along, slow, critical thinking that seeks truth first and foremost and tries to set it in context don't really count for much.
Demsrule86
(68,576 posts)and we lost many fine DUer's...yours truly took a 'vacation' but I was unwise and broke the rules...so I had it coming.
Talk Is Cheap
(389 posts)You have to wonder where these 'articles' and 'tweets' are coming from...
Why are people dumping on Sanders and Sanders' supporters - especially with lies like this tweet and HuffPo article?
Stand and Fight
(7,480 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)If you spent any amount of time on Twitter in 2016 (or even now), you would have found it all over the place...
Link to tweet
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... and sadly, the effects of that are still lingering with us today. Even within the replies of this thread, or throughout the Internet machine on the World-Wide-Web, or on the YouTube, one doesn't have to look very far to see the hyper-defensiveness and denials. Oh well. I hope that someday everyone realizes that we are #StrongerTogether
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026279986
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141532557
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141658998
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028774791
http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/the-real-paranoia-inducing-purpose-of-russian-hacks
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/busted-trump-loving-comment-trolls-pose-as-sanders-and-clinton-supporters-to-divide-democrats/
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/donald-trump-twitter-army-228923
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-12-23/putin-slams-us-democratic-party-shameless-losers-says-russia-alone-believed-trumps-v
https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/31/world/europe/russia-finland-nato-trolls.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html?utm_term=.35350b8fd242
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/31/trump-trolls-plot-to-bait-bernie-and-hillary-into-twitter-wars.html
http://www.dw.com/en/divide-europe-european-lawmakers-warn-of-russian-propaganda/a-36016836
https://warontherocks.com/2016/11/trolling-for-trump-how-russia-is-trying-to-destroy-our-democracy/