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OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 07:04 PM Mar 2017

Choose Between iPhones & Healthcare. Tom Perezs Response Is PERFECT

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/03/07/chaffetz-just-said-people-must-choose-iphones-healthcare-tom-perezs-response-perfect/

>"“Rep. Jason Chaffetz is a shameless hypocrite.

“He makes a six-figure taxpayer salary, has taxpayer subsidized healthcare, and he still thinks working Americans should be forced to choose between health insurance or owning a telephone.

“It’s no wonder why Republicans kept their plan hidden for so long. It’s also glaringly obvious why they’re so desperate to ram it through Congress — they don’t want the public to find out what’s in it.

“If passed, this plan will throw millions of Americans off their healthcare and make it more expensive for millions more, especially seniors who will see cuts to Medicaid and increased premiums. For many Americans, it’s a death sentence.”<

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Choose Between iPhones & Healthcare. Tom Perezs Response Is PERFECT (Original Post) OxQQme Mar 2017 OP
They are pure evil scum BSdetect Mar 2017 #1
Dingdingding shenmue Mar 2017 #21
The wealthy gets tax cuts though... Blanks Mar 2017 #2
Let them eat I-phones Justice Mar 2017 #3
+1 narnian60 Mar 2017 #20
Good.one Alice11111 Mar 2017 #30
Plus, Congress should have the same choices they foist on us. JudyM Mar 2017 #4
Off subject but I must say that your picture Doreen Mar 2017 #7
Don't you just wish you saw it in person? Interspecies affection is one of my favorite things. JudyM Mar 2017 #11
Yes I wish I had seen that in person. I had a cat who touched noses with a deer. It was adorable. Doreen Mar 2017 #13
I suspect what the cat was showing affection for was the delicious fishy smell of the dolphin or tblue37 Mar 2017 #15
Bingo! gmta Hekate Mar 2017 #17
And the dolphin's motivation? JudyM Mar 2017 #19
Congress is full of millionairs Merlot Mar 2017 #39
True, but they shouldn't have *better* plans than the rest of us. JudyM Mar 2017 #40
Getting congress to pass conflict of interest rules! Merlot Mar 2017 #41
Yeah, how sad is that. But we need it more than just about anything else JudyM Mar 2017 #42
If we fixed the election system we probably wouldn't need Merlot Mar 2017 #44
One iPhone 7 Plus $850. One MRI: $1500. mwooldri Mar 2017 #5
$1500.?? My husband's last MRI was $7400.00 OKNancy Mar 2017 #12
I apologize. What was I thinking? mwooldri Mar 2017 #23
An MRI is now $7400??? Bengus81 Mar 2017 #36
I screwed up... that was his PET scan. OKNancy Mar 2017 #38
Health care costs are regional Merlot Mar 2017 #45
Mine... Grins Mar 2017 #46
- Bigredhunk Mar 2017 #6
That odious weasel Chaffetz replaced my Palin space. Kittycow Mar 2017 #8
fucker gets a free iPhone. And don't worry about his family health plan-- librechik Mar 2017 #43
Love this.... jannyd65 Mar 2017 #48
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Mar 2017 #9
K & R SunSeeker Mar 2017 #10
I have an Obama phone. Had it about four years. Don't tell any Rebugs notdarkyet Mar 2017 #14
Did you get the special Obama phone that included healthcare? Merlot Mar 2017 #26
Yes, they can take my healthcare too. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #27
Six figures for a job he won't do. Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #16
Support Chaffetz's potential 2018 opponent... RobertDevereaux Mar 2017 #18
Gracias Tom Perez!!!! Cha Mar 2017 #22
Well, despite Trump's claims, dead people seldom vote. tclambert Mar 2017 #24
Too bad, because he's going to make a lot of them Alice11111 Mar 2017 #32
Does chaffitz even know how much a phone costs? Merlot Mar 2017 #25
Yeah Verizon is at least $100 / month and that's not including the cost of the phone. Initech Mar 2017 #28
Find a doctor? raven mad Mar 2017 #29
But now he's going to give you tax credits if you can save Alice11111 Mar 2017 #31
Chaffetz should go back to Building Dams March 4th Mar 2017 #33
Nah, that's honest work. House of Roberts Mar 2017 #34
If you're implying he looks like a beaver.. mdbl Mar 2017 #35
"The bottom 10% of this country has no future." raging moderate Mar 2017 #37
In ways, the rich and greedy people who have among their ranks...... nolabels Mar 2017 #47

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
13. Yes I wish I had seen that in person. I had a cat who touched noses with a deer. It was adorable.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 07:53 PM
Mar 2017

tblue37

(65,488 posts)
15. I suspect what the cat was showing affection for was the delicious fishy smell of the dolphin or
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:04 PM
Mar 2017

its most recent meal!

JudyM

(29,277 posts)
19. And the dolphin's motivation?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 08:50 PM
Mar 2017


BTW, the cat is head-butting, which is an expression of affection.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
39. Congress is full of millionairs
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:40 AM
Mar 2017

so if the price of healtcare goes up, no big deal to them.

IGMFU

JudyM

(29,277 posts)
40. True, but they shouldn't have *better* plans than the rest of us.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:48 AM
Mar 2017

And we need bloody conflict of interest rules for them!

JudyM

(29,277 posts)
42. Yeah, how sad is that. But we need it more than just about anything else
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:02 PM
Mar 2017

other than fixing our election system. We are owned.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
44. If we fixed the election system we probably wouldn't need
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:11 PM
Mar 2017

confilct of interst rules. Publicly funded elections and no corporations say in who elect politicians. Then there would just be graft and corruption which is at least more obvious when caught.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
5. One iPhone 7 Plus $850. One MRI: $1500.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 07:26 PM
Mar 2017

After insurance came down to $650. We got to meet deductible....

The iPhone is tangible and can be resold. The MRI doesn't cover the cost of the doctor who interprets the MRI scan. That's billed separately.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
12. $1500.?? My husband's last MRI was $7400.00
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 07:52 PM
Mar 2017

Plus as you said the extra for the radiologist who reads it.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
23. I apologize. What was I thinking?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:38 PM
Mar 2017

That wasn't an MRI. It was an ultrasound.

I should go in and edit my original to say it was an ultrasound and not an MRI. But at that cost in my opinion it might well have been.

Bengus81

(6,932 posts)
36. An MRI is now $7400???
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:31 AM
Mar 2017

Gawd,I had one done in 2002 on a knee and it was $1200.00. Gee,wonder why health care costs have EXPLODED. All because of the ACA?? Hardly.

I know the business I used to have (service industry) sure as hell didn't have price increases like that. In fact during the Bush disaster there were NO price increases for years.

OKNancy

(41,832 posts)
38. I screwed up... that was his PET scan.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 10:06 AM
Mar 2017

MRIs are way expensive too, but I forgot the amount off-hand.

We have Blue Cross through the marketplace. It saved my husband's life.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
45. Health care costs are regional
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:13 PM
Mar 2017

I don't have the link, but a study of the same procedures was done in different parts of the country. It's possible that an MRI could cost $1200 in one place and $7400 in another.

Unless you live in Canada.

Grins

(7,231 posts)
46. Mine...
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:23 PM
Mar 2017

Visit to a GP over an elbow problem.
He sent me to a neurologist.
She sent me to get an MRI.
He took the pics, did a quick interpretation.
Then sent me back to the neurologist.
She sent me to an orthopedist.
He began initial treatment that didn't work.
Now I'm in the hospital having surgery. (Surgeon, two anesthesiologists, plus nurses, plus staff, and post-surgery drugs.)
Then rehab.
None of it worked.
Back to the neurologist.
More tests.
Time to get a new MRI.

That's when I said I can live with it and stopped. Six doctors and a bunch of other professionals over 45-days, all for the cost of (guessing) 45 iPhones.


librechik

(30,676 posts)
43. fucker gets a free iPhone. And don't worry about his family health plan--
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:03 PM
Mar 2017

that's free too. Don't these hypocrites have a basement level?

jannyd65

(22 posts)
48. Love this....
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 02:22 PM
Mar 2017

it seems it's okay for him to shop at the Apple Store on our dime. And if a person does by an Apple phone, it's their business, not his!

Also, if this hasn't been suggested elsewhere, I think people need to send Chaffetz their broken cell phones-even toy ones would be great!

Maybe he'll get the message that people are choosing between keeping a roof over their head vs. healthcare.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
26. Did you get the special Obama phone that included healthcare?
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:26 AM
Mar 2017

And yes, the repubs will take it away!

Cha

(297,683 posts)
22. Gracias Tom Perez!!!!
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:38 PM
Mar 2017

Mahalo, OxQQme

http://occupydemocrats.com/2017/03/07/chaffetz-just-said-people-must-choose-iphones-healthcare-tom-perezs-response-perfect/

>"“Rep. Jason Chaffetz is a shameless hypocrite.

“He makes a six-figure taxpayer salary, has taxpayer subsidized healthcare, and he still thinks working Americans should be forced to choose between health insurance or owning a telephone.

“It’s no wonder why Republicans kept their plan hidden for so long. It’s also glaringly obvious why they’re so desperate to ram it through Congress — they don’t want the public to find out what’s in it.

“If passed, this plan will throw millions of Americans off their healthcare and make it more expensive for millions more, especially seniors who will see cuts to Medicaid and increased premiums. For many Americans, it’s a death sentence.”<

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
24. Well, despite Trump's claims, dead people seldom vote.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:51 AM
Mar 2017

So they don't really factor into the Republicans' political calculus. The families of the dead people might vote against them in the next election, and that's a problem for them. The opinions of their big donors matter the most, of course. So insurance companies and their executives, plus the rich people who get tax breaks hidden in this bill--those people really matter. Morality? Ha! Killing people? Meh. The American people in general? They'll just lie to them again and again, and try to distract voters with tales of scary brown people.

(Those brown people are gonna take jobs from good American white people! And they're so lazy, they will live off welfare paid for by white people's taxes! And they're gonna strap on suicide vests and blow up white people, like they did in Bowling Green and Atlanta! That's why we need to shut down all the stuff with brown people, just shut it all down, until Donald Trump can figure out what's going on. And Lord knows, that will take forever.)

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
25. Does chaffitz even know how much a phone costs?
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 01:25 AM
Mar 2017

For me an iphone would cover ONE MONTH of healtcare. Might as well take the phone so I can hopefully call someone as I lay dying to ask them to feed my dog.

Initech

(100,103 posts)
28. Yeah Verizon is at least $100 / month and that's not including the cost of the phone.
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 02:06 AM
Mar 2017

If you're poor, you can't afford an iPhone either.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
31. But now he's going to give you tax credits if you can save
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 02:20 AM
Mar 2017

up for that cancer or accident. Plus, if you can manage to pay for your Rx, he'll give you a tax credit. If you can't, maybe you won't be around to do your taxes.

Ingrates, he thinks. If they don't like it, they can just die.
Yeah, but a lot will be homeless, and you will have to drive by them in your limo.

raging moderate

(4,309 posts)
37. "The bottom 10% of this country has no future."
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:47 AM
Mar 2017

I can remember reading this quotation from a Republicon official about 45 years ago. Not long after they bought a future for their party by taking the white supremacists off our hands. As I recall, they were already arguing that poor people should not be paid enough money to have telephones in their homes. I remembered the frantic scenes in my own home, when my sick little brother's fever suddenly shot up in the middle of the night. Luckily we had a telephone, and a saintly doctor. These monsters seldom speak honestly about their real aim, which is to somehow cause a few billion people to die, decreasing the surplus population and leaving the rest of us in servile terror.

nolabels

(13,133 posts)
47. In ways, the rich and greedy people who have among their ranks......
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 12:30 PM
Mar 2017

people who crave and demand ever more novel ways to extend their lives and those they care about that have brought some of this health-care cost crisis on unintentionally. Of course, the greedy corporations are mostly to blame with the skimming and gouging but without all these ever increasing costly refinements and knowledge of more precise treatments there wouldn't have been as much of this straight upward trajectory in costs.

I am all for any kind of these things that saves people's lives and makes things better but understanding how things work can sometimes be just as important. The thing is now there are people who are unresponsive and un-respective of society's general will that are trying to make decisions that have little to do with people's well-being. This will fail and always has

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