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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat should President Obama have done when he was told by intelligence that Russia had interfered?
In our elections?
What do you think he should have done?
It seems to me that he did a very thoughtful and thorough job.
Just my opinion.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,121 posts)and another if you are a black guy.
He would have been savagely destroyed by the media and the right for allegedly playing politics which he wouldnt have been doing.
I think he knows in his heart of hearts that america is done in that there is no way to resolve this because to do that you need patriots in the GOP.
Girard442
(6,085 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)and taken steps to stop it. I think the federal government has the responsibility to ensure integrity of national elections.
Hekate
(90,816 posts)...that we would probaby never hear about, as well as some we would eventually hear about.
One of the actions we have heard about in recent weeks was that the Obama admin spread all the info they had around to all of the 17 IC departments so that no one with ill intent could just bundle everything into a burn bag and destroy it. Malcolm Nance has spoken authoritatively and approvingly about these actions on Rachel Maddow's show.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)g and imposing some sanctions. Unfortunately, after the election was a little late. If he announced it before the election, then I stand corrected.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)He informed the public that 17 intelligence agencies said there was high probability that the Russians had interfered in our elections.
Was there anyone in America that did not know we suspected the Russians of interfering in our elections, other than Donald Trump?
Why did they have to meet the Russian ambassador in secret? In one instance, they slipped the Russian ambassador thru a backdoor, past any reporters or cameras, for a meeting with Flynn and Jared Kushner, his son-in-law. What did they discuss? It must have been important to be so secretive about it, don't you think?
Doreen
(11,686 posts)having it thoroughly investigated.
leftstreet
(36,112 posts)oh well
Hekate
(90,816 posts)...the CIA has -- oh heck I can't remember all the stuff NPR reported while I was driving the freeway, but let's say they've been busy people. Good for them.
As for Assange of Wikileaks, I wish someone would shut him up by removing every piece of electronic equipment from his room in the embassy. Give him a dime to use the payphone in the lobby.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Damn the consequences, damn the political viewpoints. For once in his life, he should have been partisan. He should have been the President of the the People in This Country Who Want to Stay Alive and Believe in Education.
He should have alerted Hillary and the DNC immediately and ensured that there was a political liaison to help the DNC take appropriate measures to protect itself and its data.
He thought Hillary would win and would assume leadership over investigation of the activities. It never occurred to him that Hillary would lose. He should have assumed Trump would win and acted in accordance with that viewpoint.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)I thought he did all the things that you mentioned? But, as I recall, it became a big issue of the campaign?
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)For one, the White House was probably afraid of looking like it was tipping the scale in Hillary Clintons favor, especially in an election that her opponent repeatedly described as rigged. Though Obama stumped for Clinton around the country, the administration didnt want to open him up to attacks that he unfairly used intelligence to undermine Trumps campaign, the Post reported.
Instead, top White House officials gathered key lawmakersleadership from the House and Senate, plus the top Democrats and Republicans from both houses intelligence and homeland security committeesto ask for a bipartisan condemnation of Russias meddling. The effort was stymied by several Republicans who werent willing to cooperate, including, reportedly, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. (On Sunday morning, a bipartisan statement condemning the hacks came from incoming Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, Jack Reed, a Democrat, and Republicans John McCain and Lindsey Graham.)
Its also possible that the administration, like most pollsters and pundits, was overconfident in its assessment that Clinton would win the election. Officials may have been more willing to lob incendiary accusationsand risk setting off a serious political or cyber conflict with Russiaif they had thought Trump had a good chance to win.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/12/why-didnt-obama-reveal-intel-about-russias-influence-on-the-election/510242/
If he couldn't get bipartisan agreement (which, again, he would NEVER get from this cabal of Republicans), he should have gone ahead with a condemnation from the White House. The WH and Office of the Presidency carries a lot weight.
In September, during a secret briefing for congressional leaders, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) voiced doubts about the veracity of the intelligence, according to officials present.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/obama-orders-review-of-russian-hacking-during-presidential-campaign/2016/12/09/31d6b300-be2a-11e6-94ac-3d324840106c_story.html?utm_term=.eb440bdb3146
This had been known for months. Harry Reid tried to sound the alarm. The President should have backed him up.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Without the other Party, it was assumed that it would look like nothing more than blatant partisanship.
Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Should we really have cared about being partisan? So much was at stake.
It was worth the risk and potential hit to his legacy to go public in a forceful and emphatic matter.
His job should have been to push public opinion in Hillary's favor and motivate those people who didn't vote because they thought Hillary would win to get up off their butts and vote for her just to ensure we didn't get ruled by Russia.
adigal
(7,581 posts)I think Obama spent a bit too much time worrying about angering those who hate him and worrying about his approval rating. But that's just my opinion.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)Hekate
(90,816 posts)The man is obviously just a pile of mush. <--
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Hekate
(90,816 posts)Honestly, I'll never understand. (more sarcasm)