AARP is ticked off about Trumpcare.

[kstewart33]

New York Times:

WASHINGTON — Republican plans to repeal the Affordable Care Act have encountered a new obstacle: adamant opposition from many older Americans whose health insurance premiums would increase.

AARP and its allies are bombarding congressional offices with objections as two House committees plan to vote on the Republicans’ bill this week.

If the law is repealed, the groups say, people in their 50s and 60s could see premiums rise by $2,000 to $3,000 a year or more: increases of 20 percent to 25 percent or higher.

Under current rules, insurers cannot charge older adults more than three times what they charge young adults for the same coverage. House Republican leaders would allow a ratio of five to one — or more, if states choose.

Link: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/05/us/politics/health-care-law-obamacare-repeal-older-americans.html?_r=0

[mcar]

1. You do not want to mess with AARP

[SharonAnn]

37. They're doing this to box him in, to remind AARP members that he made those commitments.

If he ever looks like he's going to violate those commitments, the AARP members will be all over him like bark on a tree. And if he actually violates those commitments, he'll lose millions of votes.

[Danmel]

2. But they are running ads praising Trump on social security and Medicare

I asked for my membership money back.
What do they expect from Trump? Why would they praise him?
No discount is worth supporting an organization that supports Trump.

[Wounded Bear]

3. I'm not sure that is the case...

the ads actually show Trump saying he would keep Medicare and SS. I think the ad is to convince congresscritters to hold the line on any changes to the programs.

YMMV, of course.

[greymattermom]

9. That's not exactly it

they know that Trump lies all the time, and they want this version of what Trump has said to be remembered. Just like talk radio. Rinse, repeat.

[theglammistress]

10. Bingo

Those ads are really trolling.

[slumcamper]

12. Take another look, my friend.

The AARP is NOT your enemy any more that the Republicons would have you believe the government is your enemy.

The AARP ad is a tantamount to a line in the sand, using Trump's own words (promise) as a shield against what it anticipated would be extreme overreach by Congressional Refucks. While reminding us all, the ad speaks directly to ACA beneficiaries who voted for Trump and are about to get shafted.

Whether they're smart enough to realize they bought a pig in the poke is another questions. But the AARP ad is trying to lead those horses to water.

Calm down. You don't need your money back. Sheeeesh...

[SharonAnn]

34. They are trying to be sure that he stands behind his stated commitments.

They don't trust him so they're trying to box him in so that it will be really hard for him to change his mind without losing millions of votes.

[beachbum bob]

4. too many retired seniors voted for trump so its karma I am afraid ....wtf did they think was

going to happen with medicare...social security...? Its all under fire by conservatives who see a way to rid america of "socialism"...and let people die in the streets like they deserve

[slumcamper]

13. They DIDN'T think. n/t

[Wellstone ruled]

29. Oh I know,

as a Senior myself,this is how my neighborhood of fellow Seniors voted. Four for Hillary,almost two hundred for Numb Nuts Trump.

After today,oh my,HE CAN'T TAKE MY MEDICARE!!!!!! Told you so a smiled as I walked away. That was about two hours ago.

[Aristus]

5. What was the election breakdown for AARP members?

How many for Hillary?

How many for you-know-who?

If the AARP broke for Trump, I can only shake my head sadly...

[Hoyt]

6. Obamacare was monumental legislation. If not enacted, we would not be discussing replacement, BUT

one of the problems with the ACA was that younger people were paying more than older people relative to health care usage. I think that was a mistake, assuring a lot of younger people would oppose ACA (but I get it might have been necessary to get something enacted). Since the GOP prefers continuing this charade of using private insurers, Congress should consider ensuring adequate subsidies. But, they won't if they continue with this flat rate subsidy that everyone gets that will likely be eaten up in the first year of premium increases.

[wordpix]

24. "younger people paying more than older people:" link pls. you're being simplistic

I am very familiar with the ACA as it saved my life, both health-wise and financially. I still have my home.

Young people can buy catastrophic insurance and that's allegedly cheaper than what we older folks buy. When I was on ACA, I had a subsidy but my share was still $550/mo. b/c I bought the best plan I could. I just had a cancer diagnosis the previous month, my private insurer cut me off due to my pre-existing cond., I needed a major operation, and ACA saved me.

The main prob with ACA is the high cost of med care. I was charged $500/doc visit when the doc saw me 5 or 10 mins. I had a $40K charge for ONE round of chemo (decades-old, conventional, nothing new) and found an NIH site that said this chemo's real cost + admin. = $3600. I needed 12 rounds of chemo. An MRI costs $1500-$2000 each (one takes about 1/2 hr.). The prices are out of sight and we're not allowed to import drugs from other countries, thanks to Big US Pharma, the R Congress' puppetmaster.

[Hoyt]

33. The actuarial difference in expenditures is more than the 3 to 1 ratio allowed under ACA. That loads

That loads premiums disproportionately on the young which I do not think is really fair. My solution would be for government to subsidize the disproportionate part. Until we get GOP to enact that or elect Democrats, it's still not fair to load up young people with that, and I'm an old guy.

That discrepancy exists whether chemo is $40K or $899. But, I fully understand what you are saying. Glad you are a survivor.

[bucolic_frolic]

7. They will not be happy until common folk die stone cold broke

GWB extended lookback periods for Medicare nursing home care

Their goal is to strip families of income streams and assets

and put it in the pockets of billionaires and corporations

[slumcamper]

14. Agree. But we outnumber them and have matches...

[Bernardo de La Paz]

8. It's DonTcare. . . . nt

[moonscape]

35. Oh good one! n/t

[Azathoth]

11. The 55+ demographic voted for Trump overwhelmingly

They're like conservative Catholics: the Church is infallible just as long as it agrees with their political opinions. The AARP's objections will be ignored.

[slumcamper]

16. "...is the opium of the mind."

[Rex]

15. Big business wants to price gouge and bought enough of Congress to do it.

We should just look at Republicans as representatives of Wall Street. They are the masters of fraud.

[slumcamper]

17. TRUMP FOR PRISON 2017

[Rex]

18. [phone]

[taught_me_patience]

19. Guess what old people... Reap what you sow

The ACA was a gift to you idiots at the expense of younger people. They delivered Trump upon us so I have zero sympathy if their premiums skyrocket.

[Omaha Steve]

21. Marta and I are 60 and AARP members

We voted for Hillary.

[Stinky The Clown]

31. Watch it with that broad brush.

Some of us old idiots were active, voting liberals before you were born.

[nini]

36. Whatever

Many of us have fighting for things you take for granted since before you were born.

[McCamy Taylor]

20. Uh oh! The GOP is screwed. AARP is part of their base that votes.

Unless they repeal this part pronto OR they cancel the midterms in 2018, I am going to go on record as saying that both houses are going to flip, thanks to the AARP voter backlash.

Is the government being run by morons?

[mainer]

22. Don't knock AARP. They were Obamacare supporters

And rather progressive when it comes to health care issues.

[Ace Rothstein]

23. Please call it Republicare.

It needs to be tied to the entire party.

[wordpix]

25. Good one, I'll def use it

[GP6971]

26. As they should be. n/t

[Miles Archer]

27. Older Americans in red made in China MAGA hats who didn't read the fine print before voting.

AARP and its allies should have "bombarded congressional offices with objections" well before November.

There are NO surprises here, NOTHING new. Ryan's agenda has been clear through the Primaries and the General Election.

And NOW AARP is "ticked off."

That's just super.

[guillaumeb]

28. Racist old white people who voted for Trump,

you just received your reward for your uninformed vote. Enjoy it and wait until Ryan comes after your Social Security and Medicare.

[Lifelong Protester]

30. Are all "OLD WHITE PEOPLE" and AARPers

In with HWWNBN?
I am over 60, an AARPer and voted for Hillary.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

32. As well they should be

As one who'll be on Medicare in about five years I'm concerned. I paid into it my whole life.

I don't want to have to pay more so some fat useless fuckhead like Drumpf can get a tax cut.