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yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:31 PM Mar 2017

Chicago Tribune goes there: "The constitutional remedy for presidential misconduct is impeachment."

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/commentary/ct-trump-impeachment-wiretapping-20170306-story.html

But when President Trump accuses Obama of an act that would have been impeachable and possibly criminal, that's something much more serious than libel. If it isn't true or provable, it's misconduct by the highest official of the executive branch.

How is such misconduct by an official to be addressed? There's a common-law tort of malicious prosecution, but that probably doesn't apply when the government official has no intention to prosecute.

The answer is that the constitutional remedy for presidential misconduct is impeachment.
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Chicago Tribune goes there: "The constitutional remedy for presidential misconduct is impeachment." (Original Post) yellowcanine Mar 2017 OP
Unfortunately that won't happen still_one Mar 2017 #1
Not yet. tRump is not toxic enough to Republicons, but he will be before long. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2017 #8
Also, it's not the Chicago Tribune. It's a syndicated columnist. RedWedge Mar 2017 #2
It's way past time for Twitter to ban @realDonaldTrump. Initech Mar 2017 #3
Disagree. He is OUR best weapon. marybourg Mar 2017 #5
Well he'd still tweet from the POTUS account, he wouldn't be able to resist LiberalLovinLug Mar 2017 #17
I agree.. he's his own worst enemy. I just can't even stand to Cha Mar 2017 #23
I agree, however, Twitter will never do that to Twitler.. red dog 1 Mar 2017 #12
This needs to be repeated by every pundit. AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #4
Presidential Malpractice (NT) The Wizard Mar 2017 #6
The GOP will do SFA against scrotus BSdetect Mar 2017 #7
He should be impeached for the high crime of making up shit about the former malaise Mar 2017 #9
+ 1 red dog 1 Mar 2017 #10
There is no offense grave enough to get the Republican House to impeach--except one: DFW Mar 2017 #11
You make a good point.. red dog 1 Mar 2017 #14
True - but then, we'd be left with that medieval John Bircher, Pence. tenorly Mar 2017 #13
A VP Taking Over For A President Gone In Disgrace Has NO Capital ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #20
You're right - but these are not normal times. tenorly Mar 2017 #22
Not Seeing It ProfessorGAC Mar 2017 #25
If only ... lillypaddle Mar 2017 #15
Kick for exposure! red dog 1 Mar 2017 #16
+1,000 malaise Mar 2017 #19
Not anytime soon. Republicans need somebody (with small hands) to sign their bills. dalton99a Mar 2017 #18
I'm glad someone's looking out for us. ffr Mar 2017 #21
I am actually surprised the Trib published this. Exilednight Mar 2017 #24
What a delema about 60% of us think he is crazy and should be doc03 Mar 2017 #26
I don't honestly believe the KGOP will ever impeach 45 neeksgeek Mar 2017 #27
Alas, one-party-rule subverts this logical consequence... VOX Mar 2017 #28

Initech

(100,103 posts)
3. It's way past time for Twitter to ban @realDonaldTrump.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:48 PM
Mar 2017

He can use the official, monitored @POTUS account if he wants to get his fix.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
17. Well he'd still tweet from the POTUS account, he wouldn't be able to resist
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:55 PM
Mar 2017

But what it would be would be a symbolic and powerful statement.

Doesn't Twitter have rules involving hate speech and sedition?

red dog 1

(27,856 posts)
12. I agree, however, Twitter will never do that to Twitler..
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:14 PM
Mar 2017

(but it sure would be nice if they did, wouldn't it?)

BSdetect

(8,999 posts)
7. The GOP will do SFA against scrotus
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 03:25 PM
Mar 2017

He could start a nuclear war and it ill be too late but anything short of that will incur nothing more than their inertia.

DFW

(54,437 posts)
11. There is no offense grave enough to get the Republican House to impeach--except one:
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:10 PM
Mar 2017

The only offense Trump could commit that would cause the House Judiciary committee to start impeachment proceedings would be to offend so many Republican voters as to endanger the ability of the Republicans to maintain their House majority even with their gerrymandered districts.

If and when the House Republicans should perceive Trump to be a danger to them, they would impeach him for littering on the White House lawn, if that is all they could come up with. Otherwise, he could order a nuclear strike on Boston, and they'd find a way to rationalize it.

red dog 1

(27,856 posts)
14. You make a good point..
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:38 PM
Mar 2017

It's too bad that no GOP House leader has the courage it would take to even suggest impeachment.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
13. True - but then, we'd be left with that medieval John Bircher, Pence.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:38 PM
Mar 2017

I'd rather be stuck with Trump for the remainder of his term - his one term.

ProfessorGAC

(65,183 posts)
20. A VP Taking Over For A President Gone In Disgrace Has NO Capital
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:03 PM
Mar 2017

They don't have a mandate now. They have zilch under a president Pence.

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
22. You're right - but these are not normal times.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:27 PM
Mar 2017

Pence would have GOP majorities in both houses, and while a few Republicans might object to the most extreme proposals, the fascist majority dominating the GOP in Congress would push very hard to pass Pence's far-right, fundamentalist agenda.

There'd be none of the contrition we saw with Jerry Ford, who was a gentleman and a moderate besides (which these people are anything but).

ProfessorGAC

(65,183 posts)
25. Not Seeing It
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:00 AM
Mar 2017

Public opinion, aside from the 24% who actually voted for that buffoon, would swing heavily against radicalism in Congress. They would not be as emboldened and the dems could take their positions to a disgusted american public. I think the impact of such an event is more positive than you suggest.

red dog 1

(27,856 posts)
16. Kick for exposure!
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:52 PM
Mar 2017

Last paragraph in the Tribune piece sums it up well:
"Given how great the executive's power is, accusations by the president can't be treated asymmetrically...If the alleged action would be impeachable if true, so must be the allegation if false...Anything else would give the president the power to distort democracy by calling his opponents criminals without ever having to prove it."

dalton99a

(81,590 posts)
18. Not anytime soon. Republicans need somebody (with small hands) to sign their bills.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 04:58 PM
Mar 2017

Besides, they're terrified of death threats from his cult.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
21. I'm glad someone's looking out for us.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 05:06 PM
Mar 2017

Because the republicans sure as hell aren't.

Makes me wonder if they think life on Earth is in its last dying days? Hording all the wealth and natural resources to them and their kind. All the rest of you go die off in some other country or here under no health care we just stripped away from you.

doc03

(35,378 posts)
26. What a delema about 60% of us think he is crazy and should be
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 09:09 AM
Mar 2017

impeached and 40% think he walks on water. I don't think there is anything he can do that will change their minds.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
27. I don't honestly believe the KGOP will ever impeach 45
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 11:16 AM
Mar 2017

He's already gone waaaay off the rails of legitimate presidential behavior and most of them either stand mute or cheer him on.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
28. Alas, one-party-rule subverts this logical consequence...
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 04:30 PM
Mar 2017

With the KGOP in charge of all branches of government (soon to add the judicial branch), any logical step towards fairness, justice, conscientiousness, equality and basic compassion is blocked by partisan ideology.

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