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Posted without comment (Original Post) n2doc Mar 2017 OP
There was a time... Blanks Mar 2017 #1
+ 100 nt iluvtennis Mar 2017 #26
Great cartoon Gothmog Mar 2017 #2
Because your comment at JPR on this same cartoon wouldn't go over well here? seaglass Mar 2017 #3
thanks for letting us heaven05 Mar 2017 #6
"closet right-wingers" truebluegreen Mar 2017 #9
"closet rightwingers" heaven05 Mar 2017 #20
Gee, I guess I was objecting to the idea that truebluegreen Mar 2017 #24
not necessarily true heaven05 Mar 2017 #32
Please define "closet rightwingers". BTW, (upon reflection) you might find this term interesting... xocet Mar 2017 #18
send this heaven05 Mar 2017 #22
Amazing... n/t xocet Mar 2017 #23
IKR? truebluegreen Mar 2017 #25
thank you heaven05 Mar 2017 #27
btw, term is "free rein." truebluegreen Mar 2017 #28
oh, I see that heaven05 Mar 2017 #33
A free reigning triumvirate. Riiiight. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #38
oh no you are right heaven05 Mar 2017 #40
Heh, figures. Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #10
Hard to believe some folks who spend so much time here JTFrog Mar 2017 #35
.... LexVegas Mar 2017 #37
To quote my FIL: "I'm against it! Now, what's your question?" n Xipe Totec Mar 2017 #4
bout right, yet sadder now heaven05 Mar 2017 #5
Yeah. That's how their parents treated them. tenorly Mar 2017 #7
Meaning what? WinkyDink Mar 2017 #12
Meaning that the guy in the GOP stand sounds just like many GOP parents. tenorly Mar 2017 #30
??? (nt) ehrnst Mar 2017 #15
See comment above. tenorly Mar 2017 #31
They left the follow-up caption out, where she votes in the next election for the GOP candidate ffr Mar 2017 #8
Or she stays home with the other 94 million who didn't vote last time n/t n2doc Mar 2017 #16
But you posted on another board with comment, didn't you? nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #11
Why shoud he post a comment Curmudgeoness Mar 2017 #39
What is the source of your health coverage? Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #13
Nor will they be shipped south without their children. Jakes Progress Mar 2017 #17
+1000 Starry Messenger Mar 2017 #29
Milquetoastery as a cure for the batshit insane. HughBeaumont Mar 2017 #14
Anarcho-capitalists ... Fantastic Anarchist Mar 2017 #19
Oh, it's a total logical bollocks. HughBeaumont Mar 2017 #34
Here we go again, a circular firing squad elmac Mar 2017 #21
Toon fail Hekate Mar 2017 #36
What's the message in the portrayal of PDittie Mar 2017 #41

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
1. There was a time...
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 09:49 AM
Mar 2017

When both parties stood for particular things and it was a philosophical difference.

Now that we have Fox News, Rush etc. The republicans don't even need an agenda. If the democrats are doing it, it's wrong, if the republicans are doing it, it's right.

Even if it's the same action.

seaglass

(8,173 posts)
3. Because your comment at JPR on this same cartoon wouldn't go over well here?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 09:51 AM
Mar 2017

"Why we need a viable 3rd party in the USA, Illustrated"

Be brave.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
6. thanks for letting us
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:00 AM
Mar 2017

Last edited Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:55 PM - Edit history (1)

know where this came from and about questionable "comments" of poster. JPR really does allow our closet rightwingers free reign on edit: as in ideologically sucking up to the new rulers of ameriKKKa reigning/rein as in freedom...gotcha. Have a good one

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
20. "closet rightwingers"
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:25 PM
Mar 2017

I heard it the other day in a lecture on rightwing moles posing as progressives and liberals but subtly changing the argument around to the the current RACIST, FASCIST point of view and defending it. I know EXACTLY what it means!!!!!!!!!!!! I am everywhere in this academic bubble I live in listening to a lot of arguments to gain ammunition for the war I am in.

Now you explain to me what you think I meant.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
24. Gee, I guess I was objecting to the idea that
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:40 PM
Mar 2017

that everyone who doesn't wholehearted support the Democratic Party must be a closet rightwinger.

Seems to me that simplistic framing is in fact common to the right wing ("with us or agin' us!). But you heard it the other day in a lecture so I guess it must be true.


 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
32. not necessarily true
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:50 PM
Mar 2017

but well worth looking into. I deemed it so. Us vs them, all RW/RC thinking vs liberal/progressive thinking. Just like those hurling the line..."give the trumpvoter a break, it's much more complicated than making ameriKKKa white again". No it isn't. Pretty simple actually. And while I have to put up with RC thinkers in my Party. I DO NOT have to like them or trust them. As long as they vote for inclusivity, justice and liberty for all...that's all I can expect. Have a good one.... backatcha

xocet

(3,872 posts)
18. Please define "closet rightwingers". BTW, (upon reflection) you might find this term interesting...
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:16 PM
Mar 2017
ЗАМПОЛИ́Т, -а, муж. Сокращение в советской армии: заместитель командира по политической части.

http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/ogegova/62798
 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
22. send this
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:26 PM
Mar 2017

to someone who might understand your point of view.... and YOU WON'T embarrass me in my not understanding this ....whatever it says or explains. YEAH, CLOSET RIGHTWINGER posing as a goddamn progressive/liberal!!!! That's plain english if you didn't know.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
27. thank you
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:41 PM
Mar 2017

Last edited Tue Mar 7, 2017, 03:23 PM - Edit history (1)

although I get your intent. You are transparent....but what's to expect from...well you get the idea maybe... Sad that superior thinkers these days are not so superior in an obviously ........well you being a superior thinker, you know what I mean. Have a good one.ON EDIT: I plan to take copies of this to my local university and it's very competent language department-looks like eastern european writing of some type and I have friends that own a very eclectic, independent, progressive bookstore who will put me on the right path in understanding this superior thinking. Thanks glad to have to learn something new. Keep this 69 year old mind working, you have....

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
33. oh, I see that
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:52 PM
Mar 2017

we have a terrible triumvirate reigning/ruling, not leading now....I don't need your correction...since you missed my point. Have a good one.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
40. oh no you are right
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 10:00 PM
Mar 2017

I get it wrong sometimes since I am not perfect.....but close to it...I think....

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
35. Hard to believe some folks who spend so much time here
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 01:50 PM
Mar 2017

also spend their time undermining Democrats elsewhere on the internet.

OP left one small clue within the thread, but your huge reveal makes it all perfectly clear now. Thank you!



tenorly

(2,037 posts)
7. Yeah. That's how their parents treated them.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:21 AM
Mar 2017

But the rest of us shouldn't have to pay for their rotten childhoods (though we are, in fact).

tenorly

(2,037 posts)
30. Meaning that the guy in the GOP stand sounds just like many GOP parents.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:47 PM
Mar 2017

Which, unfortunately for us all, ends up being a big reason we have so many misanthropes who vote Republican.

ffr

(22,671 posts)
8. They left the follow-up caption out, where she votes in the next election for the GOP candidate
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:26 AM
Mar 2017

Because the democrats didn't do enough or didn't have a candidate that was exciting enough or fell for fake news damning the democratic candidate.

Call her Jane Hoodwink.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
13. What is the source of your health coverage?
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:33 AM
Mar 2017

I'll bet cash none of the smug pups on jpr will have their lifestyles threatened in the slightest.

Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
17. Nor will they be shipped south without their children.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:11 PM
Mar 2017

Nor care if we frack Yellowstone.

They are the most unthinking and/or thoughtless people I know. Self-serving, self-righteous, selfish. Notice the common word in all those descriptions.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
14. Milquetoastery as a cure for the batshit insane.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 11:40 AM
Mar 2017

And as for third parties . . . . .

One thinks anarcho-capitalists have some good points.

The other, while having some good ideas, is led by a Putin inner circle whack-a-loon.

Sorry, but the Democratic Party really needs to get on board with Universal Health Care and FAST. If you can pay for war and wealthy people, you can pay for health. "But we don't . . . but we can't . . . but America is . . . " FUCK OFF with that shit. This is the 21st Century. ACT LIKE IT.

Fantastic Anarchist

(7,309 posts)
19. Anarcho-capitalists ...
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 12:17 PM
Mar 2017

Uggggh ... they don't realize their own inherent contradiction. Anarchists believe in a non-hierarchical, classless, stateless society. Anarcho-capitalists believe in unbridled capitalism (read: not a true and fair free-market), which is antithetical to anarchism. They are trying to bastardize the term which has its origins in the original socialist movement (the non-Marxist or non-state form of socialism).

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
34. Oh, it's a total logical bollocks.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 01:22 PM
Mar 2017

The only thing "anarchy" they want is for "ME ME ME" to run everything . . . including, scarily enough, police and defense. Also, they don't want any commie notion of sharing even one red cent.

It's a logical hilarity . . . kind of like Libertarianism itself.

Hekate

(90,798 posts)
36. Toon fail
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:09 PM
Mar 2017


How are Dems to move money from one pot to another in the budget without a whacking great majority in Congress? How in gods' name does that wishlist get fulfilled? Even Amazon.com wants a credit card number.

Hillary -- and the ideas she espoused in great detail to anyone who would listen or read -- got 3 million more votes than the Trojan Horse, and yet here we are.

No wonder the guy at the Dem booth looks discouraged. He's grown old and tired trying to do the right thing. Does he look rich and entitled to you?

PDittie

(8,322 posts)
41. What's the message in the portrayal of
Wed Mar 8, 2017, 08:13 AM
Mar 2017

the "Democrat" as old, white, male, and fatigued, while the "Republican" is the same except for the exhausted part? Passivity replaced with high aggression and agitation?

The message we all get, the one the GOP regularly sends to women who dare speak up on their own behalf -- or for a better world -- is clear but I'm not sure the poor lady trembling back over to the slouchy, condescending Dem is the outreach effort the party would wish to have shown. Even in satire.

Course it's just a toon; maybe shouldn't read too much into it.

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