Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 09:36 PM Mar 2017

Trump is incredibly p*ssed off no one believes his Obama wiretaps story, says adviser

Trump is incredibly ‘p*ssed off’ no one believes his Obama ‘wiretaps’ story, says adviser



http://www.rawstory.com/2017/03/trump-is-incredibly-pssed-off-no-one-believes-his-obama-wiretaps-story-says-adviser/

TheHill.com reported that Newsmax.com CEO Christopher Ruddy published an essay on Sunday attacking Democratic Sen. Chuck Schumer (NY) and praising his boss’ performance through a week rocked by major revelations regarding Trump and his staff’s communications with agents of the Russian government during the 2016 campaign and White House transition.

“I’ve been watching Chuck Todd’s ‘Meet the Press’ as I write this. There is actually little talk about this unprecedented wire-tapping and even less worry over it,” wrote Ruddy.

On Sunday morning, former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper told “Meet the Press” emphatically that the wiretapping does not exist. It never happened, he said, “There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president-elect at the time as a candidate or against his campaign.”

Ruddy said, “I spoke with the President twice yesterday about the wiretap story. I haven’t seen him this p*ssed off in a long time. When I mentioned Obama ‘denials’ about the wiretaps, he shot back: ‘This will be investigated, it will all come out. I will be proven right.’”

79 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Trump is incredibly p*ssed off no one believes his Obama wiretaps story, says adviser (Original Post) Miles Archer Mar 2017 OP
Just like the birther shit malaise Mar 2017 #1
So everyone is supposed to go along with his lies? HipChick Mar 2017 #7
Apparently malaise Mar 2017 #10
More like an infomercial for the latest ... dchill Mar 2017 #31
Haven't you heard? The pee pee pope is infallible. hunter Mar 2017 #69
The little boy who cried "Trump!" no_hypocrisy Mar 2017 #2
Good! cilla4progress Mar 2017 #3
A straight jacket also. Doreen Mar 2017 #41
drumph is cray cray...nt wcmagumba Mar 2017 #4
Trump, is in meltdown mode. n/t RKP5637 Mar 2017 #5
Paranoid shenmue Mar 2017 #6
Not even comey! Cha Mar 2017 #8
Are we following this line of thinking? Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #42
Thank you for all those scenarios I hadn't thought of, Cha Mar 2017 #47
Maybe the shithead needs to as Mark Levin where he got the story Warpy Mar 2017 #9
Who ate the strawberries? nt Kahuna7 Mar 2017 #11
Really. Cha Mar 2017 #13
I love the Obama picture with an earbud up to his ear. NBachers Mar 2017 #27
I know, right. Cha Mar 2017 #38
Obama listening to 45's conversations GP6971 Mar 2017 #28
LOL that's great. ohheckyeah Mar 2017 #46
So shit head is making up the whole thing? Cha Mar 2017 #12
I'm sure he's willing himself to believe something... dchill Mar 2017 #34
Thanks for that, dchill.. It's so unreal Cha Mar 2017 #37
Bingo. OnDoutside Mar 2017 #50
It was always said PBO plays 3D chess... SledDriver Mar 2017 #55
sound like hitler heaven05 Mar 2017 #14
Yes that's what I'm thinking too. neeksgeek Mar 2017 #17
Meth can do that to a person Kber Mar 2017 #20
I honestly think it's Ritalin. dchill Mar 2017 #36
Like Hitler In His Bunker CitizenZero Mar 2017 #29
That's why I have never advocated for Ilsa Mar 2017 #58
yep heaven05 Mar 2017 #59
That is exactly what sammythecat Mar 2017 #32
An early example of Fake News klook Mar 2017 #62
The excerpt's last paragraph is chilling. Stinky The Clown Mar 2017 #15
The man is just ... neeksgeek Mar 2017 #16
Trumpy and his wonderful hotel may be wiretapped, but not by Obama. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #45
Zero credibility C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #18
"Proven right"? There is already voluminous evidence that he is a fine purveyor of fake news. dalton99a Mar 2017 #19
Oh, noes! He's not getting the respect he demands. Solly Mack Mar 2017 #21
the networks/cable news folks will put the president on tv with little notice..present your evidence spanone Mar 2017 #22
Bring it Blue Owl Mar 2017 #23
Right after the "5 million illegals voted for Hillary" investigation has concluded. bullwinkle428 Mar 2017 #24
And thousands of NJ Muslims danced in the streets during 9/11 attack. oasis Mar 2017 #25
Do not forget the bus loads of people crossing state lines to vote for Hillary. Doreen Mar 2017 #43
"The New Hamphire Voting Massacre". oasis Mar 2017 #61
So, will he get even more pissed off when he hears Dir. Comey state positively there were NO napi21 Mar 2017 #26
Seriously? Lotusflower70 Mar 2017 #30
Somewhere in the J_William_Ryan Mar 2017 #33
Paranoia will destroy ya, but JenniferJuniper Mar 2017 #35
sadly, almost all of the Cheeto Horde believes this sack of shit lie The Polack MSgt Mar 2017 #64
This is right up there with trump's investigation of Obama's birth certificate that never produced manicraven Mar 2017 #39
I was thinking dementia too. Corgigal Mar 2017 #73
Reminds me of the children's story about the little boy who cried wolf... manicraven Mar 2017 #40
I was thinking the same thing. Doreen Mar 2017 #44
Well, golly gee. Someone who lies... 3catwoman3 Mar 2017 #48
because this asswipe MFM008 Mar 2017 #49
More projection? Maybe Trump KNOWS he has been wiretapped - when he was in his Russian hotel Doodley Mar 2017 #51
So a RW newsite advisor was the tattle-tailer on Trump. te he. Keep talking Ruddy!! riversedge Mar 2017 #52
He was tapped alright. They are called the kgb. The Russians AgadorSparticus Mar 2017 #53
The Feds tapped the Russians' phones, and Trump got caught FakeNoose Mar 2017 #65
This is my first impression, too; his narcissism may be coming out full force. King_Klonopin Mar 2017 #74
I think Kellyanne Conway is leaking like a sieve. There is one innocuous on-the-record Tanuki Mar 2017 #54
I invision a tiny Trump with his nocalflea Mar 2017 #56
Has he ever heard the story of the boy who cried "wolf?" Vinca Mar 2017 #57
Hopefully Sheriff Joe and his team of investigators are finished in Hawaii DefenseLawyer Mar 2017 #60
Still waiting for that birth zentrum Mar 2017 #63
Just keep pissing him off every day, lagomorph777 Mar 2017 #66
Trump is shit-eating crazy! chwaliszewski Mar 2017 #67
Newsmax. Really? murielm99 Mar 2017 #68
Congress needs to do something about this guy. He's gone off the edge. nt Honeycombe8 Mar 2017 #70
Trump is known to create his own reality. Beacool Mar 2017 #71
foil bora13 Mar 2017 #72
You know why most of think you are lying Donnie? Because as the President you have the power cstanleytech Mar 2017 #75
Clapper's denial is slippery. Atman Mar 2017 #76
Never forget that Ruddy spent years chasing the Vince Foster story DeminPennswoods Mar 2017 #77
Trump might not be happy with Ruddy's paper's 2016 report of his meeting with the Russian Ambassador More_Cowbell Mar 2017 #78
The bubble is about to burst. Marcuse Mar 2017 #79

dchill

(38,512 posts)
31. More like an infomercial for the latest ...
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:01 AM
Mar 2017

Miracle No-Stick Frying Pan. Of course, it's really thin and warpy. And, of course, everything sticks to it.

But EVERYONE should CALL NOW! Free Trump Steaks for the first 1.5 million callers!

hunter

(38,322 posts)
69. Haven't you heard? The pee pee pope is infallible.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 05:10 PM
Mar 2017

God speaks to us through him.

(So say the preachers of the Trump churches.)

Eyeball_Kid

(7,433 posts)
42. Are we following this line of thinking?
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 02:01 AM
Mar 2017

Comey asks the DOJ to reject Trumpy's wiretapping claim.

This is bizarre on its face. How is it in Comey's best interests to contact the DOJ and request that they reject Trumpy's claim?

That the DOJ REFUSED to reject the claim can mean a couple of things.

1. The investigation conducted by factions of the FBI are counterintelligence concerns that will NOT be discussed by anyone.
2. There WAS or IS a wiretapping warrant in effect, and that it was a counterintelligence concern, which means that even Comey may not know what's happening.
3. Comey knows that Trumpy's phones and other communications devices were/are tapped, but is providing cover for the DOJ by getting them to refuse to comment.
4. However this bends out, none of it gives Trumpy the satisfaction he thinks he deserves. No one gives him credibility. He's being hung out to dry.

Cha

(297,446 posts)
47. Thank you for all those scenarios I hadn't thought of,
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 02:24 AM
Mar 2017
Eyeball_Kid

That the DOJ REFUSED to reject the claim can mean a couple of things.

1. The investigation conducted by factions of the FBI are counterintelligence concerns that will NOT be discussed by anyone.
2. There WAS or IS a wiretapping warrant in effect, and that it was a counterintelligence concern, which means that even Comey may not know what's happening.
3. Comey knows that Trumpy's phones and other communications devices were/are tapped, but is providing cover for the DOJ by getting them to refuse to comment.
4. However this bends out, none of it gives Trumpy the satisfaction he thinks he deserves. No one gives him credibility. He's being hung out to dry.

It's totally bizarre including Comey.. hopefully we'll get to learn what all is going on behind the scenes someday.. soon.

Warpy

(111,305 posts)
9. Maybe the shithead needs to as Mark Levin where he got the story
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 09:43 PM
Mar 2017

That's where the investigation needs to start, Dumbass.

dchill

(38,512 posts)
34. I'm sure he's willing himself to believe something...
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:08 AM
Mar 2017

That longtime loon Mark Levin pulled out of his ass, which longtime bull-sheet Breitbart "published." It's the only place Trump can find something that feeds his paranoid mind-history.

And it pisses him off that everyone else can't see the stark, brilliant truth of it.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
14. sound like hitler
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 09:59 PM
Mar 2017

at the end of WW2 and all his imaginary armies he was moving around to counter the armies facing him on two fronts. This boy-potus is getting seriously dangerous in a mentally ill/deranged sort of way.

dchill

(38,512 posts)
36. I honestly think it's Ritalin.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:13 AM
Mar 2017

Or Adderal. Either way, ground up and snorted, it's a lot like meth - or cocaine. Also produces the runny nose sniffing effect that some claim to have observed. Wink.

CitizenZero

(536 posts)
29. Like Hitler In His Bunker
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 12:54 AM
Mar 2017

You are exactly right. Trump's paranoia is reminiscent of Hitler, Mussolini, Stalin. The type of personality that is drawn to authoritarianism tends to be insecure and paranoid. Such people are always dangerous, especially when their back is up against the wall and their "authority" is threatened or challenged.

It is clear that Trump is not fully in touch with reality. His Twitter account is exhibit A. I think that we are lucky that Trump still uses Twitter. It shows how unhinged he really is, and how no one is really in control at the White House. The incompetence level in the Trump White House is so high that it is a clear and present danger to our National Security. They need to be thrown out of office. 2018 and 2020 should be days of reckoning for these Anti-American Clowns.

Impeach, Oppose, Resist.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
58. That's why I have never advocated for
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 09:06 AM
Mar 2017

the twitter account to be shut down. It is evidence of his paranoid irrational thinking.

sammythecat

(3,568 posts)
32. That is exactly what
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:03 AM
Mar 2017

first came to mind when I read this. "seriously dangerous in a mentally ill/deranged sort of way" is a great description. He really sounds kinda nuts.

Stinky The Clown

(67,816 posts)
15. The excerpt's last paragraph is chilling.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 10:04 PM
Mar 2017
Ruddy said, “I spoke with the President twice yesterday about the wiretap story. I haven’t seen him this p*ssed off in a long time. When I mentioned Obama ‘denials’ about the wiretaps, he shot back: ‘This will be investigated, it will all come out. I will be proven right.’


That is the way of a delusional human. Not angry. Delusional. in HIS MIND the wiretap happened.

Roll that thought around for a bit and see how it feels.

The President.

Delusional.

In an obvious way.

"I will be proven right." On what is factually wrong.

neeksgeek

(1,214 posts)
16. The man is just ...
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 10:11 PM
Mar 2017

Unreal. Unbelievable. Insane even comes to mind.

Seriously, he sounds absolutely insane.

"I will be proven right!" WTF?

Eyeball_Kid

(7,433 posts)
45. Trumpy and his wonderful hotel may be wiretapped, but not by Obama.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 02:06 AM
Mar 2017

By the DOJ? Maybe.

By the FBI? Maybe.

Investigators for counterintelligence issues do NOT inform the subjects of their investigations if national security is at risk.

spanone

(135,855 posts)
22. the networks/cable news folks will put the president on tv with little notice..present your evidence
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 11:53 PM
Mar 2017

c'mon don....do your schtick!

lay out your proof.

oasis

(49,395 posts)
25. And thousands of NJ Muslims danced in the streets during 9/11 attack.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 12:46 AM
Mar 2017

This boy's addicted to whoppers.

napi21

(45,806 posts)
26. So, will he get even more pissed off when he hears Dir. Comey state positively there were NO
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 12:50 AM
Mar 2017

wiretaps in Trump Towers! I hope he gets sooo damn angered that he QUITS!

Lotusflower70

(3,077 posts)
30. Seriously?
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 12:57 AM
Mar 2017

A President that wasn't involved in scandal over 8 years in office or the Asshat-in-chief that can't seem to get out of scandals. Who would you believe? It's a no-brainer. You don't believe him because he says it's true. There is no proof. Trump is fucking batshit. He could face a defamation of character lawsuit. Libel and slander are definitely in play. I don't believe a word he says and I never will. I don't trust him. This is just another distraction. He hates President Obama even though the majority love him. Probably because the majority love him.

J_William_Ryan

(1,755 posts)
33. Somewhere in the
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:04 AM
Mar 2017

rat’s nest that is Trump’s brain, he realizes that a majority of the American people oppose him, that a majority of the voters did not vote for him, and that his hateful, bigoted, wrongheaded agenda is not supported by a majority of Americans, rendering Trump defensive, paranoid, and delusional.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
35. Paranoia will destroy ya, but
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:09 AM
Mar 2017

seriously, no one believes this. No one.

Dying to see where he tries to go with this now, though.

The Polack MSgt

(13,191 posts)
64. sadly, almost all of the Cheeto Horde believes this sack of shit lie
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 03:31 PM
Mar 2017

Not only believes it - They believe this accusation kills all the "Fake News" regarding Russian contacts with 45 and his staff.

"Wait till we get the facts about Hussein Obama out in public", "Liberals have all just been destroyed" et cetera, et fucking cetera

manicraven

(901 posts)
39. This is right up there with trump's investigation of Obama's birth certificate that never produced
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 01:45 AM
Mar 2017

anything whatsoever, or his investigation into millions who supposedly voted illegally for Hillary, or how he was going to hold a press conference regarding Melania's immigration in two weeks that never happened, or how he would produce his tax returns once the supposed audit was completed....

Isn't this more than narcissism? What is this some psychosis that includes paranoia? Maybe he has early dementia? He seems to believe his own lies.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
73. I was thinking dementia too.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 01:51 AM
Mar 2017

I don't believe it's early, he's in his mid 70s. I wonder if his kids know but don't care enough about him to protect him (and us) from himself.

3catwoman3

(24,023 posts)
48. Well, golly gee. Someone who lies...
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 02:36 AM
Mar 2017

...all the time is surprised that people don't believe him. Imagine that.

MFM008

(19,818 posts)
49. because this asswipe
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 02:42 AM
Mar 2017

has gotten away with it every time, like a 2 year old who's tantrum finally doesn't work.

AgadorSparticus

(7,963 posts)
53. He was tapped alright. They are called the kgb. The Russians
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 06:57 AM
Mar 2017

Wanted to make sure their kompromat stayed in line. Rachel Maddow did an incredible segment on this.

FakeNoose

(32,683 posts)
65. The Feds tapped the Russians' phones, and Trump got caught
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 03:40 PM
Mar 2017

When is Donny-boy going to figure this out?

The only way he got recorded was when he spoke to the Russians - WHOSE LINES HAVE BEEN TAPPED.
You don't want to get recorded - OK don't speak to the Russians. Problem solved.

On the other hand, we can't equate wiretaps with server hacking. They're 2 different things entirely. I'm not sure the FBI needs a warrant to hack somebody's server or somebody's email. (which would include VOIP, am I right?)

Just sayin'

King_Klonopin

(1,306 posts)
74. This is my first impression, too; his narcissism may be coming out full force.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:36 AM
Mar 2017

One would hope that the NSA, FBI and CIA were all doing something
in regards to surveillance of the Russians.

This Russian ambassador (who has been in contact with multiple
people in the Trump campaign, for some unknown reason) is
supposedly a top recruiter of spies.

I believe that our intelligence community has the goods on Donny and his
little band of traitors, and he fears it. He is either trying to preemptively
discredit the story by distorting the reality that the target of wire-tapping
was the RUSSIANS -- not him -- but he got caught in the net. The
alternative explanation is that he is truly batshit crazy, self-centered and
grandiose beyond belief.

Trump, being the great narcissist, is making this ALL ABOUT HIM.

The DOJ and FBI are probably bullshit that he is threatening to expose
these efforts in order to save his own ass.

Tanuki

(14,919 posts)
54. I think Kellyanne Conway is leaking like a sieve. There is one innocuous on-the-record
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 07:25 AM
Mar 2017

quote from her, so she obviously spoke with the reporters, amid all the rest of the anonymous material. She is well known for giving reporters lots of off-the-record background information, which is one reason why they put up with her annoying and disingenuous on-camera performance for so long. I'm wondering why she is sabotaging him....is she being vengeful at being locked out of the action and relegated to taking cell phone pictures of the key players? Or has her real boss, Robert Mercer grown tired of his pawn Trump and is preparing to remove him from the chessboard?

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
56. I invision a tiny Trump with his
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 09:00 AM
Mar 2017

hands balled up, jumping up and down yelling "I'am the president! Why won't anyone listen to me ? I am the president ! Listen to ME ! "

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
57. Has he ever heard the story of the boy who cried "wolf?"
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 09:05 AM
Mar 2017

He's a serial liar. I wouldn't believe him if he said he had poached eggs for breakfast.

 

DefenseLawyer

(11,101 posts)
60. Hopefully Sheriff Joe and his team of investigators are finished in Hawaii
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 12:14 PM
Mar 2017

They can get to the truth, once again.


Beacool

(30,250 posts)
71. Trump is known to create his own reality.
Mon Mar 6, 2017, 11:08 PM
Mar 2017

The guy is a pathological liar. He's also trying to deflect from his own problems. He doesn't want to be investigated for his, and his surrogates, close ties with the Russians.

cstanleytech

(26,306 posts)
75. You know why most of think you are lying Donnie? Because as the President you have the power
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 02:42 AM
Mar 2017

to declassify a ton of shit thats classified and you have not provided one iota of proof to support this claim of yours.
Oh I know, your response will be some bullshit that the secret shadowy Obama boogeymen you trot out destroyed it but thats bullshit to Donnie and we aint buying it though I heard the idiots over at freerepublic are lapping it up like usual but then they enjoy lapping up bullshit.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
76. Clapper's denial is slippery.
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 03:19 AM
Mar 2017
“There was no such wiretap activity mounted against the president-elect at the time as a candidate or against his campaign.”

Technically, all he is really saying is that they were not wiretapping Trump's campaign. But they certainly could have been wiretapping Citizen Trump for his contacts with a foreign government, regardless of his status as a candidate for office.

DeminPennswoods

(15,289 posts)
77. Never forget that Ruddy spent years chasing the Vince Foster story
Tue Mar 7, 2017, 07:56 AM
Mar 2017

Whenever you have the urge to think Chris Ruddy is normal or a serious person, just remember he spent years trying to prove Vince Foster was killed by the Clintons. This was his entire beat at Scaife's Pgh Tribune-Review.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»Trump is incredibly p*sse...