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guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:42 PM Mar 2017

If Trump is controlled by Putin, who is Trump's controlling agent?

Could it be someone like Steve Bannon? Or is he too much of a fascist to be trustworthy to Putin?

Could it be Mike Pence? Or does he receive his orders directly from God?

Could it be Melanija Knavs? Or Melania Trump, as she is now known?

The KGB has been known to use women to trap men before. She is from a country that was under Russian control. Is it possible that she is part of a KGB long game? Or did Putin merely see an opportunity to use her as the contact after he had financial information and blackmail on Trump?

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If Trump is controlled by Putin, who is Trump's controlling agent? (Original Post) guillaumeb Mar 2017 OP
Bannon is the Russian operative running everything liberal N proud Mar 2017 #1
I think that's the one. 2naSalit Mar 2017 #3
Michael Cohen (his lawyer)? salin Mar 2017 #2
Sez who? world wide wally Mar 2017 #34
I am guessing. But TPM has found some very interesting salin Mar 2017 #40
Bannon bravenak Mar 2017 #4
Not sure. Bannon seems too arrogant to submit to handling by Russia. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #13
Ivanka got the orders when she met Wendy last summer. dhol82 Mar 2017 #5
Kislyak, through Sessions. roamer65 Mar 2017 #6
Or, Priebus and Bannon are considering how to sell out Trump guillaumeb Mar 2017 #9
That's plausible. ananda Mar 2017 #15
Melania? Yeah, I know it's not true. But that's my little insiginficant revenge KittyWampus Mar 2017 #7
One acted like a First Lady, guillaumeb Mar 2017 #10
I think it might be. safeinOhio Mar 2017 #26
I think it's becoming clear that Trumpy is in charge of the US operation, but Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #8
Agreed. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #12
His wife. That is why she says in New York. nycbos Mar 2017 #11
If not a controller, a possible contact. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #14
She from Eastern Europe nycbos Mar 2017 #16
Her father was a Party member safeinOhio Mar 2017 #27
Sounds like something out of a spy novel nycbos Mar 2017 #33
I think she's just avoiding the abuse -nt Bradical79 Mar 2017 #20
President Bannon. nt madinmaryland Mar 2017 #17
A clear early favorite. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #18
Wow. A Repubican who actually served in the military! Whoda thunk!! nt madinmaryland Mar 2017 #23
McCain, Graham, and others. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #25
If I had to guess, I'd go with Gorka. JHan Mar 2017 #19
Sebastian Gorka? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #21
lol .. he looks like one... JHan Mar 2017 #29
Agreed. It could easily be a group effort. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #31
It's called a "handler". My money is on Jared. WheelWalker Mar 2017 #22
He is close. Possibly closer than Melanija. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #24
Without question, and compartmentalized so they probably don't know about each other. WheelWalker Mar 2017 #28
And Putin himself would be well aware of how to conduct espionage. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #30
Maybe there's no direct "controlling agent" Bradical79 Mar 2017 #32
Yeah, Brannon's name hasn't really been mentioned woodsprite Mar 2017 #35
More reason to suspect Bannon? eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #37
Maybe an alliance of convenience in his case Bradical79 Mar 2017 #39
Agreed. Destabilization is most likely the primary goal. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #36
Perhaps Marcuse Mar 2017 #38
Based on historical precedence, I would have to say Bannon and Melania world wide wally Mar 2017 #41
Boris and Natasha? eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #44
These two world wide wally Mar 2017 #47
Very silly. eom guillaumeb Mar 2017 #48
not melania but i Would like it if she left him for putin JI7 Mar 2017 #42
What a story THAT would make. guillaumeb Mar 2017 #43
Dunno, but omg can you imagine... TDale313 Mar 2017 #45
Trying to reason with an insecure lunatic? guillaumeb Mar 2017 #46

salin

(48,955 posts)
40. I am guessing. But TPM has found some very interesting
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:35 PM
Mar 2017

Ukranian connections, investments (got rich through), and the "Peace plan proposal" that was offered to Flynn to get to Trump came through Cohen with and expat Russian and the Russian sympathizing Ukranian MP who claimed that Russia had Kompromat on the sitting Ukranian Prime Minister. Josh Marshall has written quite a bit about Cohen in his editor's blog at Talkingpointsmemo.com

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
13. Not sure. Bannon seems too arrogant to submit to handling by Russia.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:51 PM
Mar 2017

He's got his own delusional nexus of evil. I think that with Bannon, interests converge, but they're separate operations.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
6. Kislyak, through Sessions.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:47 PM
Mar 2017

He is joining Dump in FL. Rinse Penis and the Grim Reaper Bannon have been left out.

Smells like it to me.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
9. Or, Priebus and Bannon are considering how to sell out Trump
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:49 PM
Mar 2017

while preserving their respective agendas.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
7. Melania? Yeah, I know it's not true. But that's my little insiginficant revenge
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:48 PM
Mar 2017

for all the garbage lobbed at the greatly esteemed Michelle Obama.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
8. I think it's becoming clear that Trumpy is in charge of the US operation, but
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:49 PM
Mar 2017

as you suggest, he's got handlers here. It could be the Russian Ambassador or one of his emissaries.

We also have to raise suspicions that the GOP Congressional leadership may be complicit. I suspect McConnell, because of he ease with which his wife slipped into a Cabinet position. Ryan is also suspect because both he and McConnell knew about the Russian interference early on but insisted on remaining quiet, and even threatened to frame the Russia/Trumpy problems on Democratic witch hunts before the election.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
12. Agreed.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:51 PM
Mar 2017

McConnell, Trump, and Comey would all be candidates. All 3 would do anything for power and all 3 put Party before country.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
14. If not a controller, a possible contact.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:53 PM
Mar 2017

Putin might have information about her as well. And the mere fact of her marrying Trump shows she will do anything for money.

JHan

(10,173 posts)
29. lol .. he looks like one...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:08 PM
Mar 2017

Tell me he don't look like he stepped off central casting in a 60's spy movie

Seriously though, there are so many tangents in this it's hard to point to a singular person.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
31. Agreed. It could easily be a group effort.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:11 PM
Mar 2017

And it could be the Russian bank money connection that Trump is obviously desperate to conceal.

WheelWalker

(8,955 posts)
28. Without question, and compartmentalized so they probably don't know about each other.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:07 PM
Mar 2017

I was reading the Aldrich Ames story this past summer. I learned a lot about how espionage is conducted. An excellent read, btw.

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
30. And Putin himself would be well aware of how to conduct espionage.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:09 PM
Mar 2017

An arrogant fool like Trump, an insecure man who is so desperate to be flattered, would present an easy target.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
32. Maybe there's no direct "controlling agent"
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:15 PM
Mar 2017

And it's more of a poorly organized comitee project with Bannon somewhat in charge. We know several of them have met with Russian spies/officials independantly, and a couple have been removed from direct access already. Could be multiple seperate deals at this point. Probably easier than trying to have one person steer someone with Trump's ego and mental instability.

Also would make some sense if destabilization is the primary goal, as a bit of chaos and idiocy would be useful.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
39. Maybe an alliance of convenience in his case
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:29 PM
Mar 2017

That weirdo has got some similiar goals to Russia as far as dismantling government and destabilization goes.

“Lenin wanted to destroy the state, and that’s my goal too. I want to bring everything crashing down, and destroy all of today’s establishment.”
- reported quote from Steve Bannon

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
36. Agreed. Destabilization is most likely the primary goal.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:23 PM
Mar 2017

Plus the instability would give Putin more ability to maneuver in Europe.

world wide wally

(21,744 posts)
41. Based on historical precedence, I would have to say Bannon and Melania
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 06:37 PM
Mar 2017
historical precedence , of course, would be Boris and Natasha
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