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Obfuscation. Look at this shiny wire tap over here. (Original Post) Lint Head Mar 2017 OP
EXACTLY!! Here's what we should be talking about: Sessions and the Russian purchase of the election. Squinch Mar 2017 #1
The wire taps are part of that . Demsrule86 Mar 2017 #6
Maybe Putin is wiretapping Trump to make sure he Lint Head Mar 2017 #2
and it's just about ALL they're talking about on cnn/msnbc Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #3
It's all part of the bigger picture, because if Trump's phones really were bugged The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2017 #4
Or... Else You Are Mad Mar 2017 #5
My opinion. If the wiretapping is true, I don't think Obama Lint Head Mar 2017 #8
I think it's more about djg21 Mar 2017 #7

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
2. Maybe Putin is wiretapping Trump to make sure he
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:12 PM
Mar 2017

keeps his agreement to destroy the American system of government.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
3. and it's just about ALL they're talking about on cnn/msnbc
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:14 PM
Mar 2017

a brief timeout for lindsay graham's disastrous town meeting, at which they just about hooted him off the stage for denying there was any evidence for subpoenaing the tax returns!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,719 posts)
4. It's all part of the bigger picture, because if Trump's phones really were bugged
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:16 PM
Mar 2017

it means the FISA court issued a warrant for the wiretap, which means the applying agency showed probable cause for the need for it. Meaning they thought conversations between someone at Trump Tower and some foreign agent raised national security/criminal concerns.

Else You Are Mad

(3,040 posts)
5. Or...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:23 PM
Mar 2017

the agency was wiretapping the Russians and Trump and his campaign was recorded speaking to Russian agents.

Either way, if true, it is obvious that a judge found that the warrant on its face showed that there was probable cause of some sort of criminal/national security concern for either Trump or Russian agents in the US.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
8. My opinion. If the wiretapping is true, I don't think Obama
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:40 PM
Mar 2017

or any President would know about it. The FBI (Justice Department) CIA have to be independent from the President. Not only to protect the integrity of an investigation but also to stay true to the separation of powers. If Trump was wiretapped it would be because there were substantial suspicion to do so. The MAFIA was wiretapped all the time and we all know some of Trump's pals are mobsters.

 

djg21

(1,803 posts)
7. I think it's more about
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:24 PM
Mar 2017

explaining the transcripts that Sen. Coons claims to exist. If there are transcripts confirming collusion between Trump or Trump's Campaign and Russia, Trump needs to do something to divert blame and attention. The Trumpanzees will buy in to this nonsense despite the fact that any wiretap would be authorized by a warrant issued after the Court was assured that probable cause existed to believe that a crime had been committed.

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