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Several Trump advisers woke up this morning surprised by the president's tweets. (Original Post) bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 OP
Combating the "deep state" means... dchill Mar 2017 #1
lol, exactly. Why didn't Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, combat the deep state? Renew Deal Mar 2017 #6
Hubs and I had a related discussion one day... Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #14
And social media is much more devious...... LisaM Mar 2017 #48
They tried to pretend they were not in Deep Shit Cryptoad Mar 2017 #38
??? truebluegreen Mar 2017 #58
That's not what I said Renew Deal Mar 2017 #59
That's why I asked. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #68
They need to read "The Devil's Chessboard" KatyMan Mar 2017 #7
I think they're too busy reading Breitbart. dchill Mar 2017 #13
Agree. This isn't any kind of corporate game KatyMan Mar 2017 #21
Bigger than Trump Steaks? dchill Mar 2017 #22
I think he means Trump Stakes trusty elf Mar 2017 #36
Oh. dchill Mar 2017 #61
problem is, they have 50+ MILLION imbeciles who believe Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #26
It's a problem for them, too. dchill Mar 2017 #29
you have much more confidence in the system/msm than I Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #32
They're already moaning on Twitter about President Obama bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #39
To paraphrase: "The greatest trick the deep state ever pulled... Beartracks Mar 2017 #40
peter dale scott....what do you think of his stuff? Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #41
I'm actually not familiar with Scott or Newman. I pulled the quote... Beartracks Mar 2017 #42
he's a historian, and the CIA/Oswald book is very very well documented Gabi Hayes Mar 2017 #44
And everyone who writes a book about the fake deep state thanks you for stevenleser Mar 2017 #49
Hitting balls? Scarsdale Mar 2017 #45
and don't forget propaganda outlet FoxNews. n/t ginnyinWI Mar 2017 #46
There is no deep state. Anyone who tells you there is, is exploiting you stevenleser Mar 2017 #23
Will the "deep state" do to Trump lapfog_1 Mar 2017 #24
Kim Jong Nam... Blanks Mar 2017 #35
Leaks are a part of every administration. They obviously get worse if the majority stevenleser Mar 2017 #53
I suspect they are less ham-handed now. truebluegreen Mar 2017 #57
Eh, let Donald be Donald. dalton99a Mar 2017 #2
I am SO down with that. dchill Mar 2017 #9
Bannon is desparate to gain control over this issue. He's probably planning on another purge. Eyeball_Kid Mar 2017 #3
Nothing is beyond the pale for this White House. dalton99a Mar 2017 #4
Wouldn't surprise me if bannon was in on planning of Ilsa Mar 2017 #17
Tiptoeing toward Howard Hughes territory underpants Mar 2017 #5
No kidding! flamingdem Mar 2017 #10
It looks like your picture is scaring your Big Bird. Cracklin Charlie Mar 2017 #16
I c what u mean! flamingdem Mar 2017 #19
Dang! 2naSalit Mar 2017 #28
Syphilitic infection of the meninges and cortex can cause paranoia dalton99a Mar 2017 #12
As can brainal hemorrhoids. NBachers Mar 2017 #43
A dysfunctional J_William_Ryan Mar 2017 #8
they really need to put his leash back on. nt msanthrope Mar 2017 #11
While they're at it... Grammy23 Mar 2017 #34
Although....come to think of it....just let him rave on because the more he tweets Grammy23 Mar 2017 #37
Yes! Loose lips sink ships and trump just proved that with his Muslim ban. hehe manicraven Mar 2017 #56
This message was self-deleted by its author KeepItReal Mar 2017 #15
His real advisers are conspiracy theorist, alt-right, cray cray talk radio/internet nutjobs- yallerdawg Mar 2017 #18
Lying to a Senate Committee malaise Mar 2017 #20
Putin Blackmail. earthside Mar 2017 #25
Simply and aptly cilla4progress Mar 2017 #27
And in part... 2naSalit Mar 2017 #30
Great observations! I don't think what you wrote is a conspiracy theory at all. manicraven Mar 2017 #62
Bannon and Priebus, headed south....in more ways than one. (nt) Paladin Mar 2017 #31
Trump is literally insane. Blue_Warrior Mar 2017 #33
This is the Sabbath, so, according to one theory, QC Mar 2017 #47
and there it is. Ligyron Mar 2017 #64
And no Bannon/Priebus around this am, sooooooo dixiegrrrrl Mar 2017 #69
Can we start referring to Bannon as, "Grima Wormtongue"? Crash2Parties Mar 2017 #50
Can I.... WomanWhoRoars Mar 2017 #51
Trump goes rogue, of course, he was tweeting from the toilet no doubt - shit from both ends......... sunonmars Mar 2017 #52
He's desperate. We need to watch out. Putin calling in chips? Tatiana Mar 2017 #54
Trump needs to go to Russia for some Turbineguy Mar 2017 #55
They weren't told of his 'plans". randome Mar 2017 #60
On a side note, you'd think he'd lose weight with all that golfing he does. ecstatic Mar 2017 #63
Or running his itty bitty thumbs NastyRiffraff Mar 2017 #65
The walking-around part of golf Nevernose Mar 2017 #70
He's so very concerned that he's golfing down in Florida. smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #66
That old Shabbot d_r Mar 2017 #67
This is particularly concerning: Amaryllis Mar 2017 #71
I agree! MelissaB Mar 2017 #73
This is freaking Delicious! Cha Mar 2017 #72
Yw- ABC News also verified this took place. bathroommonkey76 Mar 2017 #75
trump's obnoxious enough.. I can imagine him all furied Cha Mar 2017 #76
Hit A Few Balls erpowers Mar 2017 #74

Renew Deal

(81,860 posts)
6. lol, exactly. Why didn't Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush, Reagan, Carter, combat the deep state?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:26 AM
Mar 2017

Maybe the answer is that the Bush's are part of the deep state, but seriously. Those presidents were up to all kids of stuff, but no one can accuse them of being compromised by a foreign power. Money, greed, power, sure (not Obama or Carter BTW).

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
14. Hubs and I had a related discussion one day...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:36 AM
Mar 2017

He wanted to know why I thought that Obama was able to win the Presidency twice, if the contest could, seemingly, be stolen away so easily.

My answer: the difference was in who Obama ran against.

John McCain, nor Mitt Romney would EVER have teamed up with Putin to win an election.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
48. And social media is much more devious......
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:28 PM
Mar 2017

Fake news was one more thing she had to fight (and she still got millions more votes).

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
38. They tried to pretend they were not in Deep Shit
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:25 PM
Mar 2017

Trump knows that will not work,,,,, they put on the Deep Shit Camouflage and hide in the Deep Shit.

KatyMan

(4,191 posts)
7. They need to read "The Devil's Chessboard"
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:29 AM
Mar 2017

For a clue as to how the "deep state" operates. They're not nice people.

dchill

(38,502 posts)
13. I think they're too busy reading Breitbart.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:35 AM
Mar 2017

Or, in Bannon's case, writing it. Imagine a failed businessman/reality TV star and a right-wing hack taking on the entrenched IC/PTB. I think they are overestimating their abilities. To say the LEAST.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
26. problem is, they have 50+ MILLION imbeciles who believe
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:03 PM
Mar 2017
everything they say, no matter the demonstrable reality in contradiction
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
32. you have much more confidence in the system/msm than I
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:10 PM
Mar 2017

look how GWB skated through 8 years of elections/constant lies/war crimes/destruction, etc. without getting his hair mussed, compared to what happened to WJC.......

it's SAD!

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
40. To paraphrase: "The greatest trick the deep state ever pulled...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:35 PM
Mar 2017

... was convincing the world it didn't exist."

=================================

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
41. peter dale scott....what do you think of his stuff?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:46 PM
Mar 2017

I got into it with a WGN radio host, who had some of the JFK Assassination archivists on, during which I quoted something about that perjurer Richard Helms, regarding John Newman's book about Oswald and the CIA....that's the title, actually. these guys weren't even aware of the quote, which was, IIRC, from the fly leaf of Newman's book.

http://whowhatwhy.org/2015/12/23/why-cias-richard-helms-lied-about-oswald-part-1/

not to get started on that one, cause I still don't know what to think, except so many of the principals lied their asses off

Beartracks

(12,814 posts)
42. I'm actually not familiar with Scott or Newman. I pulled the quote...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:00 PM
Mar 2017

... from memory; don't recall where I first heard it.*

But I appreciate the link. The speculation regarding the Kennedy assassination is always fascinating, and it seems obvious there was a conspiracy.

The truth is out there.



* "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was to convince the world he didn't exist."

===========================

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
44. he's a historian, and the CIA/Oswald book is very very well documented
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:07 PM
Mar 2017

I have it, and have read it a couple of times

too depressing to contemplate at this point

I'm sticking to triumph on the campaign trail vids for now

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
49. And everyone who writes a book about the fake deep state thanks you for
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:32 PM
Mar 2017

Perpetuating the nonsense, along with every president like Dumbya and Trump who want an excuse for bad acts they committed in their orders to the military and intelligence agencies.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
23. There is no deep state. Anyone who tells you there is, is exploiting you
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:49 AM
Mar 2017

one way or another. Either to get your money to buy their books or in Trumps case to try to distract you from his misdeeds.

Blanks

(4,835 posts)
35. Kim Jong Nam...
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:18 PM
Mar 2017

Putin has allegedly poisoned some folk.

Trump has to walk a line, or be Kim Jong Nam-a-Lago (my new suffix for scandals, replacing the worn out 'gate' suffix) -ed.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
53. Leaks are a part of every administration. They obviously get worse if the majority
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:36 PM
Mar 2017

of people in various parts of the executive branch, including as we have seen the last few weeks from the White House staff itself, thinks you are a terrible President doing bad things.

No deep state nonsense needs to exist for that.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
57. I suspect they are less ham-handed now.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:52 PM
Mar 2017

But it seems a reasonable guess that they are responsible for the drip drip drip of information.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,432 posts)
3. Bannon is desparate to gain control over this issue. He's probably planning on another purge.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:19 AM
Mar 2017

As a logical progression, Bannon will want physical punishment for leakers. He's not opposed to a Putin-style murder spree. He loves the Putin style of governance.

dalton99a

(81,513 posts)
4. Nothing is beyond the pale for this White House.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:23 AM
Mar 2017

Trump has mob connections. Either that or Erik Prince can work out something.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
17. Wouldn't surprise me if bannon was in on planning of
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:38 AM
Mar 2017

however Seth Rich was murdered. I mean no disrespect to Rich's family, but everyone is wondering if he was a victim of the russians.

2naSalit

(86,643 posts)
28. Dang!
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:06 PM
Mar 2017

Glad I have just finished swallowing my coffee!

We need an emoji thingy that shows one's hair being blown back as if in a stout wind.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
37. Although....come to think of it....just let him rave on because the more he tweets
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:23 PM
Mar 2017

the deeper the hole he is digging for himself. He seems to be clueless to how much he reveals when he blathers on and on. Plus, he has a known propensity for projection, so often he unwittingly gives away where we should look for his crimes by what he accuses others of doing.

So rave on, tRump. Tell us more....leaving clues like bread crumbs on the trail back to your sins.

manicraven

(901 posts)
56. Yes! Loose lips sink ships and trump just proved that with his Muslim ban. hehe
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:48 PM
Mar 2017

His own words "came back to bite him." Tweeting and blabbering also show how incompetent, stupid, and paranoid trump is.

Response to bathroommonkey76 (Original post)

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
18. His real advisers are conspiracy theorist, alt-right, cray cray talk radio/internet nutjobs-
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:40 AM
Mar 2017

those still out there that he didn't make "advisers" to the campaign, the transition team, and the present administration - and he thinks reality is a show!

If their vision of global war on Islam is completely realized - which is absolutely in process considering Yemen - the 'distractions' we recognize now will be forgotten, and we'll have the "election issues of 2016" fade away, a lesson learned from Bush after what happened in 2001 (and Reagan, after 300 marines killed and we invade Granada).

War is a reality Republicans thrive on!

earthside

(6,960 posts)
25. Putin Blackmail.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:54 AM
Mar 2017

I am not open to conspiracy theories -- give me cold, hard facts.

However, the behavior of Trump leads me to now believe that (1) Putin is in possession of highly damaging, scandalous material about Trump; (2) Russian oligarchs have their money deep in Trump, Inc., businesses.

There is a frenetic desparation in Trump's behavior.
The Costa messages show how precarious is the environment at the White House -- this kind of instability is dangerous.

manicraven

(901 posts)
62. Great observations! I don't think what you wrote is a conspiracy theory at all.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:00 PM
Mar 2017

Clearly something significant has gone down between trump and Russia.

Ligyron

(7,633 posts)
64. and there it is.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:04 PM
Mar 2017

Jared and Ivanka should convert to Reform Judaism and perhaps the country would be safer.

OTOH, the more he blabs the quicker he falls.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
69. And no Bannon/Priebus around this am, sooooooo
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:05 PM
Mar 2017

It has been reported by some leakers that there is no secure Wi-fi at Mar Lago, evrything is sent over an open internet.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
54. He's desperate. We need to watch out. Putin calling in chips?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 01:40 PM
Mar 2017

The deep government is fighting back. Obama's exit from the WH was well-played and he has generally stayed away as things have unfolded.

We have a rocky year or so ahead. But we will rid ourselves of these bastards.

ecstatic

(32,705 posts)
63. On a side note, you'd think he'd lose weight with all that golfing he does.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 02:01 PM
Mar 2017

Does he just sit in the golf cart the whole time, running his mouth?

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
70. The walking-around part of golf
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 05:11 PM
Mar 2017

Is about the only exercise in the game. Once you add a cart and a caddy, golf becomes only nominally more athletic than chess.

(Although thinking burns calories. I wonder if there's not a research study in this post...)

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
71. This is particularly concerning:
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 07:22 PM
Mar 2017

Bannon is working closely with Trump on combating what he calls the "deep state" in intel comm, per multiple people at WH

erpowers

(9,350 posts)
74. Hit A Few Balls
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:58 PM
Mar 2017

So, the guy that spent about eight years criticizing President Obama every time he left the White House, or went golfing is yet again going to play golf in Florida. President Obama really deserves a major apology from both Trump and the Republican Party. I know he will never get that apology, but he deserves that apology.

The media needs to be on Trump's butt over this vacationing/trips to Mar-A-Lago and golfing every weekend. Trump should not be able to have a press conference without being asked at least one question about his vacations and his golfing, or being asked if he will apologize to President Obama for the criticism over golfing and vacations.

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