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babylonsister

(171,066 posts)
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 08:59 AM Mar 2017

Nicholas Kristof on dt accusing Obama of wiretapping...

Nicholas Kristof
17 mins ·

President Trump has just posted a series of extraordinary tweets accusing President Obama of illegally wiretapping his phones and spying on him. The tweets seem to originate from an article he read on Breitbart. A few thoughts: 1.) The president seems to be admitting that he was the personal target of a government investigation into whether he was colluding with a hostile power; 2.) There's no illegality by the Obama administration, since any wiretaps were approved by FISA courts, or conversations were picked up by SIGINT collection. 3.)The President has access to information collected by professionals at 17 intelligence agencies, and instead he turns to nuts at Breitbart? 4.) He seems worryingly unstable. 5.) More than ever, we need an independent 9/11-style commission to investigate the ties between the Trump team and the Kremlin, for we can't have this cloud having over us for years; 6.) Defense Secretary Mattis, if you're reading this, please send SEAL Team Six into the White House to seize any device that our President can use for tweeting.
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Nicholas Kristof on dt accusing Obama of wiretapping... (Original Post) babylonsister Mar 2017 OP
A GOP legal power grab comes back to bite them in the ass! Chasstev365 Mar 2017 #1
Problem is... Chicago1980 Mar 2017 #22
I guarantee that the GOP is not going to be willing to find anything with Trump. lancelyons Mar 2017 #28
This is unbelievable. wcast Mar 2017 #2
k&r bigtree Mar 2017 #3
Take away his twitter ? nocalflea Mar 2017 #4
Leave the twitter alone! salin Mar 2017 #14
+ 1000 Submariner Mar 2017 #20
+ 1000 RKP5637 Mar 2017 #26
at least at the moment he tweets Marthe48 Mar 2017 #40
THREAD WIN!! BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2017 #57
yes oldtime dfl_er Mar 2017 #51
After how he unclassified everything via twitter, I say let him have at it. joet67 Mar 2017 #58
I agree - except for: Laf.La.Dem. Mar 2017 #5
When he's jailed, let him continue to amuse us with his tweets, as well. randome Mar 2017 #9
Tweet away...Let Him Tweet!!! Best thing 4 Dems ever! Alice11111 Mar 2017 #54
I hope that Breitbart is right watoos Mar 2017 #6
I'm sure Bannon is behind this to give DT mud to sling at Dems... bettyellen Mar 2017 #43
We really should be planting bat shit crazy rumors that people conspired against *45. Thor_MN Mar 2017 #7
one is azureblue Mar 2017 #31
And then he can get mellow like his speech from downers. I've believed for notdarkyet Mar 2017 #48
K&R mcar Mar 2017 #8
All good points except #5. Let Twitler keep on hoisting his own petard. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #10
Rumor has it... llmart Mar 2017 #13
Hmmm. That could explain a lot. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2017 #15
Hahaha! nt babylonsister Mar 2017 #16
Trust him Bob Loblaw Mar 2017 #44
"My petard hoists magnificently.... Docreed2003 Mar 2017 #55
One explanation Dorian Gray Mar 2017 #52
So true. llmart Mar 2017 #59
GOP politicians should have dis-approved of Rump when they had the chance trueblue2007 Mar 2017 #11
They must continue to believe that nocalflea Mar 2017 #12
I think it's because azureblue Mar 2017 #32
The GOP is caught in a "monkey trap" GliderGuider Mar 2017 #42
perfect eShirl Mar 2017 #45
They totally deserve Dorian Gray Mar 2017 #53
it is NOT out of their control. they form a GROUP. 5 to 10 GOPigs who say TRUMP IS A LIAR trueblue2007 Mar 2017 #60
But can this turtle snap at the hand that feeds it ? Pluvious Mar 2017 #46
Not if The Dirt is now subject to FOIA requests they wont. Volaris Mar 2017 #47
Because they are Co-conspiritors NewRedDawn Mar 2017 #17
I have said, since the R Convention, Mme. Defarge Mar 2017 #30
We're on a roll! Fritz Walter Mar 2017 #18
Whoa ananda Mar 2017 #19
Look sis - They'vebeen caught and they know it malaise Mar 2017 #21
He's the president and can know the news before Breitbart does uponit7771 Mar 2017 #23
No need for Seal Team Six pinboy3niner Mar 2017 #24
With all due respect to the Secret Service, this IS the Trump WH. How about these guys? underpants Mar 2017 #38
K&R nt ProudProgressiveNow Mar 2017 #25
He's just flinging shit at this point. smirkymonkey Mar 2017 #27
Trump is freaking out azureblue Mar 2017 #33
Tiptoeing toward Howard Hughes territory, because he's at most about 5 full footsteps away. underpants Mar 2017 #39
One of two possible soon to happen outcomes 90-percent Mar 2017 #29
We might have to storm the Bastille and set the immigrants and pot smokers notdarkyet Mar 2017 #49
Link? concreteblue Mar 2017 #34
Donnie would be insulted by Seal Team 6 cabot Mar 2017 #35
Another Sabbath meltdown More_Cowbell Mar 2017 #36
Probably having fun fucking with his head. notdarkyet Mar 2017 #50
i'm sure those 17 intelligence agencies use big words that don can't understand. spanone Mar 2017 #37
Thank Goodness Raven123 Mar 2017 #41
Well he knows much more than the intelligence agencies and generals IronLionZion Mar 2017 #56
 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
28. I guarantee that the GOP is not going to be willing to find anything with Trump.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:00 AM
Mar 2017

I guarantee that the GOP is not going to be willing to find anything with Trump.

Anything they can to continue the power they have. They just dont realize that if they continue letting Trump run amuck for another 2 years, they risk losing seats in 2018 / 2020. They could alternatively go with Pence and have the same power with smoother sailing.

But we know the GOP dont seem to use any brains.

wcast

(595 posts)
2. This is unbelievable.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:08 AM
Mar 2017

How much longer can this go on before our country cracks and there is nothing left but pieces?

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
4. Take away his twitter ?
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:13 AM
Mar 2017

He's cutting his own throat with it.His base nay be passionate-but they're not that big.He's losing the moderates.

salin

(48,955 posts)
14. Leave the twitter alone!
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:38 AM
Mar 2017

Drives me crazy - his tweets - but it gives us insight into whatever is really in his head, and into what he is reading/watching (Fox or Brietbart.) I am starting to think it is the only kind of transparency we are ever going to get from this Administration.

joet67

(624 posts)
58. After how he unclassified everything via twitter, I say let him have at it.
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 05:31 AM
Mar 2017

He has a better chance at spilling the beans on all of the rats or ensnaring them further. I want multiple indictments, myself.

Laf.La.Dem.

(2,943 posts)
5. I agree - except for:
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:16 AM
Mar 2017

"seize any device that our President can use for tweeting"

Let the fool continue tweeting!!

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
9. When he's jailed, let him continue to amuse us with his tweets, as well.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:28 AM
Mar 2017

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Precision and concision. That's the game.[/center][/font][hr]

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
54. Tweet away...Let Him Tweet!!! Best thing 4 Dems ever!
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:50 PM
Mar 2017

We have no power. The checks and balances are gone, and we have exposed a huge flaw in the Constitution.

Almost ALL his tweets have helped us. Please don't take away his tweeter. Let him keep his Android too. We will have a record. The Russians already know everything anyway because he's been so careless and clueless.

Imagine if this were Hillary. She would have already been impeached and convicted. Hypocrisy!!!🖕

 

watoos

(7,142 posts)
6. I hope that Breitbart is right
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:17 AM
Mar 2017

that means that someone has the dirt on Trump. If Breitbart is just covering for Trump and lying about the wiretap I hope it left Trump in on the subterfuge because otherwise he is probably soiling his pants about now.

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
7. We really should be planting bat shit crazy rumors that people conspired against *45.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:21 AM
Mar 2017

He is so stupid that he'd start tweeting "UNFAIR!!" about them.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
31. one is
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:23 AM
Mar 2017

He is addicted to prescription uppers. And there is some proof of this. At least, he acts like a speed freak...

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
48. And then he can get mellow like his speech from downers. I've believed for
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:23 PM
Mar 2017

A long time he's on drugs. Would like to see in his med cabinet. His dr is goofy enough to give him anything. Same with Hitler's doc. He was strung out on all kinds of stuff. Was on the history channel.

trueblue2007

(17,218 posts)
11. GOP politicians should have dis-approved of Rump when they had the chance
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:28 AM
Mar 2017

THEY ALL SAID WE DON'T WANT TRUMP when they had the chance. now GOP is sorry they allowed him to be nominated etc.
it is THEIR fault.

i can't believe the GOP LEADERSHIP ... ie RYAN Mc Connell etc are not coming out in ALL MEDIA and telling Rump to shut the hell up

i have a feeling that NOW the top gops will tell trump to leave or they will impeach him.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
32. I think it's because
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:25 AM
Mar 2017

They created this monster and it's out of their control. They have no way to contain Trump without destroying their precious political party. Their first thought is to keep in power. The two cannot coexist, but the GOP is frantically ignoring that.

 

GliderGuider

(21,088 posts)
42. The GOP is caught in a "monkey trap"
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 12:03 PM
Mar 2017

The only way they can escape is by letting go of the prize - power. Since they are psychologically unable to do that, they will stare at the onrushing danger like a deer in the headlights until they are destroyed. If you'll pardon the mixed animal metaphor..

Dorian Gray

(13,496 posts)
53. They totally deserve
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:50 PM
Mar 2017

to be destroyed here.

Any decent Republican who cares about the USA (or their own dignity) should denounce this shit-show and become a free voting independent.

trueblue2007

(17,218 posts)
60. it is NOT out of their control. they form a GROUP. 5 to 10 GOPigs who say TRUMP IS A LIAR
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 03:46 PM
Mar 2017

BAD PERSON ETC. THEY HAVE TO TELL THE TRUTH.

THEN moderate GOPs will join the group. Then some "POPULAR" DEMS JOIN. not controversail people.... folks who are likable.... to form a group of 20 people .... then more join

Trump can't fight 25 people !!!

am i too naive?

Volaris

(10,271 posts)
47. Not if The Dirt is now subject to FOIA requests they wont.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 07:34 PM
Mar 2017

They'll cut his political throat and then impeach him for being anemic before he's allowed to cost them so much as a thin nickel, let alone their House majorities.

Mme. Defarge

(8,030 posts)
30. I have said, since the R Convention,
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:07 AM
Mar 2017

that the person responsible for this national catastrophe is Priebus. He was the one who stopped the nomination from going to the Convention floor, if I'm not mistaken.

ananda

(28,860 posts)
19. Whoa
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 09:58 AM
Mar 2017

This is strong language for a conservative who is usually an asshole.

45 read a story on Breitbart and went crazy.

Really, Kristof should be asking Mattis to put 45 in a straitjacket
and a padded cell.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
27. He's just flinging shit at this point.
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:32 AM
Mar 2017

It only shows how desperate he is. He knows there is no truth to his accusations. He's just throwing shit out there and hoping something will stick. It's the act of a weak and pathetic man.

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
33. Trump is freaking out
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:27 AM
Mar 2017

He's panicking big time-freaking out and hoping he can make enough noise to save his ass.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
29. One of two possible soon to happen outcomes
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:01 AM
Mar 2017

The Manhattan Mussolini will be led out of the White House in handcuffs or a strait jacket?

This guys enuf of a psycho to use nukes if he thinks that will give him the Dictatorship he's already halfway there on already?

His immigration policies just seem cruel and heartless and totally un-American at the core! We have probs, but we are a much more compassionate nation than this. It's the fucking oligarchs that are the concentration camp bastards doing this cruelty to people for no seeming constructive purpose other than fomenting hate? By ruining perfectly good normal American lives.

-90% Jimmy

notdarkyet

(2,226 posts)
49. We might have to storm the Bastille and set the immigrants and pot smokers
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 10:32 PM
Mar 2017

Free. I'm sure they will be ready to destroy their cockroach private prisons and fight for their children.

cabot

(724 posts)
35. Donnie would be insulted by Seal Team 6
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:33 AM
Mar 2017

He would only allow Seal Team 10 in, or Seal Team 9 in a pinch. He doesn't deal with 6s...only 10s.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
36. Another Sabbath meltdown
Sat Mar 4, 2017, 11:34 AM
Mar 2017

I believe that Jared and Ivanka are neck-deep in the collusion with Russia, so I don't feel sorry for them. But their observance of Shabbat makes things worse for Trump. Someone (I presume President Bannon) talks Trump into doing crazy things on Friday nights.

IronLionZion

(45,442 posts)
56. Well he knows much more than the intelligence agencies and generals
Sun Mar 5, 2017, 12:45 AM
Mar 2017

believe him. Breitbart knows what's up.

He should give InfoWars a press pass too to get even more of this

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