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Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 12:45 PM Mar 2017

If Sessions is saying he doesn't remember what he talked about to the

Russian Ambassador how does he know exactly what he said or that he didn't talk about the campaign? Also, it continues to be said that Senators meet with Russians all the time. Well he was being questioned to be Attorney General not a Senator. He is already a Senator. He was a surrogate to Trump when he spoke to the Russian Ambassador. He was acting as a Trump surrogate not a Senator.

I realize it's a technicality but this issue goes to intent.

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If Sessions is saying he doesn't remember what he talked about to the (Original Post) Lint Head Mar 2017 OP
if his memory is THAT bad... samnsara Mar 2017 #1
either Sessions is lying gopiscrap Mar 2017 #2
ah yes the old I don't remember CountAllVotes Mar 2017 #3
He had no business talking to the Russian Ambassador C_U_L8R Mar 2017 #4
Color me old fashioned but I think an AG ought to have a real good memory SticksnStones Mar 2017 #5
definitely Lint Head Mar 2017 #6
+1!!! logosoco Mar 2017 #10
He should check out this editorial from 10 years ago BumRushDaShow Mar 2017 #7
Dammit, we need to stop worrying about WHAT was being discussed Mr. Ected Mar 2017 #8
I think it's actually bigger than it appears PRETZEL Mar 2017 #9

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
2. either Sessions is lying
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 12:47 PM
Mar 2017

or if he doesn't remember from that short awhile ago, then he is mentally incompetent

CountAllVotes

(20,876 posts)
3. ah yes the old I don't remember
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 12:48 PM
Mar 2017

and I don't remember what I don't remember!

Resign you demented lying freak!

Do it NOW btw!



logosoco

(3,208 posts)
10. +1!!!
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:36 PM
Mar 2017

Or at least a really good ability to take notes to refer back to. And if you don't have the notes from a particular meeting....hmm.....

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
7. He should check out this editorial from 10 years ago
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:14 PM
Mar 2017

about Gonzo (that I posted here - http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=1717966)

The Opinion Pages | Op-Ed Contributor
He’s Impeachable, You Know

By FRANK BOWMAN MAY 3, 2007

Columbia, Mo.

IF Alberto Gonzales will not resign, Congress should impeach him. Article II of the Constitution grants Congress the power to impeach “the president, the vice president and all civil officers of the United States.” The phrase “civil officers” includes the members of the cabinet (one of whom, Secretary of War William Belknap, was impeached in 1876).

<...>

The right of Congress to demand explanations imposes on the president, and on inferior executive officers who speak for him, the obligation to be truthful. An attorney general called before Congress to discuss the workings of the Justice Department can claim the protection of “executive privilege” and, if challenged, can defend the (doubtful) legitimacy of such a claim in the courts. But having elected to testify, he has no right to lie, either by affirmatively misrepresenting facts or by falsely claiming not to remember events. Lying to Congress is a felony — actually three felonies: perjury, false statements and obstruction of justice.

A false claim not to remember is just as much a lie as a conscious misrepresentation of a fact one remembers well. Instances of phony forgetfulness seem to abound throughout Mr. Gonzales’s testimony, but his claim to have no memory of the November Justice department meeting at which he authorized the attorney firings [font color="red"]left even Republican stalwarts like Jeff Sessions of Alabama gaping in incredulity.[/font] The truth is almost surely that Mr. Gonzales’s forgetfulness is feigned — a calculated ploy to block legitimate Congressional inquiry into questionable decisions made by the Department of Justice, White House officials and, quite possibly, the president himself.

Even if perjury were not a felony, lying to Congress has always been understood to be an impeachable offense. As James Iredell, later a Supreme Court justice, said in 1788 during the debate over the impeachment clause, “The president must certainly be punishable for giving false information to the Senate.” The same is true of the president’s appointees.

<...>

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/03/opinion/03bowman.html

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
8. Dammit, we need to stop worrying about WHAT was being discussed
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:15 PM
Mar 2017

And focus on the perjury itself.

It's obvious and indefensible. Let the investigation into Sessions' Russian ties proceed, but hang his ass on the perjury charge.

PRETZEL

(3,245 posts)
9. I think it's actually bigger than it appears
Thu Mar 2, 2017, 02:33 PM
Mar 2017

If Sessions was acting as a surrogate for the Trump campaign and didn't disclose that on both his questionaire for AG and didn't correct the record during the comfirmation hearing than there is a strong case that he perjuried himself during those hearings.

If these meetings took place in his role as Senator and his security clearance is such that he is privvy to classified or secret intelligence and he didn't disclose these meetings then I think he is in bigger trouble.

Either way I think the dude's screwed everyway til Sunday.

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