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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTom Perez wins DNC Chair on 2nd round
Perez 235
Ellison 200
All non-Perez/Ellison votes from round one shifted to Perez.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)chillfactor
(7,584 posts)MineralMan
(146,338 posts)I'm sure he'll do an outstanding job, and will need all of our support.
George II
(67,782 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)Vinca
(50,318 posts)all of their time to the job. I hope Ellison supporters will accept the outcome. We haven't got time for infighting.
PatsFan87
(368 posts)instead of giving to the DNC so that consultants can get rich at the expense of state parties.
Not even giving the guy a chance
PatsFan87
(368 posts)Seeing some of the consultants propping him up so they could stay on the gravy train left a bad taste in my mouth. If he's serious about implementing a 50-state strategy, he's going to need to redirect that money away from the consultant class and back toward the state parties. At this point it doesn't look like he will but I hope he does.
Me.
(35,454 posts)He's only been chair for what.... 15minutes.
PatsFan87
(368 posts)advocating on Perez's behalf. If our party is going to succeed in electing Dems across the country, money will need to be redirected away from said consultants. If Perez manages to do so, good on him. There's a reason why Howard Dean supported Buttigieg and then Ellison over Perez. He knows how to implement the 50 state strategy.
Me.
(35,454 posts)Cary
(11,746 posts)Boo hoo.
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)You won't divide us.
George II
(67,782 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,937 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)....hopefully many Democrats and democrats can take the hint and follow him. I see already one prominent democrat hasn't quite done so yet.
Cary
(11,746 posts)We real Democrats always do, because we are better than our detractors want people to know.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)PatsFan87
(368 posts)Past vice-chairs didn't even know where money was being spent. Nice gesture but doesn't mean much.
msanthrope
(37,549 posts)PatsFan87
(368 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)matter the efforts of the er 'concerned'.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)interviews espousing the party's positions.
I look forward to strong leadership from both men.
George II
(67,782 posts)In some areas the vice-chair* [sic] have more influence than the chair.
*it's DEPUTY chairman, thank you.
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
Rex
(65,616 posts)nt
Cha
(297,799 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)And her staff, and her consultants, all being paid long after she quit. That's a lot of money that could have gone to state and local parties.
I wish Perez the best, but I'll focus my time and money on more localized campaigns and issues. I guess I'm still a little gun shy.
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)than nothing will.
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)I'll work on winning my state's executive positions, congress people, and GOTV efforts. I just don't have much faith in the National Party to collectively make he smartest decisions. Just the fact that Trump is in office should tell you that things at the DNC are seriously messed up (and I hope Perez can fix it)
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)to very little...we need a strong national party and a fifty state solution. We need the whole thing...we have a real chance in 18...and I hate see people still stuck in the past.
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)trueblue2007
(17,242 posts)YOU DON'T SOUND LIKE A DEM.
Me.
(35,454 posts)trueblue2007
(17,242 posts)Right now !
Me.
(35,454 posts)Cha
(297,799 posts)NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)dawg
(10,624 posts)I think he'll do a good job.
Greywing
(1,124 posts)Good Job!
and a good sign
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)proposed by Tom Perez.
mcar
(42,403 posts)Classy people.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,347 posts)Laf.La.Dem.
(2,946 posts)More votes in round two compared to round one??
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)Laf.La.Dem.
(2,946 posts)yallerdawg
(16,104 posts)Time to unite!
hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)Ellis spoke before Perez in fact...we need to go on united in our determination to wipe the stain of Trump and the sell-out GOP off of our great country.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)New Hampshire committeeman or the Montana committeewoman or the South Bend Mayor as his top deputy. He need someone that can beat the sticks and visit with all local Democratic groups, the same thing Perez should do. Our chair can't sit in Washington and meet with bigwigs.
asuhornets
(2,405 posts)elfin
(6,262 posts)Ellison stays in Congress - a STRONG voice for justice.
Wait and see if Perez too conventional, but our strength will be how effective our voices are locally.
Each district has its own weaknesses and strengths - some will positively respond to a more moderate message, others will flock to a "hot" opposition. Whatever works to regain control of Congress and the Senate.
Pragmatism to get the job done. Worry about overriding "big" philosophy later with an inclusive approach that challenges the status quo without scaring independents and previous non-voters away.
Implement a HUGE GOTV machine. Nuts and bolts. Nuts and bolts.
joshcryer
(62,277 posts)No Eight Weeks for Ellison to jump on board the Perez train.
aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)I'd like to know. .
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)The ballots are signed but I doubt the information is shared.
aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)It will tell me something about party leaders' thinking and that's valuable information.
But maybe you're right that I shouldn't expect that kind of transparency from the DNC.
randome
(34,845 posts)You want to know WHY but that's a mind-reading thing.
aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)It's not mind minding to look at behavior and try to understand that behavior.
Demsrule86
(68,715 posts)like they might get harassed in some way ...so no I hope they don't make it public...doubt they will. It is pretty clear but people Ellison and Perez will do a good job...let it go. Fight Trump.
Cha
(297,799 posts)aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)Cha
(297,799 posts)aikoaiko
(34,185 posts)Gothmog
(145,666 posts)Ellison stayed at 200 (the same as the first round) and Perez cleaned up in the second round. This is strong